Akimikoisthecutest Posted June 12 Posted June 12 *sigh* Does anyone else have a problem with wearing shorts? I think it's because I haven't shaved my legs....
Aeoryi she/her Posted June 12 Posted June 12 3 hours ago, Akimikoisthecutest said: *sigh* Does anyone else have a problem with wearing shorts? I think it's because I haven't shaved my legs.... I do not wear shorts because I shave my legs and I don't want other people to notice
Usseewa ⟠SheâĄThey ⟠Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 23 hours ago, Akimikoisthecutest said: *sigh* Does anyone else have a problem with wearing shorts? I think it's because I haven't shaved my legs.... I used to detest wearing them, but did so reluctantly when necessary. I don't remember when the last time I wore them was, before I started wearing them again like a week ago. Honestly I can't just go around in a hoodie and long pants when it's hot summer... I think I didn't like wearing them because of unshaved legs, yes. And/or the type of shorts (the ones I had were more... masculine.) Now, I shaved my legs and am wearing shorts! Still a bit uncomfortable but for the most part I love them 1
Akimikoisthecutest Posted June 15 Posted June 15 On 6/13/2026 at 2:03 PM, Usseewa said: I used to detest wearing them, but did so reluctantly when necessary. I don't remember when the last time I wore them was, before I started wearing them again like a week ago. Honestly I can't just go around in a hoodie and long pants when it's hot summer... I think I didn't like wearing them because of unshaved legs, yes. And/or the type of shorts (the ones I had were more... masculine.) Now, I shaved my legs and am wearing shorts! Still a bit uncomfortable but for the most part I love them Nice! On 6/12/2026 at 5:44 PM, Aeoryi said: I do not wear shorts because I shave my legs and I don't want other people to notice Fair. I don't shave my legs but I really want to....
Aeoryi she/her Posted June 15 Posted June 15 43 minutes ago, Akimikoisthecutest said: Nice! Fair. I don't shave my legs but I really want to.... Then you should! 2
Akimikoisthecutest Posted June 15 Posted June 15 13 hours ago, Aeoryi said: Then you should! I don't think that I could.... First, I couldn't get away with it because everyone around me would notice... Second, I would absolutely be subjected to a lot of questions if I did get caught.
Aeoryi she/her Posted June 15 Posted June 15 20 minutes ago, Akimikoisthecutest said: I don't think that I could.... First, I couldn't get away with it because everyone around me would notice... Second, I would absolutely be subjected to a lot of questions if I did get caught. mmmm people tend not to notice small things like that. especially if you're younger. Â 1
Usseewa ⟠SheâĄThey ⟠Posted June 23 Author Posted June 23 ok so.. its been like what a month or so sonce I started hrt? and oh ado please help i cant tell if its doing me good or not or if its good or bad or i like it etc or not ... i cant tell how i feel about the minimal-but-noticeable-for-me breast growth (basically the only change I've noticed, that's easy to notice without overthinking). Why do I sometimes feel panic from it? Why haven't i really been able/allowed myself to cry recently? Sometimes tears almost arrive but i shove them down. Sometimes I like the idea of guys or being one and other times i look in the mirror like "omg yay im a girl !!" sometimes i just fear i like one gender or the other (not in terms of sexuality. Well... that too but that's another topic i think) but like if hrt isnt for me it hopefully isnt too late but id need to know you know? and how do i know if it is? 2
Aeoryi she/her Posted Monday at 06:35 AM Posted Monday at 06:35 AM On 6/22/2026 at 6:34 PM, Usseewa said: ok so.. its been like what a month or so sonce I started hrt? and oh ado please help i cant tell if its doing me good or not or if its good or bad or i like it etc or not ... i cant tell how i feel about the minimal-but-noticeable-for-me breast growth (basically the only change I've noticed, that's easy to notice without overthinking). Why do I sometimes feel panic from it? Why haven't i really been able/allowed myself to cry recently? Sometimes tears almost arrive but i shove them down. Sometimes I like the idea of guys or being one and other times i look in the mirror like "omg yay im a girl !!" sometimes i just fear i like one gender or the other (not in terms of sexuality. Well... that too but that's another topic i think) but like if hrt isnt for me it hopefully isnt too late but id need to know you know? and how do i know if it is? well this is something you should talk to a professional or your HRT provider about. It's not too late to stop, and given the description of changes if you chose to stop you'd likely not have many permanent changes it's important you be transparent with some person, whether that be a therapist or a endocrinologist, because they can help you figure out whether continuing HRT is the right decision for you or not.Â
Usseewa ⟠SheâĄThey ⟠Posted Monday at 06:57 PM Author Posted Monday at 06:57 PM 12 hours ago, Aeoryi said: well this is something you should talk to a professional or your HRT provider about. It's not too late to stop, and given the description of changes if you chose to stop you'd likely not have many permanent changes it's important you be transparent with some person, whether that be a therapist or a endocrinologist, because they can help you figure out whether continuing HRT is the right decision for you or not. im scared about what I am, cuz I don't know. ive been thinking about it more, lately. kinda. thinking about what i might be. and i dont know. i dont know what i want, or what makes me happy or sad or anything. i guess the only thing is lately ive been very sad and/or angry. i dont know who i want to be besides not me. i dont want to not want hrt though.. cuz ugh cuz what if that meand im not trans when i thought thats what i was and then what am i? 1
Aeoryi she/her Posted Monday at 08:03 PM Posted Monday at 08:03 PM 1 hour ago, Usseewa said: im scared about what I am, cuz I don't know. ive been thinking about it more, lately. kinda. thinking about what i might be. and i dont know. i dont know what i want, or what makes me happy or sad or anything. i guess the only thing is lately ive been very sad and/or angry. i dont know who i want to be besides not me. i dont want to not want hrt though.. cuz ugh cuz what if that meand im not trans when i thought thats what i was and then what am i? I understand not wanting to not want hrt. but it isn't a rite of passage for being trans in any way. I know trans people who've never taken hrt over the course of their transition and I know trans people who were taking hrt who stopped because it didn't feel right for them Ultimately hrt is just a tool that if you don't want you can definitely not want it and that will have no bearing on youÂ
Usseewa ⟠SheâĄThey ⟠Posted Tuesday at 12:35 AM Author Posted Tuesday at 12:35 AM 4 hours ago, Aeoryi said: I understand not wanting to not want hrt. but it isn't a rite of passage for being trans in any way. I know trans people who've never taken hrt over the course of their transition and I know trans people who were taking hrt who stopped because it didn't feel right for them Ultimately hrt is just a tool that if you don't want you can definitely not want it and that will have no bearing on you i need to talk to someone i think.. or just want to.. none of the people are right tho.., it's not their jobs. i cant just go off on a tangent about all my issues to person..
Aeoryi she/her Posted Tuesday at 12:41 AM Posted Tuesday at 12:41 AM 6 minutes ago, Usseewa said: i need to talk to someone i think.. or just want to.. none of the people are right tho.., it's not their jobs. i cant just go off on a tangent about all my issues to person.. You already do silly some people get paid to hear things I guess Â
Usseewa ⟠SheâĄThey ⟠Posted Tuesday at 12:59 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 12:59 PM 12 hours ago, Aeoryi said: You already do silly some people get paid to hear things I guess  wdym you/shard? i guess ... true  i like how i look i guess... when its sunny and i see myself and my hair and it looks nice but not when im wearing a hat for some reason...?
Aeoryi she/her Posted Tuesday at 01:11 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:11 PM 10 minutes ago, Usseewa said: wdym you/shard? i guess ... true  i like how i look i guess... when its sunny and i see myself and my hair and it looks nice but not when im wearing a hat for some reason...? not me I don't get paid a cent. In fact, it takes a toll on me instead.  I now like the way my hair looks somewhat. it's growing out nicely, helps that there's an acquaintance I've known for a while who has a hairstyle very similar to mine (although it still needs to grow a bit more)  1
ParaTulip fae/faer (declines as she/her) Posted Tuesday at 06:50 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:50 PM On 6/15/2026 at 11:48 AM, Akimikoisthecutest said: I don't think that I could.... First, I couldn't get away with it because everyone around me would notice... Second, I would absolutely be subjected to a lot of questions if I did get caught. Maybe you can think of this as being part of the tradition of bold women who rejected the beauty standards of shaving? Those impositions on womanhood were done by the hideous men who wanted their wives to look "nubile". It is a cultural tendency to want the girl who looks like Lolita without being accused of violating sexual taboos. Always remember: You are a woman, what you do is part of womanhood. Think about how you are effecting other women by your example. Reinforcing the code of youthfulness as attractiveness is bad for womankind. 1
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted Tuesday at 08:13 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:13 PM Heya not trans person here hopping in to see what yâall are chatting about hope you donât mind I was just skimming a bit 1 hour ago, ParaTulip said: Maybe you can think of this as being part of the tradition of bold women who rejected the beauty standards of shaving? Those impositions on womanhood were done by the hideous men who wanted their wives to look "nubile". It is a cultural tendency to want the girl who looks like Lolita without being accused of violating sexual taboos. Always remember: You are a woman, what you do is part of womanhood. Think about how you are effecting other women by your example. Reinforcing the code of youthfulness as attractiveness is bad for womankind. In my undoubtedly biased and in no way definitive opinion as a cis, straight guy, I somewhat disagree with the very last point there I understand what youâre saying, but at the same time, I donât think that aligning with traditional beauty standards is necessarily wrong. Being forced to do so is, but some girls just do it cause they like it. A girl shaving her legs because she wants to doesnât necessarily mean sheâs submitting to âimpositionsâ from âhideous menâ. @Akimikoisthecutest, I think you should do whatever you want to do - although if there are consequences, then well, itâs your choice to make
ParaTulip fae/faer (declines as she/her) Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 11 hours ago, Hoid Slayer said: A girl shaving her legs because she wants to doesnât necessarily mean sheâs submitting to âimpositionsâ from âhideous menâ. You are right to doubt your place in saying this. It's always wicked men who want to veil the evil of their kind in the free will of their victims. Shaving because it feels good is fine. I love my skills with a safety razor. Shaving because it feels necessary is a sign of coercision coming from the social machine that serves up women as objects for consumption.
Aeoryi she/her Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, ParaTulip said: You are right to doubt your place in saying this. It's always wicked men who want to veil the evil of their kind in the free will of their victims. Shaving because it feels good is fine. I love my skills with a safety razor. Shaving because it feels necessary is a sign of coercision coming from the social machine that serves up women as objects for consumption. While I do agree with some of the premises of your argument, we do have to be mindful and careful of misandry. This isn't to call your argument misandristic, I just want to remind everyone here of that guideline. Unfortunately as much as we would like to just defy society, it's not always going to have an effect on a macroscopic scale. So in the end, make choices you think fit you best. I know this will probably sound like I'm being ignorant of the impact small actions can make, but in this situation the benefit to yourself is by far more important than what future generations will think of especially given your circumstances. Â
ParaTulip fae/faer (declines as she/her) Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Just now, Aeoryi said: misandry. This isn't to call your argument misandristic, I just want to remind everyone here of that guideline. Oh my condition is not that. My issue is more androphobia. Men are horrifying things, prone to all sorts of crimes in much greater propensity than women. Of course, I wish more that men be cured of this tendency and not simply annihilated, since there are such things as good men just as there are wicked men. Also, I was tortured by my mother's second husband who was named Andy so like... my brain glitches out when seeing men and especially when seeing one in the mirror. I also prefer to think of it as molecular and molar instead of macro and micro, when talking about the sense of scale that actions can have. We are all molecules in the vast molarity of society. When exactly it is enough different molecules that the molar sample being seen is changed is hard to say. My original offer was simply to give @Akimikoisthecutesta way to feel like a bold and strong soul in her suffering instead of just another victim of the system. I literally took my razor to my face at around 3am last night to make myself feel like I could sleep again. I understand that scraping and shaving can be all so soothing. Heck, shaving my legs was one of my first acts of gender! Sorry for the confusion and the touchyness, but it does bother me when cismen step into this kind of a discussion.
Aeoryi she/her Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 2 minutes ago, ParaTulip said: Oh my condition is not that. My issue is more androphobia. Men are horrifying things, prone to all sorts of crimes in much greater propensity than women. Of course, I wish more that men be cured of this tendency and not simply annihilated, since there are such things as good men just as there are wicked men. Also, I was tortured by my mother's second husband who was named Andy so like... my brain glitches out when seeing men and especially when seeing one in the mirror. I'm super sorry to hear about that. My condolences. 3 minutes ago, ParaTulip said: My original offer was simply to give @Akimikoisthecutesta way to feel like a bold and strong soul in her suffering instead of just another victim of the system. I literally took my razor to my face at around 3am last night to make myself feel like I could sleep again. I understand that scraping and shaving can be all so soothing. Heck, shaving my legs was one of my first acts of gender! Ah, okay. I like that approach. And you are right. Shaving my legs for the first time was a genuinely shocking experience (now, having someone notice that I did so was a different experience) 5 minutes ago, ParaTulip said: Sorry for the confusion and the touchyness, but it does bother me when cismen step into this kind of a discussion Oh yeah for sure I mean I don't like it either when people with no authority on a topic impose either. It's just not very respectful to the space as a whole. It's part of the reason why I really hate it when people try to act like cishet people don't have the "same attention" as non-cishet people; it's super inconsiderate to the actual issues at hand so I understand your feelings somewhat, I think
Honors Spectral Image She/her Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 17 hours ago, ParaTulip said: Maybe you can think of this as being part of the tradition of bold women who rejected the beauty standards of shaving? Those impositions on womanhood were done by the hideous men who wanted their wives to look "nubile". It is a cultural tendency to want the girl who looks like Lolita without being accused of violating sexual taboos. Always remember: You are a woman, what you do is part of womanhood. Think about how you are effecting other women by your example. Reinforcing the code of youthfulness as attractiveness is bad for womankind. The problem tho with that is that those are things that will get me clocked, there are things I wish I didnât have to do to pass cus they arenât super comfy but these things are keeping me from getting clocked which can make interactions anywhere from uncomfortable to dangerous, I think itâs dumb that society pressures women to shave their legs and I donât think women have too and I donât think they have to wear a full face of makeup everytime they get out those things donât make someone a woman, I do both of those partly bc the more âtraditionally feminineâ things that I have the lower the risk of me getting clocked (I also just like wearing makeup)
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago I would like to apologize if I overstepped in any way I stepped in to comment on what I saw as a single-angled perspective, and I see now thatâs not your stance ParaTulip, Iâm really sorry for what you had to go through I agree that patriarchy-imposed societal expectations are a serious problem, and I donât think any women should be pressured to do things they donât want to 4
ParaTulip fae/faer (declines as she/her) Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago @Honors Spectral ImageIf you cannot do these things, then at the very least celebrate us punks who rebel in your name. Commend the transfemmes who pass only as such, and laud our courage as if it were your own. @Hoid SlayerWe're cool dude. I speak with this kind of passion due to other life events. Not angry at you, just wanted to be extremely clear because you were stepping in as an outsider and also being protective of my fellows queer folks is a point of pride I have. If you dig what I said, then we have no beef. 3
Honors Spectral Image She/her Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 10 minutes ago, ParaTulip said: @Honors Spectral ImageIf you cannot do these things, then at the very least celebrate us punks who rebel in your name. Commend the transfemmes who pass only as such, and laud our courage as if it were your own. @Hoid SlayerWe're cool dude. I speak with this kind of passion due to other life events. Not angry at you, just wanted to be extremely clear because you were stepping in as an outsider and also being protective of my fellows queer folks is a point of pride I have. If you dig what I said, then we have no beef. Yes ofc and there are some things I can do I donât dress traditionally feminine and my hair is only shoulder length but those are some of the few things I can do that wonât get me clocked but I applaud you and all others who fight the patriarchy by reveling against its sexist ideas of what womanhood is 1
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