Mapping the Cosmere

[Geekritique]

Roshar looks fantastic, though I'd be interested to learn if the continent is that large. We know it is a Pangea outside of a few more islands, but that is a vast proportion of the planet, especially in context with Earth (71% water, 29% land according to Universe Today).

 

You know, I didn't even think about that.

Edit: Also on the note about the sun, I think it is wrong to say it is too young to support life (since it /is/ supporting life), it's just too young for these things to have developed naturally.

That's a good point. Will figure out a remedy.

[Pathfinder]

I forget but in the book world, who named the planet First of the Sun? Would a primitive culture necessarily know the positioning of its planet and other bodies of planets? I could see a culture's religion stating that the sun is a god that created the planet and people on it so it would not feel alone (i am dimly recalling a real world myth that runs along this thread), and so the planet and its people would be first of the sun, but not necessarily intrinsically mean it is the closet planet to the sun. The OF in First OF of the Sun is what is making me leery of assuming that it is the closest planet. Unless Brandon or some book explicitly stated it was, in which case all I stated is mute lol

[Geekritique]

I forget but in the book world, who named the planet First of the Sun? Would a primitive culture necessarily know the positioning of its planet and other bodies of planets? I could see a culture's religion stating that the sun is a god that created the planet and people on it so it would not feel alone (i am dimly recalling a real world myth that runs along this thread), and so the planet and its people would be first of the sun, but not necessarily intrinsically mean it is the closet planet to the sun. The OF in First OF of the Sun is what is making me leery of assuming that it is the closest planet. Unless Brandon or some book explicitly stated it was, in which case all I stated is mute lol

This is a sound argument. Unfortunately it hasn't been explicitly explained. Thus, most of wht I'm doing is inference.

[Pathfinder]

This is a sound argument. Unfortunately it hasn't been explicitly explained. Thus, most of wht I'm doing is inference.

True true, and I whole heartily support your endeavor. I just wasn't sure if there was a new piece of info I was missing. I have been MIA for a few weeks so have been catching up. Good luck!

[Blaze1616 he/him]

I forget but in the book world, who named the planet First of the Sun? Would a primitive culture necessarily know the positioning of its planet and other bodies of planets? I could see a culture's religion stating that the sun is a god that created the planet and people on it so it would not feel alone (i am dimly recalling a real world myth that runs along this thread), and so the planet and its people would be first of the sun, but not necessarily intrinsically mean it is the closet planet to the sun. The OF in First OF of the Sun is what is making me leery of assuming that it is the closest planet. Unless Brandon or some book explicitly stated it was, in which case all I stated is mute lol

 

The Mayans identified Mercury, Venus, and Mars. Though they did think that the planets were stars, this is actually a fact that confuses scientists, because the planets move through the sky very differently from stars, and the Mayans were able to calculate the time it takes Venus to orbit the sun (they said 584 days, actual is 583.92), as well as Mercury (117 days versus actual 116 days) and Mars (780 days versus actual 779.936 days) [source]. If the people's on First of the Sun are as astronomically aware as the Mayans, it is not unreasonable for them to have known about the other planets. As for knowing the order, if all the planets have orbits measuring longer than the First of the Sun year, it does not seem to be too much of a logical leap to conclude that you are the closest planet.

 

As for them being as astronomically aware, it would not surprise me given the reliance on the trappers like Sixth, and their heavy need of boat travel.

 

As a side note, it is interesting that the Mayans did not identify Jupiter nor Saturn.

[Geekritique]

Do we have access to any continental maps for Scadrial or the other planets (besides Roshar)? I have very limited knowledge on the majority of the world's. So unless you guys know of/have access to other general maps, I'll just be coloring in each world a different color based on my very limited knowledge of their terrains.

Is this the largest map we have from Mistborn?

Edited December 10, 2014 by Geekritique

[WeiryWriter he/him]

To my knowledge no, there are no other, currently available, maps.  That is the largest Scadrial map we have.

 

Brandon has mentioned that he recently had Isaac do a world map for Sel which will probably be in the 10th anniversary edition of Elantris coming out next year.

[Geekritique]

I've finished the general outline of my artistic rendering. I think I've included most everything. Please let me know if there is anything amiss or incorrect before I begin the coloring stage.

Having trouble loading a higher-Res shot. Oh well.

Edited December 11, 2014 by Geekritique

[RawToast225 he/him]

At a glance I couldn't see anything wrong. When you get it fully coloured scan it instead of just taking a picture. That way, we can all have a crystal clear view of it. Besides, I want to hang the thing on my wall. Fantastic work, dude.

[Geekritique]

At a glance I couldn't see anything wrong. When you get it fully coloured scan it instead of just taking a picture. That way, we can all have a crystal clear view of it. Besides, I want to hang the thing on my wall. Fantastic work, dude.

Thanks a ton man. I really appreciate it. That's the plan!

[Blaze1616 he/him]

Remember that Scadrial during the first trilogy might look drastically different than in Alloy of Law (and presumably the other two trilogies as well). We also know that Scadrial is two continents, though they are probably connected by a large, inhospitable land mass. I will reiterate the sheer size of the land masses you've drawn on both Roshar and Scadrial as probably too big, but honestly I don't care, it looks awesome.

Edited December 11, 2014 by Blaze1616

[WeiryWriter he/him]

Remember that Scadrial during the first trilogy might look drastically different than in Alloy of Law (and presumably the other two trilogies as well). We also know that Scadrial is two continents, though they are probably connected by a large, inhospitable land mass. I will reiterate the sheer size of the land masses you've drawn on both Roshar and Scadrial as probably too big, but honestly I don't care, it looks awesome.

 

Actually from what we can tell they're fairly similar, you can even tell roughly where Elendel will be located in the Final Empire map (a bit to the east of Mt Doriel).  In fact a lot of names in the Elendel basin are based on what used to be there.  Doriel (the city) is about where Mt Doriel was.  Same with the Channerel River and the Channerel Range and the Tyrian sea.

[Geekritique]

Remember that Scadrial during the first trilogy might look drastically different than in Alloy of Law (and presumably the other two trilogies as well). We also know that Scadrial is two continents, though they are probably connected by a large, inhospitable land mass. I will reiterate the sheer size of the land masses you've drawn on both Roshar and Scadrial as probably too big, but honestly I don't care, it looks awesome.

I don't have any issue with the size of Roshar. When you unroll the planet and flatten the map, it'd look pretty close to the official one. Scadrial on the other hand is a far harder one to draw. There's only the map of the one continent. I noted that in the sidelines.

[Oudeis he/him]

I do concur; when you keep in mind that we're seeing from our perspective a bit under half of the globe, Roshar's landmass is prolly pretty close to right.

[RawToast225 he/him]

Thanks a ton man. I really appreciate it. That's the plan!

No problem! To make it just a touch more professional, you might consider adding the text with a computer after the world's are drawn. Like, scan the picture without the text, then add the text with Photoshop or whatever. That would get rid of the problem of illegible or hard to read handwriting. (I'm not saying you have bad handwriting)

[Geekritique]

No problem! To make it just a touch more professional, you might consider adding the text with a computer after the world's are drawn. Like, scan the picture without the text, then add the text with Photoshop or whatever. That would get rid of the problem of illegible or hard to read handwriting. (I'm not saying you have bad handwriting)

Yeah, this may need to happen. As it is, I'm surprised the text came out as smooth as it did. (The low res shot is very choppy).

[Skantre]

damnation I have to admit even when it's not what I hoped I still pretty much want to hang it on my wall. Way to go!

[Geekritique]

damnation I have to admit even when it's not what I hoped I still pretty much want to hang it on my wall. Way to go!

Thanks for the kind words. Hoping to get this finished soon. I've started the inking process. Chose to do it by hand instead of the computer. Felt more personal, for better or worse. As per the legend, notes and names are inked in black letters. Here's an update:

[gjustice99 she/her]

Odium may be the most dangerous but Harmony is the most powerful (I figure this because he holds the power of two shards and all of the other shardholders only have one).

[Geekritique]

Odium may be the most dangerous but Harmony is the most powerful (I figure this because he holds the power of two shards and all of the other shardholders only have one).

That we know of. There are still unknown shards out there. So for now, I'll leave that bit of conjecturing out.

[Lindel he/him]

Well, we have words of Brandon that there's an argument to be made for Harmony being the most powerful thing in the Cosmere. Odium is apparently very scared of him. I'd say it's likely that Harmony is the most powerful single entity in existence. 

 

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[Geekritique]

Hey guys, I'm hoping to begin the coloring process for the planets tonight. I'm curious what you guys feel the planets look like. I've started with Taldain. Since White Sand is located there I've basically just made it a sand planet. I've attached a photo. Anyone have any idea what the surface of the planets would realistically look like?

For Roshar I'll be making it mostly barren due to the highstorms. Except for the water obviously.

I picture Braize looking like a hellish damnable place - lava canyons etc.

Ashyn barren with a few patches of green.

Sel... No clue

Yolen I picture very ice-like

First of the Sun mostly water, with islands

Nalthis??

Scadrial I'll do a mix of brown and green.

Threnody mostly green

How do you guys feel about this? I'd like as much input as you can give. Especially for Sel and Nalthis. I've not read either Elantris or Warbreaker.

Edited December 14, 2014 by Geekritique

[Argent he/him]

Sel and Scadrial are Earth-like, I believe. For Nalthis, I would try to add splashes of color whenever possible.

[Geekritique]

Sel and Scadrial are Earth-like, I believe. For Nalthis, I would try to add splashes of color whenever possible.

By splashes of color, what do you mean? Which colors would that be?

[WeiryWriter he/him]

Also Roshar is far from barren, it is full of life, it just isn't Earth-like, so I'd still expect it to be fairly green, especially in the west.