Not (Always) Getting Mention Notifications?

[Usseewa ✾ She♡Her ✾]

So, people have @'d me in a few times recently, but either I didn't get a notification for it or I somehow missed it.

Someone helped me test this and now I got a notification for their mention of me, but not other times?

Maybe it has to do with how the mention was made? Like one time it was a mention after a quote, and the notif said "<user> quoted you in ____" instead of mentioning. Also, I remember in status updates I'd get two notifications- one for "replied to the status update" and another for the mention. So... yeah. I also didn't get a notification when someone edited a post to mention me.

So, what's going on here? I don't want to keep missing when people mention me!

[Chaos he/him]

I don't think editing in a mention has ever pinged anyone. So that is likely the thing. 

[Usseewa ✾ She♡Her ✾]

Hmm okay.

I've done it before and I think it's worked, though of course I don't know since I'm not the other person.

Also, if so then I'd have to let Treamayne know to update the Sharder FAQ:

Quote

Likes, Mentions and Quotes should all send an alert to the appropriate person (if they have that turned on) - even when added to an old post through the Edit feature.

 

also I'm in the process of investigating this if you still care about it (it happened recently)

https://www.17thshard.com/forums/topic/200570-weird-text-box-but-only-on-one-forum/

2 minutes ago, Chaos said:

I don't think editing in a mention has ever pinged anyone. So that is likely the thing. 

Edited April 4 by Usseewa

[Chaos he/him]

...Would you like to provide any context as to how it happened, who was involved, etc. on that? That might be helpful...

[Usseewa ✾ She♡Her ✾]

9 minutes ago, Chaos said:

...Would you like to provide any context as to how it happened, who was involved, etc. on that? That might be helpful...

The (lack of) mention notifications?

 

https://www.17thshard.com/forums/topic/93183-sharder-one-liners/page/145/#findComment-2053725

Spoiler

 

And this: https://www.17thshard.com/forums/topic/199428-autismneurodivergence-club/page/6/#findComment-2053671

 

I think that's both, maybe there were others.

I noticed that both had a quote and then mention, so maybe that combo just pings for quote?

 

Or did you mean the weird editor bar?

 

@Chaos does this ping you?

Edited April 4 by Usseewa

[Chaos he/him]

The editor bar. And no, I did not get pinged for that. That's the explanation  

[Usseewa ✾ She♡Her ✾]

56 minutes ago, Chaos said:

The editor bar. And no, I did not get pinged for that. That's the explanation  

Ah yes, so it's in this blog entry by our friend Will.

As for what I found out so far (had to stop cuz life doesn't always let you waste hours looking through HTML)

(Beware that I may sound like an idiot since I'm probably not as knowledgeable in IPS and the Shard as you)

It seems like one/the problem (or a "symptom") is that it somehow is using the Moono CKEditor "skin"/addon, which is why it looks like that. It also appears to load (or somewhat load?) the regular IPS "skin," but that gets overridden or something.

Spoiler

In a normal page, it'll just merge to "skins/ips" and then have some files.

If you look in the network tab, you can see that both config and editor.css files are loaded (one of each per skin).

Also, the console gives a warnin' about the IPS skin:

Spoiler

Plus, there's a whole CKE at the end of the document body:

Spoiler

Also the HTML is just different in the "weird" page (mainly just extra Moono script/link tags, but also that weird style)

Spoiler

...and...... not sure if this affects anything (probably not) but it seems like "it" has automatic ID numbering, so since there's that extra CKE at the bottom, when the new one gets added, all the element IDs are shifted (cke_1 becomes cke_2, etc.) I initially thought that was the problem, and like it was just an alternate style, but then it's IDs not classes.. and as I looked more into it and found that weird CKE, I realized that didn't make sense haha.

(Future-me edit: actually, they do have numbered classes, but that's probably just to group everything. So not relevant likely. They also have the base "cke" class [no numbering])

 

So, also as you can see above the Moono editor.css link isn't preload (which admittedly I don't know too much about), which to me makes it seem like it's put there by something different than the regular IPS skin?

 

Also for some reason when I was looking at this all earlier, there were two HTML source files, the regular and one with ?_fromLogin=1 appended to the URL. Could've been something on my end, since I had been logging out and in and whatnot (if you must know why, I'll tell you. But it's nothing "bad.")

Spoiler

(Now there's only one)

I didn't get the chance to see if the two were different at all. Not sure if it's related or not.

 

Also (and I may be misinterpreting this), but all the weird Moono stuff ain't when you view the source (not sure if that specific link format works outside Chrome or not), which means it was added after the page loaded? So, like maybe a script or a setting somewhere or something server-side or whatever.

 

Uhh what else..

why are you tracking our mouse movement/clicks

Bot detection or "analytics"?

(All the "ct" mouse stuff, like window.ctMouseData. At least that's what it looks like it's doing lol.)

 

Oh yeah, I hypothesized that it was somehow because I had an attachment posted there, then later deleted it (inside the spoilertag), but then I saw another post (albeit not a blog) with a removed attachment (also within a spoilertag), and the editor looked normal *shrug*

 

Going back to a previous screenshot of the skins folder, it seems like that icons image (the green one) isn't there anymore? That probably isn't relevant tbh but:

Spoiler

 

Uhhh lol by unhiding the extra CKE, you can get some... weird effects:

Spoiler

It puts the editor where Will was quoting me, and lets me change the format lol.

Also... apparently the Moono one has font options shown in the toolbar? Or only for that one. Yeah... I can even type there. I doubt it saves obviously

Spoiler

(Sorry, just me having fun hehe)

Oh lol:

Guess that's why?

 

Anyway uhm.. sorry for the long post I just didn't want my hour or two or three to go to complete waste hehe. Even if you know everything there already or it's not very helpful...

 

Spoiler

(ignore this, I guess I had an extra attachment somewhere but I don't have time to lookthrough all 10 or so to find which)

 

Edited April 4 by Usseewa

[Chaos he/him]

Oh, I have no idea what's going on and that well goes over my head completely, but I can send it to Paleo. Ultimately it's probably a "will this even matter with the software update" but hey.