Superweapon to destroy the entire Cosmere!

[Fizz9]

Before we start: WHAT I HAVE & HAVEN'T READ TO AVOID SPOILERS - I HAVE NOT READ WIND AND TRUTH, ONLY 1-4 STORMLIGHT & MISTBORN 1. ALL I KNOW OF MAGIC IS FROM THE COPPERMIND, IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CHECK OUT MY INTRO POST.

 

Alrighty then, first off lets assume that you have infinite investiture because this is going to need a STORMING lot of investiture.

Take a super large ball of steel (don't ask where I got that), like moon sized ball of steel. Now use a LOT of breaths, like a LOT. Awaken it with the command "Use Feruchemy and Allomancy to create spin using the steel ball." Now you somehow forge a connection to the infinite investiture you have, as well as somehow (not quite sure how you would do this, any thoughts?) use connection to enable it to use Feruchemy and Allomancy. Now it should start using the speed it can (theoretically) infinitely gain to make the steel ball spin. It will (eventually) become almost as fast as the speed of light. Now you just fire small ball of anything into it, and... 

Spoiler

BOOM!

Any thoughts? Any ways this won't work (it almost definitely won't), and how to fix this? This is my first post (besides intro post), so I hope this is all good. Thanks!

Edited April 6 by Fizz9

[Through The Living Grub He/Him]

14 minutes ago, Fizz9 said:

Before we start: SPOILERS - I HAVE NOT READ WIND AND TRUTH, ONLY 1-4 STORMLIGHT & MISTBORN 1. ALL I KNOW OF MAGIC IS FROM THE COPPERMIND, IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CHECK OUT MY INTRO POST.

 

Alrighty then, first off lets assume that you have infinite investiture because this is going to need a STORMING lot of investiture.

Take a super large ball of steel (don't ask where I got that), like moon sized ball of steel. Now use a LOT of breaths, like a LOT. Awaken it with the command "Use Feruchemy and Allomancy to create spin using the steel ball." Now you somehow forge a connection to the infinite investiture you have, as well as somehow (not quite sure how you would do this, any thoughts?) use connection to enable it to use Feruchemy and Allomancy. Now it should start using the speed it can (theoretically) infinitely gain to make the steel ball spin. It will (eventually) become almost as fast as the speed of light. Now you just fire small ball of anything into it, and... 

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BOOM!

Any thoughts? Any ways this won't work (it almost definitely won't), and how to fix this? This is my first post (besides intro post), so I hope this is all good. Thanks!

If I understand this correctly, you want to make a big ball spin really fast then shoot it and make it blow up? 

Awakening steel is really difficult, especially something very different from a humanoid shape. Actually getting the ball is easy, because you can soulcast something else.

Can you explain how the explosion works? I’m not sure how this would produce the desired effect.

[Fizz9]

6 minutes ago, Through The Living Grub said:

If I understand this correctly, you want to make a big ball spin really fast then shoot it and make it blow up? 

Awakening steel is really difficult, especially something very different from a humanoid shape. Actually getting the ball is easy, because you can soulcast something else.

Can you explain how the explosion works? I’m not sure how this would produce the desired effect.

Well if you get something to go fast enough, any difference in it's spin should release even a bit of this energy (it being hit by somthing), then all this build up massive amount of energy is suddenly unleashed. Going BOOM. I least this is how I understand it.

 

I believe this effect could also be used to shove the steel ball into a planet and blow it up (ball is going really fast)

Edited April 6 by Fizz9

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

41 minutes ago, Fizz9 said:

Before we start: WHAT I HAVE & HAVEN'T READ TO AVOID SPOILERS - I HAVE NOT READ WIND AND TRUTH, ONLY 1-4 STORMLIGHT & MISTBORN 1. ALL I KNOW OF MAGIC IS FROM THE COPPERMIND, IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CHECK OUT MY INTRO POST.

 

Alrighty then, first off lets assume that you have infinite investiture because this is going to need a STORMING lot of investiture.

Take a super large ball of steel (don't ask where I got that), like moon sized ball of steel. Now use a LOT of breaths, like a LOT. Awaken it with the command "Use Feruchemy and Allomancy to create spin using the steel ball." Now you somehow forge a connection to the infinite investiture you have, as well as somehow (not quite sure how you would do this, any thoughts?) use connection to enable it to use Feruchemy and Allomancy. Now it should start using the speed it can (theoretically) infinitely gain to make the steel ball spin. It will (eventually) become almost as fast as the speed of light. Now you just fire small ball of anything into it, and... 

  Hide contents

BOOM!

Any thoughts? Any ways this won't work (it almost definitely won't), and how to fix this? This is my first post (besides intro post), so I hope this is all good. Thanks!

Could you make this happen in a vacuum (which is where you have to build it)? I don’t think Breath motion works this way...

[Fizz9]

1 minute ago, Through the Living Hopper said:

Could you make this happen in a vacuum (which is where you have to build it)?

Well I hope so, otherwise It just might blow up in while building it.

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Fizz9 said:

Well I hope so, otherwise It just might blow up in while building it.

Also, what's the tensile strength of steel? At what point would this just spin itself into another—admittedly still deadly—superweapon of shrapnel?

Edited April 6 by Through the Living Hopper

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

Well, since steel is about twice the density of the moon, a moon-sized steel ball would be about twice the mass, and exert significant gravitational pull, messing up the orbit of whatever planet you build it around, as well as any natural moons. 

It doesn't need to spin; build it the wrong way, and roche limits will tear it apart and molten steel will rain down onto the planet it's built around. 

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

2 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren said:

Well, since steel is about twice the density of the moon, a moon-sized steel ball would be about twice the mass, and exert significant gravitational pull, messing up the orbit of whatever planet you build it around, as well as any natural moons. 

It doesn't need to spin; build it the wrong way, and roche limits will tear it apart and molten steel will rain down onto the planet it's built around. 

I was assuming that it was done in space, if it's near a planet and it's not at 1st cosmic velocity, it will fall and probably destroy the planet.

Edited April 6 by Through the Living Hopper

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

Just now, Through the Living Hopper said:

I was assuming that it was done in space, if it's near a planet and it's not at 2nd cosmic velocity, it will fall and probably destroy the planet.

Yeah, but it won't fall intact

It'll be ripped apart first by the planet's gravity, though it'll probably rip part of the planet too due to the insane density

In fact, if there were no planet in the area, the steel would most likely stratify into an iron core and carbon crust+mantle, the core most likely being liquid for some time because of the pressure.

Now this is giving me ideas for a steel planet...

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

15 minutes ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren said:

Now this is giving me ideas for a steel planet...

I like your thinking...

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

5 minutes ago, Through the Living Hopper said:

I like your thinking...

There would a layer of pure diamond beneath the surface, which later would give way to molten, then liquid steel before a liquid iron outer core and a solid iron inner core

The density would be waaay higher than any known planet, and the surface gravity would instantly turn humans into slime...

[Fizz9]

10 hours ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren said:

The density would be waaay higher than any known planet, and the surface gravity would instantly turn humans into slime...

So nothing could go wrong.

[alder24]

12 hours ago, Fizz9 said:

Before we start: WHAT I HAVE & HAVEN'T READ TO AVOID SPOILERS - I HAVE NOT READ WIND AND TRUTH, ONLY 1-4 STORMLIGHT & MISTBORN 1. ALL I KNOW OF MAGIC IS FROM THE COPPERMIND, IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CHECK OUT MY INTRO POST.

 

Alrighty then, first off lets assume that you have infinite investiture because this is going to need a STORMING lot of investiture.

Take a super large ball of steel (don't ask where I got that), like moon sized ball of steel. Now use a LOT of breaths, like a LOT. Awaken it with the command "Use Feruchemy and Allomancy to create spin using the steel ball." Now you somehow forge a connection to the infinite investiture you have, as well as somehow (not quite sure how you would do this, any thoughts?) use connection to enable it to use Feruchemy and Allomancy. Now it should start using the speed it can (theoretically) infinitely gain to make the steel ball spin. It will (eventually) become almost as fast as the speed of light. Now you just fire small ball of anything into it, and... 

  Reveal hidden contents

BOOM!

Any thoughts? Any ways this won't work (it almost definitely won't), and how to fix this? This is my first post (besides intro post), so I hope this is all good. Thanks!

Won't work. A steel ball has no means of inducing a spin on its own, even if it could somehow use Allomancy and Feruchemy and was Awakened. It's a solid and stiff object, it can't move on it's own - just look at Nightblood. And even if it somehow were to start spinning, it wouldn't be that destructive compared to other forces at play in Cosmere, not to mention it would just break apart after reaching a certain angular speed, without destroying anything nearby, at most showering nearby planets with debris.

If you have access to almost infinite investiture, you can just vaporize entire planets at will, you can basically play with worlds like Rashek and Vin did during their Ascension. There are invested arts way more powerful than Metallic Arts. Microkinesis in particular is extremely dangerous, capable of causing fusion and fission events and it was used to disastrous consequences on Yolen. Dawnshards can destroy planets too - Ashyn is a prime example of it. A moon-sized spinning ball of steel is not that impressive and it's overly complicated. If you can create such an amount of steel out of nowhere (investiture), why not create anit-matter or anti-investiture and annihilate if you really, really, really want to make an explosion?

[Fizz9]

Yeah I knew this probably wouldn't work. I was hoping though...