LG112 - Pseudocycle One: Closed For Minor Restructuring

[Myst He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

I’ll go first

I’m a Villager

Okay so as it turns out I cannot edit the spreadsheet on my phone but I am voting Araris and I will note it down when I get home

Wait what? Explanation?

Evinir Cragborn stepped through the Perpendicularity, and joined the arriving crowd. A cloak obscuring his features, he blended into the mass and moved as quickly as he could to exit the station.

The entire trip from Silverlight, he had worried they were after him. But no. It seemed his secret remained. That was good. He had hidden it for centuries.

He could hide it a while longer.

Evinir left the station, and began to wander the streets. As he walked out into the light of the sun, he closed his eyes, and brushed the flowers at his side with the tips of his fingers. With his Life Sense, granted by the many Breaths he had accumulated over the years - the same Breaths that kept him alive - he reached out and Felt each one, Felt them reach out a little as he neared.

Oh, how painful this perfection was.

His eyes opened again.

The monsters that had destroyed Silverlight might not have been after him in specific, but they still loomed. And like it or not, Evinir was one of the few in the Cosmere capable of standing up to them. His old mentor had made sure of that.

Evinir took a deep breath, and brushed the flowers one last time. Then he resumed his quick pace, and began to search for somewhere he could work from.

Killing off villagers takes longer. There’s at least 13-14. And people are gonna die anyways. And this is the most reversible. Again, killing off 4-5 Elims isn’t too hard if they all come forward 

[|TJ| he/him]

Myst is super village if elims bet on village victory. Myst is super evil if elims bet on elim victory :P. 

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

7 minutes ago, Myst said:

Killing off villagers takes longer. There’s at least 13-14. And people are gonna die anyways. And this is the most reversible. Again, killing off 4-5 Elims isn’t too hard if they all come forward 

Ohhhhh

Wait I’m sorry I just actually understood your point

I need to think about that a bit, cause it does feel somewhat odd

It also does feel to me as ruining the mystery of the game, a little, but I will acknowledge that I myself have been an advocate for systematic - if not very fun - strategies in the past

26 minutes ago, Myst said:

If we do do that I suggest killing off villagers, if I’m right, we’re making progress, and if I’m not we have the most time to course correct.

That said, this only works if everyone agrees with this

Okay wait nvm I’m still confused

You want to kill confirmed villagers until someone resists?

Edited May 27 by Hoid Slayer

[|TJ| he/him]

Also, I will say here that there little downside to voting out players in pseudogame whom you suspect in meta-game because you are reducing their voting power in the pseudo-game if you are right. At least makes sense in the beginning stages of the game where we have little idea where they have placed their bets. 

Having said that, mippo 

I do think there are instances where you are overplaying your cluelessness. 

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, |TJ| said:

Myst is super village if elims bet on village victory. Myst is super evil if elims bet on elim victory :P. 

Or I’m just wrong lol

But betting on a village victory allows for Elim on Elim betrayal. What player wouldn’t want to do that? It’d be so fun. Like, I’d be fine being on the receiving end of that

2 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Ohhhhh

Wait I’m sorry I just actually understood your point

I need to think about that a bit, cause it does feel somewhat odd

It also does feel to me as ruining the mystery of the game, a little, but I will acknowledge that I myself have been an advocate for systematic - if not very fun - strategies in the past

It isn’t very fun, yes, which is the one downside IMO(the FFA game recently was another example of this) 

10 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Okay wait nvm I’m still confused

You want to kill confirmed villagers until someone resists?

Sort of?

This would require us to claim alignments, and then we know who’s Elim and who’s village and then we look at all the villagers, see who we’re most suspicious of in the meta game and exe them, or if we aren’t sure, an inactive player 

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

13 minutes ago, Myst said:

Or I’m just wrong lol

But betting on a village victory allows for Elim on Elim betrayal. What player wouldn’t want to do that? It’d be so fun. Like, I’d be fine being on the receiving end of that

It isn’t very fun, yes, which is the one downside IMO(the FFA game recently was another example of this) 

Sort of?

This would require us to claim alignments, and then we know who’s Elim and who’s village and then we look at all the villagers, see who we’re most suspicious of in the meta game and exe them, or if we aren’t sure, an inactive player 

Okay, now I’ve finally got it

I’m gonna say I’m opposed to the idea, just cause I feel like it’s more fun to treat this like a regular game, at least for now

[___ He/Him]

38 minutes ago, Myst said:

If we do do that I suggest killing off villagers, if I’m right, we’re making progress, and if I’m not we have the most time to course correct.

That said, this only works if everyone agrees with this

Yeah I agree

12 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

Also, I will say here that there little downside to voting out players in pseudogame whom you suspect in meta-game because you are reducing their voting power in the pseudo-game if you are right. At least makes sense in the beginning stages of the game where we have little idea where they have placed their bets. 

Having said that, mippo 

I do think there are instances where you are overplaying your cluelessness. 

Mann I thought we were friends

11 minutes ago, Myst said:

Sort of?

This would require us to claim alignments, and then we know who’s Elim and who’s village and then we look at all the villagers, see who we’re most suspicious of in the meta game and exe them, or if we aren’t sure, an inactive player 

Only problem is this would require an immense amount of trust, and someone's bound to lie

Just now, Hoid Slayer said:

Okay, now I’ve finally got it

I’m gonna say I’m opposed to the idea, just cause I feel like it’s more fun to treat this like a regular game, at least for now

This... seems like the wrong way to look at it

If we just play like the normal game, then we have practically no control over the betting situation 

[Myst He/Him]

2 minutes ago, ___ said:

Yeah I agree

Mann I thought we were friends

Only problem is this would require an immense amount of trust, and someone's bound to lie

Uh huh, but unless all the pseudo Elims are also meta Elims, they’ll know the truth, and they can counter claim, and then we’ll know one of the two are meta Elims, and there’s at least 3 pseudo Elims who will contest the lie

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

28 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

I’ll go first

I’m a Villager

Okay so as it turns out I cannot edit the spreadsheet on my phone but I am voting Araris and I will note it down when I get home

Wait what? Explanation?

Evinir Cragborn stepped through the Perpendicularity, and joined the arriving crowd. A cloak obscuring his features, he blended into the mass and moved as quickly as he could to exit the station.

The entire trip from Silverlight, he had worried they were after him. But no. It seemed his secret remained. That was good. He had hidden it for centuries.

He could hide it a while longer.

Evinir left the station, and began to wander the streets. As he walked out into the light of the sun, he closed his eyes, and brushed the flowers at his side with the tips of his fingers. With his Life Sense, granted by the many Breaths he had accumulated over the years - the same Breaths that kept him alive - he reached out and Felt each one, Felt them reach out a little as he neared.

Oh, how painful this perfection was.

His eyes opened again.

The monsters that had destroyed Silverlight might not have been after him in specific, but they still loomed. And like it or not, Evinir was one of the few in the Cosmere capable of standing up to them. His old mentor had made sure of that.

Evinir took a deep breath, and brushed the flowers one last time. Then he resumed his quick pace, and began to search for somewhere he could work from.

Ahh I get

I feel like we should at least pay this game the respect of some facsimile of reality, however, rather than just systematically getting rid of players until the meta elims are forced to do something about it

You should be able to edit the Vote Sheet if you download Google Sheets, unless something else is going on in which case we can work with you 

[Myst He/Him]

4 minutes ago, ___ said:

This... seems like the wrong way to look at it

If we just play like the normal game, then we have practically no control over the betting situation 

He’s not wrong though, it’d make the pseudo game a lot less fun to play. 

[___ He/Him]

4 minutes ago, Myst said:

Uh huh, but unless all the pseudo Elims are also meta Elims, they’ll know the truth, and they can counter claim, and then we’ll know one of the two are meta Elims, and there’s at least 3 pseudo Elims who will contest the lie

Oh right duh

1 minute ago, Myst said:

He’s not wrong though, it’d make the pseudo game a lot less fun to play. 

That's true

Anyway I gtg

See y'all later

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

Who is Chaos? Is it THE CHAOS?

41 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

I feel like we should at least pay this game the respect of some facsimile of reality, however, rather than just systematically getting rid of players until the meta elims are forced to do something about it

I feel like Hoid Slayer is supporting this strategy because it seems like it favors the outside (meta?) elim team. That being said, I still don't fully understand the rules, so if @Hoid Slayer can explain their reasoning, I'll listen.

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

13 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said:

You should be able to edit the Vote Sheet if you download Google Sheets, unless something else is going on in which case we can work with you 

Nahh there’s no real problem it’s just I need parental approval to download apps on my phone and it’s something of a hassle

18 minutes ago, ___ said:

This... seems like the wrong way to look at it

If we just play like the normal game, then we have practically no control over the betting situation 

I feel like our control over the betting situation is low no matter what, even the strategy of systematic murder only works if at some point we get together to debate whether or not to continue with the course or not, and at that point there are bound to be disagreements even between meta-villagers

It’s a small sacrifice to be made I believe for the fun of getting to functionally play two games

Speaking of actually playing the game, should we start building trains?

1 minute ago, Through the Living Hopper said:

Who is Chaos? Is it THE CHAOS?

I feel like Hoid Slayer is supporting this strategy because it seems like it favors the outside (meta?) elim team. That being said, I still don't fully understand the rules, so if @Hoid Slayer can explain their reasoning, I'll listen.

Damn, bro read my mind

About starting trains, not about accusing me

My reasoning is that yeah, it does kinda favor the meta elims, but I’m willing to give them a little bit of favor cause I think it’s gonna be a lot funner if we don’t all completely give up on the illusion of this game from the start

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Speaking of actually playing the game, should we start building trains?

I’ve already changed my vote twice

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

Hey GMs, @The Unknown Medallion@Through the living Wahr I have a question

Will the result of the pseudocycle exe be revealed at the start of the next metacycle or the next pseudocycle?

1 minute ago, Myst said:

I’ve already changed my vote twice

Love to see it

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

Duhgg stepped out of Shadesmar and onto the surface.

It felt good to be on solid dirt again. 

"Time to start the killing!" He said cheerfully to his comrades.

To me it seems we should start Shardworld-claiming so that there are no surprises. That way, we can keep track of who has how much Investiture.

7 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

My reasoning is that yeah, it does kinda favor the meta elims, but I’m willing to give them a little bit of favor cause I think it’s gonna be a lot funner if we don’t all completely give up on the illusion of this game from the start

Part of the fun of this game is playing it in this context, because we never get to play like this. I see your point, but...eh

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

1 minute ago, Through the Living Hopper said:

To me it seems we should start Shardworld-claiming so that there are no surprises. That way, we can keep track of who has how much Investiture.

9 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Interesting plan

I’ll have to think about it for a second, but I think I’m good with that

[Myst He/Him]

Just now, Through the Living Hopper said:

Duhgg stepped out of Shadesmar and onto the surface.

It felt good to be on solid dirt again. 

"Time to start the killing!" He said cheerfully to his comrades.

To me it seems we should start Shardworld-claiming so that there are no surprises. That way, we can keep track of who has how much Investiture.

Part of the fun of this game is playing it in this context, because we never get to play like this. I see your point, but...eh

If we’re going to do a group claim. In order to make sure it’s at least some fun, we should only claim one thing. Either shard worlds or alignments or whatever, just not both

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

3 minutes ago, Myst said:

If we’re going to do a group claim. In order to make sure it’s at least some fun, we should only claim one thing. Either shard worlds or alignments or whatever, just not both

I am in favor of Shard Worlds over alignments

[Myst He/Him]

Just now, Hoid Slayer said:

I am in favor of Shard Worlds over alignments

As am I.

All in favor of shardworlds?

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Myst said:

As am I.

All in favor of shardworlds?

 

[Qianweilian He/him]

42 minutes ago, Myst said:

As am I.

All in favor of shardworlds?

Isn't this kinda pointless though, because of docs?

[Myst He/Him]

Just now, Qianweilian said:

Isn't this kinda pointless though, because of docs?

That only lets you know who’s in yours

[Qianweilian He/him]

1 minute ago, Myst said:

That only lets you know who’s in yours

Oh yeah. Fair. Couldn't someone technically put a false name on their doc?

This might help actually then!

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, Qianweilian said:

Oh yeah. Fair. Couldn't someone technically put a false name on their doc?

This might help actually then!

Technically yes but I believe that’s frowned upon. What could also happen is someone missing the link at the bottom of their GM PM and not go in the doc.

*cough* cause that totally didn’t happen to someone in my shardworld *cough*