Mid-Range Game 4: The Alethi War of Unification

[Metacognition he/him]

Storm it Wilson, If you had said anything other than Officer, I would have continued to Lynch you. But I don't think we have another one of those.

 

I officially have no idea what to do now. I just went an reread all of Twei's Posts. He supported Meta's Lighteye Vote Plan early on, then he expressed Suspicion of Wilson.

 

I can confirm that we at least have another Officer if Kenara isn't lying. 

 

 I'm an Officer. I roleblocked Odysa the first cycle.

 

I was sent to clean the latrines during the first cycle and that doesn't match up with Wilson's targets. As such, we have a situation where we basically have two people claiming the same role (although one of them has yet to speak up). If Kenara is good, then it's likely that the other Officer is a Spy. Now that doesn't mean that it is another one of the known Lighteyes, it could be the Heterochromic for all we know. 

[little wilson she/her]

I can confirm that we at least have another Officer if Kenara isn't lying. 

 

I figured there was another Officer. At the beginning of the game, during one of the clarification posts, Wyrm worded one of the clarifcations as "an Officer" rather than "the Officer". Granted, that could've just been intentional vagueness so we don't know how many there are, but that's an easy thing to slip up with, especially in a clarification. And I was pretty sure there'd be two anyway.

[Kasimir he/him]

Wilson: No, I was actually addressing that question to Joe, because I would be more suspicious if you had that information during a Battle and didn't share it until way later.

 

Luckat: I placed my secret vote on Araris.

 

I'd be wary about putting too much stock on roles that have to be Spies (even though I do suspect a Messenger would be highly useful to at least one Spy Team.) I'm sure we all remember the joy of the Gunners...

[Aonar he/him]

I would, however, like to hear from Aonar. He's normally a little more active than this. I don't expect him to respond today, since he said he's got karate on Thursday, but I've noticed he checks in here pretty often throughout the day (both today and yesterday), but he never posts.

 

Sorry, again. Yesterday, nothing interesting was happening while I was around (seriously you people, what's with all the useful discussion going on either in the middle of the night or while I'm in classes?) and like I said, Thursdays are a bad night for me.

 

I had a little more time than usual today, but I spent most of it writing and researching this post. I'm really rather surprised no one has tried to extrapolate anything from the fact that Jain was a Spy.

 

 

On that note, what do we know about Jain this game?

 

Cycle 1:

Made his customary rant about being on team good, and asked a somewhat obvious clarification of the rules. With the benefit of hindsight, this post is clearly rather heavy-handed.

 

He asked for someone to come forward with a plan to prevent the Lighteye vote from being manipulated, even though it really wouldn't be a danger unless the spies were able to communicate.

 

Other than that, he didn't say anything.

 

Cycle 2:

Ranted about why the Spies could possibly have wanted to kill Ash. Came up with some rather incomplete scenarios. Seemed very confused, if not annoyed, by the fact that Ash died. (Likely that his team did not kill Ash, unless he was trying some serious reverse psychology.)

 

Not much else.

 

Cycle 3:

Really said nothing at all. Mentioned that he was having computer problems, and suggested for Odysa to lay out her arguments more clearly.

 

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There are three links I can see here. None of them are real strong, but they are there.

 

1. Jain/Meta: Jain asked for a plan to control the Lighteye vote shortly before Meta suggested his plan. Despite claiming no particular suspicion of Jain, Meta voted for him, "to ensure someone was lynched," when he was already leading the votes. This strikes me as a little out of character, and could very easily be construed as an attempt to distance himself from Jain. If Meta were Jain's partner, and Jain's team did not kill Ash, Meta's roleblocking could play in to why Ash was killed.

 

2. Jain/Wilson: Wilson and Jain were the two most vocal people about how strange Ash's death was. Not real compelling, but you'd be surprised how often little things like that point to stronger connections. She also passively suggested Jain innocence, although she never went so far as to outright defend him.

 

3: Jain/Odysa: This is probably the most tenuous connection, but given Odysa's rather strange behaviour, I think it worth exploring. Really, it's just a bit of psychology where Jain gave Odysa advice in thread to make it seem like they weren't communicating in other ways. Immediately following Jain's death, it seemed to me that Odysa became even more erratic, and a little flustered, but that might just be confirmation bias.

 

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At the moment, Wilson is fairly low on my suspicion list (bad Aonar, bad! ), if just because of how many people have been voting for her. Twei is an interesting lead, but I'd like to wait for her to defend herself before voting. Joe is getting up there in suspicions, but he's been known to go with his gut and stick to it, especially when it comes to the faster paced games, and I would like to look at Jain more closely first.

 

....I think I'd like to see what Meta thinks of the scenarios I've laid out, as his is the strongest connection I can draw.

Edited December 5, 2014 by Aonar Faileas

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Joe is getting up there in suspicions, but he's been known to go with his gut and stick to it, especially when it comes to the faster paced games.

Kal Dell Joe, your gut is a darkfriend.  You should probably put the Dragon's Fang on your gut.  

 

Anyway, yeah. I do like to do actual analysis, but I never have enough Information at the beginning of the game. I save that for the end-game.

Edited December 5, 2014 by The Only Joe

[Surgebound Rainspren he/him]

HA!

I should of guessed that Jain was evil, I guess that he was complain about being good a tad to much lately.

Oh well that means that we have one less Spy to deal with, even if he will be whingeing about this death for the next twelve weeks or so.

Sorry that i haven't been active Lately its been a hectic week.

Edited December 5, 2014 by Surgebound Rainspren

[Metacognition he/him]

Jain was only one vote ahead in the votes and all it would've taken was someone coming in late (or Jain throwing a vote on one of the other people that had only one vote) for there to be a tie. I was trying to take away that possibility so that we actually would get a lynch. Unfortunately, I was busy and forgot to remove my vote on Marand beforehand. We honestly got lucky there that it wasn't noticed until afterwards or else we could've had another day without any information to go off of. Also, considering that I spent a good chunk of the 2nd cycle trying to get people to actually vote, I wouldn't consider my voting for Jain as out of character. Heck, most games I try to encourage even a first day lynch, just for the information! 

 

Also, Tal brought up the need to come up with a plan for the lighteye vote well before Jain did, so I had already been working on the problem and trying to come up with a solution. 

 

It's a tenuous connection, at best, in my opinion, though I don't blame you for considering it. To further hopefully put your suspicions to rest, if I were Jain's 2nd, I wouldn't be the one putting in the sabotage order in the first place. For one, I'd have let Jain do the honors, since he finally was evil and he's been wanting to try his hand at it for quite awhile now. Two, I wasn't surprised at all that I was targeted by something during the first cycle, as that's fairly common. Evidentally, people like to try to figure out where I stand. I wouldn't risk us being found out so early by putting the order in myself, if I was a spy. I also wouldn't have just let him die like that when saving him would've been incredibly easy. The lighteye votes were all over the place (as Jost and Kenara were discussing before the end of the cycle) and if that wasn't a possible route to save him, as I said, I would've encouraged him to save himself by voting for someone else to tie it up. Sure, he'd likely be on the chopping block today then, but that would've meant that the good faction would've wasted not only last cycle, but this cycle as well just to get one spy, during which more people would die. 

 

So you can see, if I actually were evil, last cycle would've played out far differently, so no, I'm not Jain's 2nd. 

[little wilson she/her]

3: Jain/Odysa: This is probably the most tenuous connection, but given Odysa's rather strange behaviour, I think it worth exploring. Really, it's just a bit of psychology where Jain gave Odysa advice in thread to make it seem like they weren't communicating in other ways. Immediately following Jain's death, it seemed to me that Odysa became even more erratic, and a little flustered, but that might just be confirmation bias.

 

I actually got slightly suspicious of Jain last cycle because of this. Not because I thought he was her partner though. I thought it was because he was also a spy and he was trying to give pointers to a fellow spy, and since he had no other way to communicate, he had to do it via thread.

[twelfthrootoftwo]

First things first: I was cleaning the latrines last cycle. If Wilson hadn't stated it, I would have done so. It's important information considering the complete lack of deaths this cycle, and I'd prefer it to be public knowledge. As a Spearman, though, the roleblock had no effect. I can only guess that the lack of deaths was due to a combination of the other officer, scouts (who I expect would all have left camp to avoid the battle) and perhaps a chance kill on an Aladar spy.
 
I can't address that aspect any further, because the pieces of information involved are solid facts. What I can do is address the suspicions that led Wilson to target me.
 

[Twei]

Wilson: Something doesn't seem right about her. It seems almost like every second post she's reminding us that she's innocent, that she's using a more active playstyle, or that she's a scary Eliminator. It feels like she's trying to compensate for the (re)new(ed) wariness from LG9 by playing noticeably differently. That might be trying to avoid a lynch as a loyal scribe, or it could be trying to seem helpful and trustworthy as a spy. Or hint to the other spies.

[Wilson]

I'm now actively looking at wording and any possible attempt at manipulation. And let me tell you something: your post just red-flagged you. You're not high on my suspect list, but you're on there.

 

The only time I've deliberately attempted to manipulate (which, in the context of an elimination game, I consider to be attempting to alter the opinions and behaviour of others beyond a goal of self-preservation) would be the beginning of LG7, and that backfired hard. I'm a terrible manipulator. If I say something, it's something I believe, stated in the most natural way at the time. That's true here. If that draws your suspicion, there's not really much I can do.
 

 [regarding Odysa]

And that tells me that your teammate definitely isn't Meta, Aonar, Maill, or Joe. None of them would encourage you to respond like that when I'm zeroed in on you. So it could be someone brand new, but I don't think it is. I think it's someone who's played a few games but hasn't played many with me. Nor have they really watched many games with me, so they don't know what advice to give you when I'm accusing you. Which mostly just leaves Newan and Twei, although technically Jasnah, Rainspren, and Macen could be on that short list too. I'm leaning more toward Twei than Newan right now, although it could be him. His post exonerating me reads slightly as if he's toying with me.

 
If I push this too hard, I'm going to be accused of trying to feed suggestions to a spy. Suffice to say: if I had been advising Odysa at the time, I would have suggested she reference this post. Given how that discussion turned out, it probably wouldn't have been an ideal move, but it's a detail that I would have suggested.
 
Finally, in case I'm right in thinking my activity level is suspicious: while uni is finished for the year, I've gone straight into what are essentially two part-time jobs. The result is that in the evening I have three pages of posts to attempt to digest in one go, in turn resulting in me either picking out tiny details or posting on gut feeling.

 

To be honest, I'm not a bad target for a lynch. I don't have a role, and I can't see myself suddenly becoming more active. I'll leave that for the rest of you to decide. I've lost most of the suspicion I had for Wilson, for revealing her role to offer information valuable to the villagers, but beyond that I don't really have anything constructive to add.

 

Edit:

I'll wait until Twei gets on to defend herself before I decide to test your claim.

Twei is an interesting lead, but I'd like to wait for her to defend herself before voting.

It's appreciated   

Edited December 5, 2014 by twelfthrootoftwo

[Macen he/him]

Meta. I did find it a bit suspicious that you threw the last vote on Jain for the same reasons Aonar stated. That being said, I thought about doing it too, but you beat me to the punch - so I can understand your defense and agree with it.

My biggest question to you comes from this:

 

H-How did no one die? Weren't we suppose to be able to tell if the Surgeon or Guardsmen saved someone? Did the spies just never put in their orders? Are we really that lucky? What is going on here?!? 

 

On the bright side, good call Jost. That's one down!

It may have just been a bad choice of phrases. Or, maybe a Freudian slip?

What about this cycle WASN'T on the bright side? Everything went pretty well for us, and went very poorly for the spies.

That just seems like a very terrible, or telling, choice of words.


OOC: I will be on a bit during the day today, but we have my work Christmas party tonight. A party at which 20-30 of us manage to rack up a $3-4k bar tab. So... I probably won't be on much tomorrow morning either (cycle ends at 2pm my time).

*EDIT* The quote disappeared right before I hit submit... words were still there, but no quote box?

Edited December 5, 2014 by Macen

[little wilson she/her]

Twei. For now.

 

I'm hoping the other Officer will step forward to say who they blocked, because that person could be a spy. The only reason I can think of that they wouldn't in this case is if the other Officer is also a spy. Which means that, if one of the teams did target an Aladar spy, both teams (assuming there's just two) know who's on the other team (although Vamah's team only knows one of the people on the Aladar team). Granted, the team with the Officer wouldn't be certain that the person they targeted is the Aladar spy, since they could also be a scout who left, but they'd still be unlikely to reveal themselves on the off-chance the person is a spy.

[Kasimir he/him]

Odysa, this isn't the first time you've just (helpfully) posted nothing more than an exclamation mark. Care to explain?

[little wilson she/her]

We have a lack of kills from the spies this cycle. Most of the lighteyes have responded, saying they didn't skip battle. Therefore, the lack can only be from either targeting an Aladar spy, a scout, or the Officer's roleblocking. This is why I stepped forward in the first place. I thought there was a good chance Twei was a spy. After her response, it doesn't appear that's so. However, we know there's another Officer out there, since Meta got roleblocked on the first cycle. If the Officer is Dalinar-aligned, they'll step forward to help us out, because their target is either a scout or a spy. And if they're a scout, I'm pretty sure a Shardblade won't kill them if they're out scouting, but we can ask Wyrm to confirm that.

 

If the Officer is aligned to a different highprince, they're unlikely to step forward, since the person they targeted is, once again, either a scout or a spy, and on the off-chance the person is the spy, I highly doubt they'll want to kill him.

 

As for the other part I said. If this happened along with a targeting of an Aladar spy, assuming there are only two teams of spies, they know who's on the other team. They don't know for certain that the person they targeted is a spy, but they'll have a pretty good idea (particular the last person on the Vamah team), and they can use that to their advantage.

 

EDIT: Actually. That doesn't work. There'd have to be three teams for that to work. Let me work this out on paper first.

[Kasimir he/him]

Fair warning: this is highly speculative, as I don't have enough information, and I'm trying to piece possibilities together from what we know. If you hate speculation, don't read on.

Here, Jain brings up the fact that Ash died and that people like Meta aren't dead as explananda and says:

a) A/Both member/s in the Spy Team that were responsible for the kill had some kind of grudge against Ash.

B ) The two Spies in the Spy Team that were responsible for Ash's death were rather wildcard, if not new to this game.



c) The Spy Team that were responsible for Ash's death are trolling us.

I'm leaning towards the third possibility, since Ash hasn't gained a rivalry or grudge I know of.

Taking the thread of a discussion in a slightly different direction, as Meta isn't yet online to respond, I've gone over what Jain said again, because I admit that it seems the pattern of the Spies remains the same: Meta was not targeted. We know there was no Surgeon/Guardsman action. That's one. Second, we know that Meta is either not a Scout, or (inclusive-or), he did not use his ability to leave camp. Which means that unless Wilson and the other Officer (assuming the truth is being told here), were ridiculously lucky in their ah, introducing people to the latrines, it seems that we have some reason to think that the Spies are obviously continuing to play the strategies previously discussed. (There's more that could be said here, but that requires a deeper analysis than I can supply at this hour.)

What I wanted to draw attention to is the fact that Eliminator analysis, for obvious reasons, usually attempts to misdirect. Jain put a lot of emphasis on Option 3, which is understandable: he possibly wanted to point us at typical trolling players (Wilson and Aonar?) and I'm more inclined to think that he wanted to seem as though he was doing some analysis without telling us anything informative about what the teams were doing. I suspect it might have been his own team's idea: he might not have been so reticent if speculating about the strategies of other spies. (In which case, we might wonder if the kill directed at Aladar's spies from Jain's team--two assumptions; that the kill hit Aladar's spies and that there are only two Eliminator teams, as I choose not to presume the existence of more teams unless there is the suggestion--indicates to us that at least one of Aladar's spies fits the profile of kills that Jain's team seemed to be going after.) That he suggested a wildcard/new option or a grudge option in the first place though, makes me wonder if it might help for us to look in the other direction when trying to locate the surviving member of Jain's team.

 

Edit: Actually, forget it. Just ignore everything please :/ I keep forgetting that assessing motivations is not my strong suit and I'm better off sticking to what I'm better at. So. Data.

Edited December 5, 2014 by Kasimir

[Macen he/him]

I've been thinking a lot about the situation as well. I'm wondering what the most likely reasons the spies didn't get kills are. The obvious ones are what Wilson has posted, but I thought of a few "less" obvious reasons.

1. Both members of one of the spy teams were under scrutiny and were worried they would be watched, so chose not to kill, figuring the other two teams would each kill one person?

2. Seeing as how we still have no CONCRETE idea on how many spy teams there are. Perhaps one of the spy teams (or more than one?) decided not to sabotage this last round to throw us off on how many teams there are.

Just two out other ideas on what happened. I think the second one is slightly more likely than the first. Jain and his partner would have just had Jain submit the orders if he was going to die anyways, right? He couldn't be role blocked anyways. So, for them I think the best bet is they hit a Scout/Aladar spy.

Wyrm: For some reason I had in my head that scouts left 1 cycle, and came back during the next one. I thought that meant that if they were gone for a cycle and the next cycle was a Highstorm, they would get caught in the Highstorm and die. I have NO Idea where I got this in my head from, but I was like - oh rust, we are going to lose some scouts.

 

[Kasimir he/him]

If we work from the assumption that all Spy Teams got in their kills (Macen has pointed out where that might not be warranted) :

1. 2 Officer role-blocks [Assumes that Meta is truthful: I consider the Odysa-Twei-Wilson consistency to be indicative that particular assumption is less flaky than the Meta one.]
2. x number of Scouts went out of camp. [No idea how many Scouts there are, frankly. I'd guess 1-3, and that's just a blind shot in the dark.]
3. 2 Aladar spies are not valid targets. [Assumes that there is a team of Aladar spies. Spies may belong to a different Highprince and Aladar may be an invalid team.]
4. Any number of Lighteyes skipped the battle. [Assumes that the Lighteyes are being truthful in saying they did not skip--would they admit to doing so, even if they did? To admit they've used their free ticket out of combat is to basically admit that they're now killable. If a Lighteyes felt they had reason to use their battle skip, I doubt they'd feel they have reason to admit it. Especially if there are still Lighteyed Spies.]

These are pretty much the only ways to end up with the results we now have.

To further explain 1.: Very simply, we have two claims of an Officer role-block. First, Wilson claimed to have role-blocked Twei, and Twei has supported that claim. Unless Wilson and Twei are both Spies on the same team, it's pretty hard to see how collusion could create that result. Not to mention they would be drawing an immediate link between the two of them should one be discovered to be a Spy. Ditto for the claim on Odysa, which actually carries heavy evidential weight to me because Wilson isn't a Messenger (necessarily so) and couldn't have colluded. So I think we have some reason to think that Twei was genuinely role-blocked by Wilson.

So, moving on. The weaker claim, as I see it, by which I mean less robust, is the claim by Meta to have been role-blocked. Now, it looks like he's been genuinely role-blocked, because he mentioned an interestingly specific detail--being sent to clean the latrines. And while Twei's claim is temporally after Meta's, it seems to me we have some independent reason to think that Wilson was telling the truth. As a result, it seems that Meta's claim about being role-blocked--especially since it supplies a relevant detail echoed by Twei--appears to be genuine. So the question is more of how accurate the two officers were in their role-blocking. Joining in the appeal for our other officer to shed some light on this.

2. Can't say more about this: if an Eliminator was a Scout, then they did not make a kill, so their partner must have. Furthermore, we know that three or possibly four people can't be Scouts and can't have been protected as their votes stood. It seems at least that Reihmer and Alinel weren't Scouts--but the latter may especially fit the target profile of Team Vamah.

3. I feel like I need to point this out anyway. Don't forget that the Spies don't know if the person they hit was a Scout, or just someone from Team Aladar. Contacting them is a risk in that regard. So maybe we've been a bit too pessimistic here. But more importantly, it seems to me that it's a bit of an assumption that a Team Aladar actually exists. I wouldn't put it past King to confuse us with one or two additional Highprinces, just to make it harder for us to guess the number of teams actually in the game. All the same, I do feel as though it is likely that a Team Aladar exists; we just can't ignore the real possibility that they don't.

4. Really? We don't have reason to distrust what the Lighteyes say but I don't think that translates into reason to trust what the Lighteyes say. As Luckat noted, it seems as though there are (on the surface of it) compelling reasons to suppose they might've asked out of the battle. I grant there are good reasons not to have used that ability as well. But consider: even further--why should we presume that the Lighteyes are truthful in this regard when they surely have every incentive to obfuscate things so it is unclear if they're actually vulnerable to a kill?

[little wilson she/her]

So, moving on. The weaker claim, as I see it, by which I mean less robust, is the claim by Meta to have been role-blocked. Now, it looks like he's been genuinely role-blocked, because he mentioned an interestingly specific detail--being sent to clean the latrines. And while Twei's claim is temporally after Meta's, it seems to me we have some independent reason to think that Wilson was telling the truth. As a result, it seems that Meta's claim about being role-blocked--especially since it supplies a relevant detail echoed by Twei--appears to be genuine. So the question is more of how accurate the two officers were in their role-blocking. Joining in the appeal for our other officer to shed some light on this.

 

Not that I don't believe Meta's claim (because I do), but this seems to base a lot on the fact that he couldn't have known that cleaning latrines was the task since Twei hadn't posted. However, Odysa had already said that she'd cleaned the latrines. So if he were trying to pull one over on us, he had the information necessary to do so. I don't think he did, but it is possible.

[Wyrmhero he/him]

Wyrm: For some reason I had in my head that scouts left 1 cycle, and came back during the next one. I thought that meant that if they were gone for a cycle and the next cycle was a Highstorm, they would get caught in the Highstorm and die. I have NO Idea where I got this in my head from, but I was like - oh rust, we are going to lose some scouts.

 

Yeah, I don't know where you got that from either... And Wilson's correct, if a Scout uses their ability they can't be targeted by anyone else (other than Officers), so yes, they can survived being targeted by a Shardblade kill.

[little wilson she/her]

Yeah, I don't know where you got that from either... And Wilson's correct, if a Scout uses their ability they can't be targeted by anyone else (other than Officers), so yes, they can survived being targeted by a Shardblade kill.

 

Excellent. Even more reason for the other Officer to step forward if they're Dalinar-aligned and tell us who they targeted. If the person is a scout, they'll leave next cycle since it's even numbered. Both me and the other Officer won't target the player, but luckat can go after them. If they're a spy, they'll die (unless there's a surgeon or guardsman in their ranks, but then we'll know that and have a lynch target for the next cycle). If they're a scout, they won't.

[Macen he/him]

Wilson:
 

• Surgeons [Lighteyes] can choose another player each cycle, and that player will be saved if they die via a lynch or combat (but not by Shardblade).

• Guardsmen [Darkeyes] can choose another player to protect each combat. If that player would die in the battle, they will survive instead. This does not protect from Shardblades, but does protect from a lynch. After the Guardsman protects a player, they are injured and cannot protect another person this game.

Just thought I would clarify that for you. Shardblades are weapon x.

Unless I didn't get the meaning of your post... which is very possible (I didn't sleep well last night, my brain isn't working right).

Edited December 5, 2014 by Macen

[little wilson she/her]

Wilson:

 

Just thought I would clarify that for you. Shardblades are weapon x.

Unless I didn't get the meaning of your post... which is very possible (I didn't sleep well last night, my brain isn't working right).

 

..... *facepalm* You're right. If they're a spy, they're dead. No matter what.

[little wilson she/her]

I'm back. So, we don't have any leads, besides Meta. The only thing that would have let him claim that he was roleblocked was in one of my posts. If there's a decent reason to trust him, I'll withdraw the vote. If not, I'll keep it as it is. 

 

Unless he was actually role-blocked, which is a very real possibility when it comes to him. This is why I'm choosing to believe his claim. It could be a lie. But it's more likely for it to be true.

[Renegade he/him]

Well, I finally have some more time to play, so here's some more awful poetry.

 

Reihmer looked over his ketek-format notes of the darkeyes and lighteyes in his area of the warcamp.  Next to Jain, he wrote: Storming “swordsman” spy for Vamah; for spying, swords storm!

 

Reihmer nodded and looked over the accounts of each of the darkeyes.  Newan stood out to him the most.  The man was reportedly an Envisager.  In that case, after all of these weeks, how could he possibly still be alive?  Something was fishy in this camp, and it was most certainly not a fish.

 

My vote to Newan, to voting mine.
NOOOOOO’s” too many, I notice.  Noticing me, many too “NOOOOOO’s”.
Convenient complaining, of past betrayals means little; meaning betrayal, past of complaining conveniently.
Not seeing points against Odysa, against points, see?  Not
Pointed out much, either.  Much out pointing.

 

My vote’s for Newan.
I noticed that he’s said “NOOOOOOOO” quite a bit.
(Note: This isn’t actually a point against you, but what’s about? )

Newan, you’ve complained about being useless because of the Eliminator betrayal in QF 2, but I think that you’re a better player than you’re letting on.
Also, I’m not sure I understand your points against Odysa in your vote, as she’s always been talkative.
You haven’t been pointed out much by any players, so I’m doing some pointing.

[Newan he/him]

Well, I finally have some more time to play, so here's some more awful poetry.

 

Reihmer looked over his ketek-format notes of the darkeyes and lighteyes in his area of the warcamp.  Next to Jain, he wrote: Storming “swordsman” spy for Vamah; for spying, swords storm!

 

Reihmer nodded and looked over the accounts of each of the darkeyes.  Newan stood out to him the most.  The man was reportedly an Envisager.  In that case, after all of these weeks, how could he possibly still be alive?  Something was fishy in this camp, and it was most certainly not a fish.

 

My vote to Newan, to voting mine.

NOOOOOO’s” too many, I notice.  Noticing me, many too “NOOOOOO’s”.

Convenient complaining, of past betrayals means little; meaning betrayal, past of complaining conveniently.

Not seeing points against Odysa, against points, see?  Not

Pointed out much, either.  Much out pointing.

 

My vote’s for Newan.

I noticed that he’s said “NOOOOOOOO” quite a bit.

(Note: This isn’t actually a point against you, but what’s about? )

Newan, you’ve complained about being useless because of the Eliminator betrayal in QF 2, but I think that you’re a better player than you’re letting on.

Also, I’m not sure I understand your points against Odysa in your vote, as she’s always been talkative.

You haven’t been pointed out much by any players, so I’m doing some pointing.

 

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I say no when people say they suspect me, because I'm not bad.  

Plus, it's fun.

Thanks! 

Yeah.  I guess it's more of a gut feeling vote than anything.  Mostly, I just wanted to choose somebody who seemed at least slightly suspicious and vote for them, because I haven't voted yet this game and I didn't want to be that guy.  

Points accepted.

[Mckeedee123 he/him]

Given that Jost was the one to call down the balefire and confirm Jain's lynch, I'm going to take my vote off him (I mostly wanted to hear his logic anyway), and I'm going to put a vote on Mek because I'd like something more solid than RP that isn't directed towards anything going on. I guess if King isn't going to lead the Wyrm Inquisition, then I'll see what I can do.

 

"I'd like something more solid than RP that isn't directed towards anything going on"

 

Sitting in his tent, Mek sorted through Kaddar's words. "RP that isn't directed towards anything going on"? Of course I don't do that!

 

Do I?

 

Mek thought back to his posts. First, he had written something about training with a half-hearted poke at Reihmer. His second post had been something random about marching, then his third was a little skirmish. Absolutely nothing about the spies. I'm really losing my relevance here. Or perhaps... perhaps I never had any.

 

I should probably do something useful, or at least something that appears useful.

 

Kaddar's words still stung.

 

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Okay, I'm looking through the initial thread and I think that Winter Cloud had a suspicious little exchange with Lightsworn at the beginning of the game where she playfully poked at him, so as lame of a reason as that is, I'm putting my money on her being on the same spy team.

 

(And yes, I did just respond to a criticism of my contentless RP's with another contentless RP. I know you're jealous)    

Edited December 6, 2014 by mckeedee123