TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted January 12, 2015 Author Posted January 12, 2015 We've already discussed characters like Lightwards and Sam in the secretive realm of PMs, but I'd like to ask you about one: what would Koschei the Deathless have felt, had Quota been around to torment him? Koschei. Admittedly, I hadn't thought about him in that context, but in light of certain canon events, I suppose that's an important question. Quota's influence would make Koschei even more paranoid than usual. He adopts a scorched-earth policy toward opposition—kill anyone who refuses to be enslaved and cow the slaves with brute force. Quota's powers would bring that paranoia to the forefront and Koschei would, more likely than not, kill Quota where he stood before withdrawing his healing power from everyone in his sight. Chances are he would spend a fair amount of time locked in a planning room somewhere, perhaps with Frequency, trying to determine which of his Epics was most likely to betray him. That Epic would be dead as soon as Koschei could arrange it. Actually on the topic of OP Epics would anyone object if I used Simon from the Halloween RP in Astoria? He's quite OP but also squishy since he has no defensive powers. I don't mind. 1
Edgedancer he/him Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Vis can take any amount of physical punishment, as the forcefield inside him protects him, but he is an ordinary human with regards to everything else. So still knocked around by impacts, even if it doesn´t cause injuries? I just realized. If you change one letter in Edgedancer's screen name, it's Edgedanger. I think I need more sleep because I find this far too amusing. Drats, you figured out my secret Epic identity! Now I must extermenate all of you! This is all your fault Twilyght Sans Spargel. (By the way Spargel is german for asparagus) I'm back. The solid light has no uniting substance. It's basically like if you look at the sun. A little less bright. A foot cubed carry up to 200lbs at it's maximum durability. The weight is always the same, it's a weird Epic phenomena. She can move the light with her hands and can move it with her mind, but not change its form. She does not need to be in natural light to initiate the teleportation. However, if there is absolutely zero lightwaves, she cannot teleport. However, she can summon solid light to brighten the place up. Her danger sense is like Obliteration's. However, hers is a conscious choice of what to bring with her. Her new name is Brightdeath. Her solid light is strong enough to strangle someone. Strangling you is her preferred way of killing. (she summons light around your head.) Nice name, if a bit unsubtle. So how much strenght would someone need to fight of the solid light and again could something instant like Deathpoint´s deadly pointing out-speed her danger sense. Here's the powerset for that possible new Destructor. What do you think? Epic Name: Dustmaker Human Name: Mike Duss Weakness: <PM'd to the GM> Primary Power: Disintegration. Can disintegrate any non-living thing equal to or smaller than him in size. Secondary Power: Air manipulation. He can control the winds and air around him. He uses this to fly, but it's more of the wind pushing him or the air lifting him than true flying. He also uses this to knock over structures. Passive Power: Disintegration field. Anything non-living that approaches him gets disintegrated automatically. The field is only slightly larger than his body. Sounds, well, destructive, so good job. If his disentegration has a size limit how would it interact with with larger objects like house walls also how strong are the winds he can summon? For the record, I vote we hold off on Astoria till Portland is destroyed, as originally planned. Some of us have enough trouble keeping up as it is. Which means we should hurry up and destroy Portland. So let's get that meeting moving so the MEE attacks can commence. Or we can just take our time. I'm in no rush. Fair point, anyone else that wants to hold off? Question for you all: How would Quota's powers affect your characters, bearing in mind Quota would be guessing the memories he was dredging up from that victim's emotions, taunting them all the while? And this goes together with another question: is there any character you want Quota to meet before he dies? Kill all of the Quota, is what I can say. Except maybe Voidgaze but that meeting would end up weird. I'd like to start Astoria sooner rather than later. Maybe in a couple of weeks? For everyone involved in the meeting, how does it sound if the meeting only goes a couple more posts before the MEE attack call comes in? I think Altermind just needs to give Lightwards a mobile, make a couple requests of Funtimes, and go over the basics of Project Amber. Since Electro is already going to meet him, Quota could use his powers briefly on him, which would be fun. Give Electro a bit of punishment. It would probably be better if you finish that Connell fight sidestory until then. Sounds good, I think Altermind is up next? Actually on the topic of OP Epics would anyone object if I used Simon from the Halloween RP in Astoria? He's quite OP but also squishy since he has no defensive powers. I don´t really mind but the problem with his type of character is that the first encounter would probably either end in someone loosing control over his character or Simon dead, both of which seem problematic. 3
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted January 12, 2015 Author Posted January 12, 2015 Drats, you figured out my secret Epic identity! Now I must extermenate all of you! This is all your fault Twilyght Sans Spargel. (By the way Spargel is german for asparagus) Fair point, anyone else that wants to hold off? Kill all of the Quota, is what I can say. Except maybe Voidgaze but that meeting would end up weird. Sounds good, I think Altermind is up next? Exterminate? You're an Epic Dalek? ...and now that you know about my love-it-with-garlic relationship with asparagus, I must exterminate you as well. So....happy exterminating? I'm good either way. And Epic!Dementor vs. Epic!Fluttershy would be weird. I think so. 1
Voidus Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 I don´t really mind but the problem with his type of character is that the first encounter would probably either end in someone loosing control over his character or Simon dead, both of which seem problematic. He'd be pretty secretive from most Epics, playing a more behind the scenes role with perhaps a few trusted Epic allies who know his base of operations. But for the most part he prefers just tormenting vanillas to getting into a real power struggle with Epics. Alternatively I could nerf his power in regards to Epics and give him a secondary, I'm open to input on the matter. A few alternative PIs I've been thinking of for anyone looking to create a high Epic: Historical manipulation: Can change their previous actions within a limited time limit, often results in apparent teleportation as they change a path they've walked. Limited to non-instant and escapable death scenarios, can be either insta-killed or checkmated. Essentially a limited version of Megans power, selecting from alternate versions of the self. Adaption: A fairly versatile PI whereby the users body simply adapts to it's environment, for instance by growing wings while falling, gills while drowning, photosynthesis while starving. Up to the writer how strong they want to make it, for instance the possibility of bulletproof skin. Possession: While the users body may be destroyed their mind/spirit simply migrates to a new host. Material-merging: A potential variant of both Indestructibility and intangibility, the user can take on the properties of certain materials, for instance by turning their body into mist they become relatively intangible while turning into solid steel leads to them being relatively impervious. Elastic-body: Joining the likes of Mr. Fantastic the users body may bend under impact but it won't break. The user may still be vulnerable to slashing attacks or alternative methods of destruction such as fire. 2
Edgedancer he/him Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Exterminate? You're an Epic Dalek? ...and now that you know about my love-it-with-garlic relationship with asparagus, I must exterminate you as well. So....happy exterminating? I'm good either way. And Epic!Dementor vs. Epic!Fluttershy would be weird. I think so. Yes, I have keept this a secret, because you didn´t want any aliens. Do I still get a hug? Buhahaha! Nothing can harm the Edgedanger! I´m immortal! He'd be pretty secretive from most Epics, playing a more behind the scenes role with perhaps a few trusted Epic allies who know his base of operations. But for the most part he prefers just tormenting vanillas to getting into a real power struggle with Epics. Alternatively I could nerf his power in regards to Epics and give him a secondary, I'm open to input on the matter. A few alternative PIs I've been thinking of for anyone looking to create a high Epic: Historical manipulation: Can change their previous actions within a limited time limit, often results in apparent teleportation as they change a path they've walked. Limited to non-instant and escapable death scenarios, can be either insta-killed or checkmated. Essentially a limited version of Megans power, selecting from alternate versions of the self. Adaption: A fairly versatile PI whereby the users body simply adapts to it's environment, for instance by growing wings while falling, gills while drowning, photosynthesis while starving. Up to the writer how strong they want to make it, for instance the possibility of bulletproof skin. Possession: While the users body may be destroyed their mind/spirit simply migrates to a new host. Material-merging: A potential variant of both Indestructibility and intangibility, the user can take on the properties of certain materials, for instance by turning their body into mist they become relatively intangible while turning into solid steel leads to them being relatively impervious. Elastic-body: Joining the likes of Mr. Fantastic the users body may bend under impact but it won't break. The user may still be vulnerable to slashing attacks or alternative methods of destruction such as fire. Why would he bother setting up in a new town then? Anyway, if he were to work in the background the powers of his lackes would be more important than fiddling with his own. You do know most of these aren´t actually PIs? This is something I have been thinking about for a time but why didn´t Timeport use his cutelportation and explosotation in his fight against Chi? 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted January 12, 2015 Author Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Yes, I have keept this a secret, because you didn´t want any aliens. Do I still get a hug? Buhahaha! Nothing can harm the Edgedanger! I´m immortal! Why would he bother setting up in a new town then? Anyway, if he were to work in the background the powers of his lackes would be more important than fiddling with his own. You do know most of these aren´t actually PIs? This is something I have been thinking about for a time but why didn´t Timeport use his cutelportation and explosotation in his fight against Chi? I didn't think Daleks liked hugs. O.o Well, at least this means we'll get to see loooooots more of your writing. Maybe he hadn't thought of it yet? He was sort of in the middle of his Rending, which makes his actions over the past day make a lot more sense, though it does call into question why he spared most of the Reckoners. Unless he's saving them for last. Speaking of Rendings, what on earth would Moral Guardian's Rending have looked like? Edited January 12, 2015 by TwiLyghtSansSparkles 1
Edgedancer he/him Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 I didn't think Daleks liked hugs. O.o Well, at least this means we'll get to see loooooots more of your writing. Maybe he hadn't thought of it yet? He was sort of in the middle of his Rending, which makes his actions over the past day make a lot more sense, though it does call into question why he spared most of the Reckoners. Unless he's saving them for last. Speaking of Rendings, what on earth would Moral Guardian's Rending have looked like? Thank you? Well it´s not like let them go on purpose, he was killed after all. Burning down shops that sell erotica? 1
Voidus Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Yes, I have keept this a secret, because you didn´t want any aliens. Do I still get a hug? Buhahaha! Nothing can harm the Edgedanger! I´m immortal! Why would he bother setting up in a new town then? Anyway, if he were to work in the background the powers of his lackes would be more important than fiddling with his own. You do know most of these aren´t actually PIs? This is something I have been thinking about for a time but why didn´t Timeport use his cutelportation and explosotation in his fight against Chi? Boredom? He's also a wee bit insane beyond the usual sociopathy of Epics. If I changed the power set it would be an entirely different Epic with different backstory. Not the Elastic body I'll grant but the others pretty well fit as PI's unless I've missed something?
Kobold King he/him Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Thank you? Well it´s not like let them go on purpose, he was killed after all. Burning down shops that sell erotica? I would hug a Dalek if it were okay with it. I'm tolerant of all xenophobic alien races. Timeport going through a Rending explains a lot. Also, I believe Moral Guardian broke into the homes of every married couple in his city and forced them to sleep in different bedrooms. He then found a couple who slept in the same bedroom without being married and completely blew his fuse. 2
mail-mi he/him Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Yes, I have keept this a secret, because you didn´t want any aliens. Do I still get a hug? Buhahaha! Nothing can harm the Edgedanger! I´m immortal! Why would he bother setting up in a new town then? Anyway, if he were to work in the background the powers of his lackes would be more important than fiddling with his own. You do know most of these aren´t actually PIs? This is something I have been thinking about for a time but why didn´t Timeport use his cutelportation and explosotation in his fight against Chi? He didn't think about it then. It was actually just a "happy accident" that he landed inside of the teenage boy, because he jumped a little bit into the future and he didn't know the boy would be there
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted January 12, 2015 Author Posted January 12, 2015 Thank you? Well it´s not like let them go on purpose, he was killed after all. Burning down shops that sell erotica? *hugs* It's definitely a good thing. Since you're immortal, you can keep writing forever! Good news for the rest of us. True. Maybe while putting black censor bars over the eyes of everyone at the beach? 1
Kobold King he/him Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 *hugs* It's definitely a good thing. Since you're immortal, you can keep writing forever! Good news for the rest of us. True. Maybe while putting black censor bars over the eyes of everyone at the beach? * joins group hug * It's definitely awesome! Though if you could cut the rest of us in on your Fountain of Youth secret, we'd be eternally grateful. Censor bars. Censor bars everywhere. You couldn't use the words "darn," "drat," "physical," "melon," "goat," "archipelago," "blasted," "heck," or "superfluous" without being drowned out by loud sound effects. 2
Edgedancer he/him Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Boredom? He's also a wee bit insane beyond the usual sociopathy of Epics. If I changed the power set it would be an entirely different Epic with different backstory. Not the Elastic body I'll grant but the others pretty well fit as PI's unless I've missed something? So again what kind of details are we talking about his potentiel followers or secondary? Should my understanding of the terminology be finally correct than a PI means only their weakness can kill them With the historical manipullation (as you wrote it) they still. can be either insta-killed or checkmated without their weakness. Apatation and material-merging depend on the details. *hugs* It's definitely a good thing. Since you're immortal, you can keep writing forever! Good news for the rest of us. True. Maybe while putting black censor bars over the eyes of everyone at the beach? * joins group hug * It's definitely awesome! Though if you could cut the rest of us in on your Fountain of Youth secret, we'd be eternally grateful. Censor bars. Censor bars everywhere. You couldn't use the words "darn," "drat," "physical," "melon," "goat," "archipelago," "blasted," "heck," or "superfluous" without being drowned out by loud sound effects. Haha! you have fallen for my trap now.... oh I can´t resist the hugging. There is no secret, there is only me and my imagination. Lastly he dressed up the Venus de Milo and other antic statues to avoid the nudity. Edited January 12, 2015 by Edgedancer 2
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted January 12, 2015 Author Posted January 12, 2015 Later, Moral Guardian's only regret was that Nighthound was not within range during he Rending. Others shared in this regret. 2
Kobold King he/him Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Lastly he dressed up the Venus de Milo and other antic statues to avoid the nudity. C'mon, Moral Guardian? Even by your standards the Venus de Milo's gotta be 'armless enough. (I am so sorry. ) 2
Voidus Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 So again what kind of details are we talking about his potentiel followers or secondary? Should my understanding of the terminology be finally correct than a PI means only their weakness can kill them With the historical manipullation (as you wrote it) they still. without their weakness. Apatation and material-merging depend on the details. Either, whatever people think fits the narrative and playstyle better. I unfortunately have neither my copy of Steelheart nor Firefight at the moment so this is from memory but I believe a PI protects against conventional methods of assasination, not necessarily all. I believe that both of Profs defensive powers are deemed enough to be a PI despite neither being foolproof methods even without using his weakness. Obliteration and Fortuity I believe are also said to have PIs despite both just being danger sense which is by no means absolute protection.
Edgedancer he/him Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Either, whatever people think fits the narrative and playstyle better. I unfortunately have neither my copy of Steelheart nor Firefight at the moment so this is from memory but I believe a PI protects against conventional methods of assasination, not necessarily all. I believe that both of Profs defensive powers are deemed enough to be a PI despite neither being foolproof methods even without using his weakness. Obliteration and Fortuity I believe are also said to have PIs despite both just being danger sense which is by no means absolute protection. Given that most people already appear to move in as groups (Destructors and whatever Blackwave´s crew was called) the follower option seems more suitable. I don´t have the exact quote on hand either but I do remember that in their discussion about Regalia David and Tia explained that having a defensive ability protecting against conventional methods of assasination is the definition of a high Epic and as you yourself pointed out to me, when we had a discussion about this before, not every High Epic has a PI, so your definition can´t be right without contraditions within the text. I also remember that the same discussion lead me to reread the section with Fortuity and while his precognition is stated to be what makes him a High Epic it is never refered to as a PI. That´s just a common fandom assumption.
Tulir he/him Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 So still knocked around by impacts, even if it doesn´t cause injuries? Yup. Someone could punch him, or drop him from height, and he would be no worse for wear, but if, say, someone with Hulk level strength hit him, Vis would go flying like a normal human, just not get hurt. It would annoy him greatly, though.
Voidus Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Found the quote I was looking for elsewhere: “What’s a prime invincibility?” Tia asked. “Sorry,” I said, realizing they wouldn’t know my terms. “It’s what I call an Epic power that renders conventional methods of assassination useless. You know, regeneration, impervious skin, precognition, self-reincarnation, that kind of thing.” So Precogs are definitely classed as a PI per David and it's almost word for word the same definition he gives for generic High Epics in Firefight, honestly I think it's just an example of Brandon retconning it a bit, in the same scene I believe David also says that the Reckoners always go after someone with a PI.
Edgedancer he/him Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Found the quote I was looking for elsewhere: So Precogs are definitely classed as a PI per David and it's almost word for word the same definition he gives for generic High Epics in Firefight, honestly I think it's just an example of Brandon retconning it a bit, in the same scene I believe David also says that the Reckoners always go after someone with a PI. And from the Regalia discussion we have this quote: a High Epic - which is defined as an Epic whose power them from being killed in a conventional ways. And with the quote that they only attack High Epics with PI we have a clear contradiction here, so bottom line: I don´t even care anymore.
Kobold King he/him Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Well Nighthound's in the Museum now. Can we have Wes bite off his hand? Because I think Wes should be allowed to bite off his hand. 2
Edgedancer he/him Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Well Nighthound's in the Museum now. Can we have Wes bite off his hand? Because I think Wes should be allowed to bite off his hand. I think that sounds like a fabulous idea. Sadly, given the consequences it would have to fanceptionfiction only. (A short Wes PoV would be awesome though. ) Now, given that the results of Firefight have mostly settled their waves let me ask the age old question (I finally figured it out! ) Who goes next? Edited January 12, 2015 by Edgedancer 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted January 12, 2015 Author Posted January 12, 2015 I think that sounds like a fabulous idea. Sadly, given the consequences it would have to fanceptionfiction only. (A short Wes PoV would be awesome though. ) Now, given that the results of Firefight have mostly settled their waves let me ask the age old question (I finally figured it out! ) Who goes next? He has asked the Question! The first Question! The Question at which Silence will fall! ...because I don't know who goes next. 2
Kobold King he/him Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 I think that sounds like a fabulous idea. Sadly, given the consequences it would have to fanceptionfiction only. (A short Wes PoV would be awesome though. ) Now, given that the results of Firefight have mostly settled their waves let me ask the age old question (I finally figured it out! ) Who goes next? I think I'm waiting for Mailliw to post for Altermind and Flashpoint. What are the consequences? Because Nighthound killing Wes is nothing; Lightwards would just resurrect him again once he comes back to the MoNA. A brief scuffle with Nighthound and Red on one side and Wes and Ray on the other would be awesome and free of negative consequences.
Edgedancer he/him Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 He has asked the Question! The first Question! The Question at which Silence will fall! ...because I don't know who goes next. Mmmmhhh, you or Kobold could go next as Autumn/Backtrack, not sure what you have planned for the Quota/Timeport scene and how you want to meet up with Electro. I think I'm waiting for Mailliw to post for Altermind and Flashpoint. What are the consequences? Because Nighthound killing Wes is nothing; Lightwards would just resurrect him again once he comes back to the MoNA. A brief scuffle with Nighthound and Red on one side and Wes and Ray on the other would be awesome and free of negative consequences. Assuming he finds the body. Or that Wes gets to keep his sanity, Nighthound can take control of him with a simple touch afterall.
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