Mailliw73 he/him Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Thus ended a discussion of differing religious beliefs with no hatred, insults or namecalling whatsoever. The rest of the Internet promptly exploded. Wow. That was the most level headed, rational discussion about this that I have ever seen, online or in person. I applaud you all and am once again reminded of the awesomeness that is 17th Shard.
Edgedancer he/him Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 "The Funtimes is undoubtedly one of the most bizarre lifeforms known to modern Epizoology. It is adorned with bright and glittering coloration, and is the only member of the phylum Epicozoa known to possess a sense of whimsy. It tends to surround itself with far weaker organisms such as the Nathan and the Revolution, for reasons known only to the Funtimes' strange and undocumented mind." Unrelated. I've been reading about various forms of prehistoric life again lately, in particular the Thylacoleo (marsupial lion) of Ice Age Australia. So I was wondering... ...how would Funtimes react if Lightwards added one of these to his arsenal? That ancient wombat really is cute in some strange way. She would definitely want one. Or two. She would find them cute (because look at it! it's adorable in a "this thing could totally kill you" sort of way) but after the way he's treated Nathan and Sam, she wouldn't dare take one home for fear Lightwards would order it to attack the minute her guard was down. She might, however, ask Lightwards for one in an attempt to see whether of not it would be a trap. If he agreed readily, she would assume this had occurred to him and suddenly change her mind about the whole "prehistoric kitties make great pets" thing. Actually what happened to Funtimes flying dinosaurs? Thus ended a discussion of differing religious beliefs with no hatred, insults or namecalling whatsoever. The rest of the Internet promptly exploded. Applaus! I have to say that I myself have settled on agnosticism, meaning I don´t presume to know if there´s a god or multiple or none at all and I probably won´t figure it out while I´m alive. And by now we have what? Three Epics demonsrating their power in the sky of the Dalles. 1
Voidus Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 The Dalles is certainly a lively place at the moment, with the number of different factions I think the progress towards the complete destruction of Oregon is going well.
Edgedancer he/him Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 The Dalles is certainly a lively place at the moment, with the number of different factions I think the progress towards the complete destruction of Oregon is going well. 3
Seonid he/him Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 That was an excellent, respectful discussion. Pity I caught it too late to participate, but kudos to y'all!
Voidus Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 The example I always Compare it with is chocolate. Some people prefer milk chocolate, some prefer dark and some people (though I hesitate to call them people) even prefer white chocolate. We can all be sure that we're the one who chose the right one. yet when we meet people who disagree we don't insult them or assume they're idiots, we just enjoy our own chocolate. 3
Edgedancer he/him Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Did what I think just happen actually happen? A debate that did not end in: A. Swear words. B. Insults C. Yelling. D. "I'm right, you're wrong" E. Terrible spelling F. All of the above. Because that is basically what applies to every other debate on the internet or even IRL. Yes even in real live terrible spelling while SCREAMING at each other is a thing. Then came the Epic called pronouncer and everything changed... The example I always Compare it with is chocolate. Some people prefer milk chocolate, some prefer dark and some people (though I hesitate to call them people) even prefer white chocolate. We can all be sure that we're the one who chose the right one. yet when we meet people who disagree we don't insult them or assume they're idiots, we just enjoy our own chocolate. I would not be suprised at all to see a flamewar over chocolate on the internet. 1
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted December 24, 2014 Author Posted December 24, 2014 Yes even in real live terrible spelling while SCREAMING at each other is a thing. Then came the Epic called pronouncer and everything changed... I would not be suprised at all to see a flamewar over chocolate on the internet. An Epic called Pronouncer? Voidus, make it so! I've seen some pretty stupid flame wars. I think the dumbest one I've ever seen was over actors in the first Narnia movie--whether the guy who played Peter or the guy who played Edmund was more attractive. It started out as good-natured banter between me and my friend, but then other people got involved and it turned into a flame war. Though there was also one over whether or not psychic abilities are real. That one was...odd. Seriously, though, you guys are awesome. I don't think I've ever been to a site where just mentioning origin of life theories didn't instantly devolve into the flame war to end all flame wars. 2
Edgedancer he/him Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 An Epic called Pronouncer? Voidus, make it so! I've seen some pretty stupid flame wars. I think the dumbest one I've ever seen was over actors in the first Narnia movie--whether the guy who played Peter or the guy who played Edmund was more attractive. It started out as good-natured banter between me and my friend, but then other people got involved and it turned into a flame war. Though there was also one over whether or not psychic abilities are real. That one was...odd. Seriously, though, you guys are awesome. I don't think I've ever been to a site where just mentioning origin of life theories didn't instantly devolve into the flame war to end all flame wars. Pronouncer is an Epic of mythical proportions, because no one is capable remembering their encounters with him, for the terror is simply to great. Some claim he can bend reality to the very word he speaks, others that he knows the absolute truth of our world, more believe that he can bind people to their words, burning the flesh of all those that started a flamewar. Some rare individuals say he has no powers at all but is simply so annoying and pedantic about the right pronouncination that no one wants to remember him. The truth will only be known when someone canonizes him. Just read the comments under one of Screwattack´s Death Battles or something, things can get heated there, especially after Rainbow Dash beat Starscream. (It doesn´t help that they do some questionable conditions and/or research sometimes.) Yes, yes we are. (You included of course) 2
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 I would not be suprised at all to see a flamewar over chocolate on the internet. I'm pretty sure that would just melt the Chocolate. Do we have long term plans yet for who gains control over Dalles? Or are we just winging it?
Edgedancer he/him Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) I'm pretty sure that would just melt the Chocolate. Do we have long term plans yet for who gains control over Dalles? Or are we just winging it? That´s why we can´t have nice things. We have a long term plan for everything. However, the answer to your question is still tecnically a no, because the long term plan is the destruction of Oregon... until then we are winging it. Edited December 24, 2014 by Edgedancer
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted December 24, 2014 Author Posted December 24, 2014 I'm pretty sure that would just melt the Chocolate. Do we have long term plans yet for who gains control over Dalles? Or are we just winging it? There was a plan to have Paladin set up an empire, which Lightwards takes when Paladin's death and resurrection give him a "what have I done?" moment, but I don't know if the city was decided or not.
Seonid he/him Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 I'm in favor of that motion. Consider it seconded. Emperor!Paladin has just too much nightmare fuel not to allow it to happen. Although maybe in Salem instead...time for a What Happened In Salem plan? Here's another question. Should the Ironmonger invasion happen before or after the fall of Portland?
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted December 24, 2014 Author Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) Seonid: Oh! You know what would make setting Paladin's empire in Salem a dozen times more ironic? (Than setting it in The Dalles, I mean.) There's a sidewalk mosaic downtown that says "Salem: We're speaking peace every time we say your name." If Paladin stepped across it on his way to declare himself Emperor.... Winter: I can't wait to see it! Edited December 24, 2014 by TwiLyghtSansSparkles
Edgedancer he/him Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 I'm in favor of that motion. Consider it seconded. Emperor!Paladin has just too much nightmare fuel not to allow it to happen. Although maybe in Salem instead...time for a What Happened In Salem plan? Here's another question. Should the Ironmonger invasion happen before or after the fall of Portland? Moving from Portland to Salem seems logical but I´m not sure in what kind of natural narrative flow Paladin would get there anytime soon, given that he´s bound to involve himself with the Dalles first. I still like the idea but making plans for it with a character that Calamity knows what could happen with until then is a bit hasty. I would not make anything you want to happen in forseeable time dependent on the conclusion of Portland, even if the pieces are set at this point it might still take a while until everything gets actually written. Status update on The Project (AKa animation of Portland). I have to wait for a package to arrive, make Fortuity, finish Nathan, and make the first two backdrops. Then I will be ready to start actually animating it, in case anyone was wondering how it was going. After I animate it, then comes the voice acting and tricky Editing stuff. Sounds promising.
Mailliw73 he/him Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 And by now we have what? Three Epics demonsrating their power in the sky of the Dalles. Flying pigs, colorful explosions, soon a dragon, and lightning bolts! That's what I call a light show! Status update on The Project (AKa animation of Portland). I have to wait for a package to arrive, make Fortuity, finish Nathan, and make the first two backdrops. Then I will be ready to start actually animating it, in case anyone was wondering how it was going. After I animate it, then comes the voice acting and tricky Editing stuff. What art are you using, Winter? I, for one, would like to see any art of my particular characters. But, actually, they don't interact with Nathan much, at least not until later. About the Dalles, what do you guys think if Freq actually did manage to regain control of the city for a little while? I don't think it would have to be a lot, but I think it would be interesting to have him "return the city to Koschei" and then be driven out of town or assassinated. The Deathless thing doesn't apply to him.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted December 24, 2014 Author Posted December 24, 2014 About the Dalles, what do you guys think if Freq actually did manage to regain control of the city for a little while? I don't think it would have to be a lot, but I think it would be interesting to have him "return the city to Koschei" and then be driven out of town or assassinated. The Deathless thing doesn't apply to him. It didn't apply to Koschei, either, at least when Remington was through with him. I personally like the idea, but it would have to be after the panda thing is taken care of. 2
Seonid he/him Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Moving from Portland to Salem seems logical but I´m not sure in what kind of natural narrative flow Paladin would get there anytime soon, given that he´s bound to involve himself with the Dalles first. I still like the idea but making plans for it with a character that Calamity knows what could happen with until then is a bit hasty. I would not make anything you want to happen in forseeable time dependent on the conclusion of Portland, even if the pieces are set at this point it might still take a while until everything gets actually written. Sounds promising. My thoughts were that the destruction of The Dalles would be the catalyst that drives Paladin to attempt an Empire. (Salem isn't necessarily the only place that could happen, but I think that he needs to fail hardcore at his whole 'saving people by killing Epics on his own' gig to drive him towards becoming an emperor.) Also, if I recall the conversation right, we wanted Remington to be the assassin that took down Emperor!Paladin, and then have Light!Paladin and Remington work together to bring down his old empire (now ruled by Lightwards). I think that Remington won't be coming to The Dalles until after Portland falls (or is Remington going to bug out before the Corpsemaker war? I don't know the plan there...)
Edgedancer he/him Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 My thoughts were that the destruction of The Dalles would be the catalyst that drives Paladin to attempt an Empire. (Salem isn't necessarily the only place that could happen, but I think that he needs to fail hardcore at his whole 'saving people by killing Epics on his own' gig to drive him towards becoming an emperor.) Also, if I recall the conversation right, we wanted Remington to be the assassin that took down Emperor!Paladin, and then have Light!Paladin and Remington work together to bring down his old empire (now ruled by Lightwards). I think that Remington won't be coming to The Dalles until after Portland falls (or is Remington going to bug out before the Corpsemaker war? I don't know the plan there...) Problems with plans like that is that it also means other things can not happen. For example if you need the Dalles destroyed for Paladin´s character development that also means all the attackers have to fail and none of them get to rule there, not even for a short time. Meaning in this case for example that Mailliw won´t be able to pull of his idea with Freq ruling the Dalles. What could work for both is Paladin suffering a crushing defeat and retreating to Salem to recover from it. As a christmas present you don´t have to suffer a Nighthound POV but that only helps that much I´m afraid.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted December 24, 2014 Author Posted December 24, 2014 I know Nighthound is already a creeper to end all creepers. I know he's done plenty of creepy things so far, so one more creepy thing shouldn't surprise me. I know that if you asked me why, I wouldn't be able to give an answer. But the fact he calls Ray and Red sisters just creeps me out even more. 1
Edgedancer he/him Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 I know Nighthound is already a creeper to end all creepers. I know he's done plenty of creepy things so far, so one more creepy thing shouldn't surprise me. I know that if you asked me why, I wouldn't be able to give an answer. But the fact he calls Ray and Red sisters just creeps me out even more. Yeah, I´m "surprising" myself here. The term came after I realized that Red is essentially the anti-Ray and I guess I´m a sucker for irony, even if it´s creepy.
Quiver he/him Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) So, I'm reading Portland (already finished Dalles), but happened to see the latest stuff between Nighthound and Red, and... I just wanted to compliment you too, because those interactions are so creepy and I love it. I can't wait until I get caught up. So I can see how Ray and Nighthound met. (Oh, and Twylight? I think part of the creepiness is because of how he treats them. They have collars, he treats them like a mix of pet and slave, and Nighthound wants to break Ray into being Red. That is insanely creepy, in multiple ways, and it makes me want to see more of the dynamic between Ray and Red, especially since the former hates Bighthound and is under orders not to hurt Red, while Red... doesn't. For either. The R Sisters. Shudder. I sort of want it, but still...creepy.) Edited December 24, 2014 by Quiver 3
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted December 24, 2014 Author Posted December 24, 2014 "High Epics! You're awful! "Why won't you die?" Ray sank to the floor And she tried not to cry. "There, there," said Nighthound As he sat down beside her His hand traced her cheek Like a satanic spider. "No need for theatrics. "No need for alarm. "You're my pet, aren't you? "You won't come to harm. "Well," added Nighthound, "Not after you break. "Holding me off for forever "Is your first mistake." Just as Ray thought To put a lance through his foot There was a great clatter On top of the roof. "High Epics! We have one! "Make sure he dies!" Then came a new voice: "Let's do this, you guys!" "Who are you?" said Ray When a man then appeared His hair was greying And he wore no beard. "Name's Prof," he growled With a glare at Nighthound, "Come Ab'ram! Come Cody! "Let's put him in the ground!" "Won't work," Ray sighed, As Nighthound just laughed. "You want to kill me? "You're really quite daft." "Don't steal from the Brits!" A twanging voice said "That sort of thing "Is why we want you dead!" "I thought you were Scottish?" Said Tall, Dark, and Armed "Misuse of Brit slang "Shouldn't bring you alarm." Ray had been trying To move far away But Nighthound's hand on her wrist Forced her to stay. Get on with it now! She wanted to scream But what happened next Was like a wonderful dream. (I'll post the rest later when I figure out how to narrate a fight scene in rhyming couplets. ) 2
mail-mi he/him Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 So, Twi, when are we going to do the Quota/Timeport-terrorize-the-citizens-of-Portland posts?
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted December 24, 2014 Author Posted December 24, 2014 So, I'm reading Portland (already finished Dalles), but happened to see the latest stuff between Nighthound and Red, and... I just wanted to compliment you too, because those interactions are so creepy and I love it. I can't wait until I get caught up. So I can see how Ray and Nighthound met. (Oh, and Twylight? I think part of the creepiness is because of how he treats them. They have collars, he treats them like a mix of pet and slave, and Nighthound wants to break Ray into being Red. That is insanely creepy, in multiple ways, and it makes me want to see more of the dynamic between Ray and Red, especially since the former hates Bighthound and is under orders not to hurt Red, while Red... doesn't. For either. The R Sisters. Shudder. I sort of want it, but still...creepy.) That's probably it. He's just….gah. This whole situation is so messed up. So, Twi, when are we going to do the Quota/Timeport-terrorize-the-citizens-of-Portland posts? Um…whenever. Did you want to start it off, or should I?
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