Magenta Albatross Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Elephant looking at Beagle's post, and yeah, vibes are weird on Elephant its strange im getting all the wrong signals from them also honestly Heron is giving village vibes going back and a few of their posts are convincing
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Quote when he tried to dissuade against the Octo wagon before it gained traction D1 > D2 6 minutes ago, Oxblood Beagle said: Toucan with voting during night, Flamingo forgetting Croc died, and Elephant not knowing Kangaroo flipped within the three people 2 r = . Indigo Weasel Saffron Iguana + Plum Rhinoserous
Saffron Iguana Posted January 9 Posted January 9 18 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said: Ig willing to back me up on Toucan? Yeah. Rhino Toucan.
Indigo Weasel Posted January 9 Posted January 9 So, people keep saying that I’m overestimating people’s play. That I’m expecting people to be more strategic and such. Which makes sense, not everyone plays the way I do. However: I would like to make the point that this is an anonymous game. Unless someone recognizes someone else from their playstyle or word choice or something. There is no way to tell who is and isn’t experienced. It is highly possible someone is faking inexperience. Deepwolfing has been brought up, this is no different from that. In fact, I’d say deepwolfing now is probably easier than deepwolfing in other games. I’m treating everyone as if they are playing strategically because this is perfect ground for deepwolfing, we can’t call people out for acting differently. I would be surprised if the Elims don’t have someone deepwolfing in some way(I may be biased in favor of deepwolfing because I’ve done it before to win)
Oxblood Beagle Posted January 9 Posted January 9 14 minutes ago, Ivory Dragonfly said: D1 > D2 within the three people 2 r = . Indigo Weasel Saffron Iguana + Plum Rhinoserous That's fair, I'll think on it more later today And by within the three people, do you mean two are elim or two are village? Or something entirely different Can you say more why you think Rhinoceros is suspicious?
Mint Heron Posted January 9 Posted January 9 4 hours ago, Magenta Albatross said: minus my v/reads that leaves Heron and Dingo 4 hours ago, Magenta Albatross said: @Mint Heron defend yourself Literally nothing to defend myself against other than "Croc v!read me" and you v!read me D1 so presumably at some point your PoE shifted ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Like ok bud that's a Croc problem not a me problem, take it up with him. If you think picking up on DF's Lurcher claim, v!leaning DF, and then screaming bloody murder and consistantly brigading the thread on the issue because I didn't want people to sleepwalk into D1ing a v!Lurcher again is Elim behaviour then I don't really know what I can do for you at this point bruh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Easier for E!me to take one look at Weasel's and Flamingo's complete disinterest in DF's Lurcher claim and just let the Village sleepwalk into that one. (If you think DF is E or that Axl is E then I can't really help you anymore, but I'd point out the train complacency there and Croc's willingness to park on Axl at those large train sizes and not return suggests otherwise for Axl, and DF claiming the Beagle save and DF's opener and willingness to actually do analysis rather than hide behind the echo gimmick all carry credit with me.) 3 hours ago, Melon Dingo said: But in short their analysis posts explicitly defend Kangaroo for reasons that don't make sense and v!read Zebra's while telling us not to listen to them when Zebra was sus on Croc which is a clever way to defend Croc without defending Croc. Lastly, the EOD D1 feels weird to me. Heron was asking people to explain and elaborate stuff in the last 10 minutes when people were talking about moving to Kangaroo. I think they were trying to slow down the thread to make it less likely that switch happened. Ah yes, Heron, notorious Kanga defender: Post #2 in D1 thread: On 1/5/2026 at 12:46 PM, Mint Heron said: can be hepful, can be low effort. not clear, just something that popped in mind. Heron isn't sure how to read Kanga. On 1/5/2026 at 12:46 PM, Mint Heron said: ok fair. maybe im too uncharitable to ocho myself. i still find it ?, am not sure about kanga's opening, but bolded is kind of good imo, at least there's some kind of attentiveness there. Heron continues to express mixed opinions of Kanga. On 1/6/2026 at 8:21 AM, Mint Heron said: i've also more or less stated my views in one of my megaposts, probably #2: i specifically v!lean DF because of their second post and slight/semi mindmeld and have a grudging v!lean on ocho. i dislike flamingo catch-up hunting and don't like kanga activity farming. there's someone i voted and clashed with over rng i need to go back and look. idk i can ascribe much of a read there - they're very confident which i'd like to v!read given the context of their claims but their tone has certain indicators that point to thos confidence being NAI. i have a weak positive read of zebra which will sound incredibly perverse but boils down to zebra having a very weird line of thought that, combined with their opener, i take to be more likely to come from a villager. Heron decides Kanga is activity farming and doesn't like it. (For context when I said "can be low effort", that's what I had concerns about: posting a vc is a simple way to appear engaged but do nothing constructive, and by that point in the game, I'd kind of felt Kanga had gone way further into farming territory which informed why I was ok suggesting a Kanga CW.) On 1/6/2026 at 1:51 PM, Mint Heron said: K. If so do you feel worth pivot to Axl or Kanga? Full disclaimer I'm running on no sleep atm so a lot of things may not be correct math etc-wise. Heron, notorious Kanga fan. On 1/6/2026 at 9:01 PM, Mint Heron said: Why are we considering D1ing a doctor? Genuinely, am I crazy now? Have I walked into ersatz world? Am I so sleep-deprived my brain isn't working anymore? I @ Weasel mostly because I wanted a sanity check and all I'm feeling is increasingly insane at this point. (I guess this is more induced by reading the most recent posts, esp. Flamingo, Axl, Dingo, because rn if we do not want to exe Axl, we are left with the closest CW being DF (!!!!) unless we agree on a CW to avoid this, e.g. Kanga.) Heron: very much a Kanga bro. On 1/6/2026 at 10:10 PM, Mint Heron said: @Oxblood Beagle - Depends on your assessment of train sizes. I don't object to a Kanga train at current credences, need to reread (back in 15), mostly don't want a weird scenario where the actual CW is DF unless we all consciously agree this is the route we want to take given the claim and suspicion states atm. On 1/6/2026 at 10:54 PM, Mint Heron said: I will say I am ok with Kanga but that's off their general thread position & ironically for reasons opposite croc. Ironically, also consistent with Heron's very first issue with Kanga and subsequent accusations of thread farming, given Croc's v!read of Kanga was based off...posting vc. Also, wrt slowing thread down, take a look at these: On 1/6/2026 at 10:44 PM, Melon Dingo said: Im pretty happy with the Axolotl exe especially with the hard push it seems Heron and Gecko are doing to lift it. Melon Dingo: Distrusts proposed swing thinking something is sus. Melon Dingo: Also doesn't understand why Heron might also be paranoid at EoD about Gecko calling for a tie to try to get a Rioter to kill DF. I feel like there's an inconsistency there where Dingo supposedly has fog-of-war but doesn't seem to understand/think that someone else should also have fog-of-war: up to that point, why should I trust Gecko's motives, or literally anyone else on at EoD, especially since I was explicit on the fact I didn't think a EoD tie was in and of itself valuable? Dingo's inability to grok this fog-of-war low key makes me wonder, because that should be the most relatable frame of mind for a Villager. I don't gotta trust their motives for a stable train, I do gotta question their motives if they are proposing a switch because the volatility can lead to a lot of unproductive results, e.g. the infamous Lion-Dragonfly-Vulture dance from an ancient AN where Dragonfly, Lion, and Vulture kept cross-voting despite trying to converge on a train because they were last minute hopping and screaming and this resulted in the Elim being saved and the Villager dying. On 1/6/2026 at 9:01 PM, Mint Heron said: Not really. They're better off when you can read where the votes are going but in terms of raw results, not particularly. On 1/6/2026 at 10:10 PM, Mint Heron said: @Oxblood Beagle - Depends on your assessment of train sizes. I don't object to a Kanga train at current credences, need to reread (back in 15), mostly don't want a weird scenario where the actual CW is DF unless we all consciously agree this is the route we want to take given the claim and suspicion states atm. On 1/6/2026 at 10:48 PM, Mint Heron said: Tie proposal, no objection if ok with train and sizes are ok, am not sure I sus Weasel - can I v quickly ask for your Weasel case. On 1/6/2026 at 10:54 PM, Mint Heron said: But to confirm, in tie world what are the proposes train sizes/configs we are looking at achieving? If Gecko had stated he was looking for a 4/4/3 config I would've probably just paranoided through the roof. Anyway is way more effort than I wanted to put in. I'll scan the thread, try to put in a useful vote, and then I'm done here. I really keep giving this game more time/energy than I can afford to at present and it's on me for doing so. I trust the Villagers here will keep us from doing something too stupid wrt the exe because I ain't got the bandwidth or energy to repeat the Dragonfly screaming again from D1. Not gonna address the Zebra point except to note that "this guy is being very loud to distract from his teammates" is a Take in a Tyrian game with a Seeker and Elims usually are a lot more concerned about drawing unfriendly Seeker attention because of the power of Tyrian Seekers, so I think it's reasonable to squint at it but also say that Zebra looks V for what is, on my part, a pretty silly thing "I kind of recognise what Zebra is doing and those players who do it have usually been V." If you need productive things from me, go see the N1 longpost because that at least came from a Heron with some time and energy to do analysis so I trust that more than current service-degraded Heron.
Onyx Flamingo Posted January 9 Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Taupe Gecko said: Dingo was suspicious of Croc N1 Flamingo was very defensive of Heron: Alright I wrote the above hours ago its expired I'm not gonna complete it Call me crazy (I absolutely am) but I wanna kill either Flamingo or Ig Going Ig based off current trends Hehe I wasn't defensive of Heron, I was defensive of myself. Where do you see me defending Heron? 34 minutes ago, Oxblood Beagle said: Currently, I'd like to vote within the three people (Toucan, Flamingo, Elephant) who hopped on the Octo wagon without providing as much reasoning to it. I feel like an elim could have slipped into that as an opportunity to try and get a Coinshot as additional KP. So I tried to look into what they've done and said so far Toucan Reveal hidden contents D1: poke votes Elephant and disappears for the rest of the day N1: votes Axolotl despite it being night and when prompted, says it was a change in suspicion, but doesn't explain why D2 - admits that one of the best strategies to avoid suspicion is by posting little and shows self-awareness that saying that could incriminate him (since he's posted little also) - voted Octo following other's reasoning but doesn't seem to have a lot of conviction initially - later says he didn't have a justification for voting Axl - offers more reasoning to suspect Octo (which feels a little like they had help from a team to come up with that) Flamingo Hide contents D1 - posts 5 RP posts, the 6th post is them still feeling lost despite engaging in the thread - defends DF and then follows Croc's reasoning for voting Axl N1: had a rather defensive reaction to being in the PoE D2 - seemingly forgets that Croc died - votes Octo following other's reasoning and doesn't have any other reads to share Elephant Reveal hidden contents D1 - cites that they v!read DF as real saboteurs would not draw attention - when Meerkat voted Kangaroo, he voted him for being too willing to switch votes (which was the same reason for DF being suspected) - has a v!lean on Croc N1: Asks "How did you know Kanga is evil?" D2 - suspected Octo based on their D1 vote on DF - drops the vote because they forgot Octo claimed Coinshot - votes Octo again following Weasel's reasoning All three have some odd moments of not knowing something (Toucan with voting during night, Flamingo forgetting Croc died, and Elephant not knowing Kangaroo flipped), and I'm not sure how deliberate or genuine that is. But it might be a factor to consider who is likely to manufacture such a reaction I'll admit, I don't have a deep reasoning to suspect them, which is partly due to them not really saying that much. But from what little they said, I feel inclined to vote Onyx Flamingo here. I'm suspicious of the fact that they were acting lost on D1 despite being in thread then hopping on the Axl wagon. Later on in N1, they were rather defensive when placed in the PoE and currently in D2, they didn't have other reads to share and admitted to just be following Weasel's reasoning. So, I guess part of this is less that they're that suspicious, but they haven't given me enough to convince me that they're village Also, on Iguana, I'm still suspicious of the part where they switched their vote off Kangaroo when Weasel's vote brought it to 3. But I do like their D2 more and he looks a little better in my eyes when he tried to dissuade against the Octo wagon before it gained traction. I knew we killed an elim but i forgot it was specifically Croc, because we hadn't interacted much, and everyone has crazy names. Yes, I felt lost because I had done 5 RP posts to other RP posts without any SE interaction between. And to be fair, even on D1, context is very important for SE. I dont love the idea of process of elimination. Said PoE was also based purely on the assumption that there 'has to be an elim' in a countertrain (i dont even really remember anymore) I have reads, just not good ones. v!read on DF, v!read on Axl, and e!lean on Iguana. I often spend more time trying to defend myself against other people giving me a light e!lean than coming up with reads myself. And yes, I do often follow other people's reasoning, purely because, as you have just seen, I'm not good at coming up with reads myself. (I do have a v!lean on Rhino, but that is only because they v!leaned me, so I understand that is bias). I was trying to explain my reasoning, but I guess that just made me more suspicious. Any more questions?
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) Quote Two are village ^ 23 minutes ago, Oxblood Beagle said: Can you say more why you think Rhinoceros is suspicious? I'm sus on Saffron Iguana + Plum Rhino Counter wagon attempt On Octo. Saffron Iguana. Plum Rhino #2. Quote Im sus on Octo, but so many people being so willing to vote on them is weird -Melon Dingo Melon Dingo, 2 - 3 sus, More village. Quote Also Heron is more sus and I think Herons flip will tell us about Octopus ... We shouldn't kill Mint Heron. 2 minutes ago, Onyx Flamingo said: v!read on DF < 3 Edited January 9 by Ivory Dragonfly
Mint Heron Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) @The Unknown Medallion u got a vc. i got a decision to make before i actually shut this damn browser and go back to deadline Edited to add: 31 minutes ago, Ivory Dragonfly said: Counter wagon attempt On Octo. Saffron Iguana. Plum Rhino #2. You read Rhino's EoD as trying to form a CW on Octo but not getting there in time? Edited to add 2: God helps those who help themselves ig. Quote Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Scarlet Octopus (4): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Indigo Weasel Mint Heron (1): Melon Dingo Magenta Albatross (1): Plum Rhinoceros Indigo Weasel (1): Scarlet Octopus Sunburst Toucan (4): Quartz Zebra, Taupe Gecko, Saffron Iguana, Mint Heron Onyx Flamingo (1): Oxblood Beagle Sapphire Elephant (1): Magenta Albatross Saffron Iguana (1): Ivory Dragonfly Jebiga then. Sunburst Toucan, the tie is someone else's problem to go break, I just cannot anymore. @The Unknown Medallion / @A Jo in the Bush in case missed because vote added in edit but I kinda doubt it's gonna be an issue. Edited January 9 by Mint Heron
Onyx Flamingo Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ivory Dragonfly said: ^ I'm sus on Saffron Iguana + Plum Rhino Counter wagon attempt On Octo. Saffron Iguana. Plum Rhino #2. Melon Dingo, 2 - 3 sus, More village. ... We shouldn't kill Mint Heron. < 3 < 3 Cannot wait until I find out who you are. Edited January 9 by Onyx Flamingo
Melon Dingo Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) First half of your post is 100% why I'm reading you as evil. You are showing yourself very charitably, which makes sense... But even like where you say 1 hour ago, Mint Heron said: On 1/4/2026 at 8:46 PM, Mint Heron said: can be hepful, can be low effort. not clear, just something that popped in mind. Heron isn't sure how to read Kanga. On 1/4/2026 at 8:46 PM, Mint Heron said: ok fair. maybe im too uncharitable to ocho myself. i still find it ?, am not sure about kanga's opening, but bolded is kind of good imo, at least there's some kind of attentiveness there. Heron continues to express mixed opinions of Kanga. These posts are exactly why I think you're sus. You're saying these are you being negative about Kangaroo but... you just literally aren't. Associating Kangaroo with being helpful? Even if you say don't clear them you are still calling them helpful. Not sure about Kangaroo's opening but bolded is good is you saying you weren't sure before but now you're leaning more good than you were before. That is a positive statement. And great hedging. The funny thing is you're saying this about a post where Kangaroo is also hedging. I still need to finish my reads of your posts as, like I said, I lost my progress halfway through. But just looking at the first post you gave late in the cycle, you're asking Weasel who is already on Kangaroo if he'd be interested in a Kangaroo or Axolotl wagon... which seems to me like you're testing the waters on them moving to axolotl. Not to mention people keep bringing up that Octopus may have been fishing for a Coinshot claim but you're the person to actually encourage a coinshot to step forward and claim. Anyways, I do need to finish that read through and it looks like no one else is interested in this which means my vote is pointless here. I'll look for a place to move it before I go to sleep Edit: actually I think I need to take a step back. i've been doing this too long today and I I've already made up my mind Heron is evil and I don't think I'm open to reevaluating that rn. I'll take a break and look at other people and Heron again later Edited January 9 by Melon Dingo
Mint Heron Posted January 9 Posted January 9 You've stated you've made up your mind on me and aren't open to revising. That's your prerogative. I am going nevertheless to point out why all of these are wrong so you can continue to ignore me It'll just be on me for allowing myself to get baited into a useless and unconstructive argument. 14 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: These posts are exactly why I think you're sus. You're saying these are you being negative about Kangaroo but... you just literally aren't. Associating Kangaroo with being helpful? Even if you say don't clear them you are still calling them helpful. Not sure about Kangaroo's opening but bolded is good is you saying you weren't sure before but now you're leaning more good than you were before. That is a positive statement. And great hedging. The funny thing is you're saying this about a post where Kangaroo is also hedging. Except that I was not saying don't clear them. I was saying it was not clear to me whether it was something that should be read positively (helpful) or negatively (low efforting.) If I meant "don't clear" I would've said don't clear. Then, sure: saying I find the bolded good is a valence improvement, but the fact I mention Kanga's opening indicates I continue to have doubts because of the opening, because clearly the opening continued to carry weight with me despite a second post. "And great hedging" - ok, so you expect me, a player who just entered the game, given this was my second post, to form a solid read on players with zero doubts based on... what, 3 pages of activity before that? Come off it. 18 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: But just looking at the first post you gave late in the cycle, you're asking Weasel who is already on Kangaroo if he'd be interested in a Kangaroo or Axolotl wagon... which seems to me like you're testing the waters on them moving to axolotl. Ok, and what was the votestate then? Majority on Dragonfly, high thread complacency, likelihood a pivot hits Axl due to those two being the lead trains. Why the f does E!me fing care about a fing 3-vote Kanga train when Weasel is one guy who never votestumps and Kanga is not in the lead? 19 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: Not to mention people keep bringing up that Octopus may have been fishing for a Coinshot claim but you're the person to actually encourage a coinshot to step forward and claim. Yeah, because ccing is an acceptable tactic and I'd envisioned we might have complications if a Lurcher tried to Lurch Octo at Night so regardless we were always going to need to settle it in thread. Good tunnel. Bookmark this; hope you feel proud of yourself after I flip (I know it won't be today, but I'm sure I'll die eventually, all men are mortal!)
Melon Dingo Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Ok so about to go to bed and don't think I should break the tie at the moment. Between the trains led by Beagle and Ivory, both Iguana and Flamingo really went under the radar for me where I thought they had fewer posts than they did. That was more exaggerated with Flamingo. However, some of flamingo's posts reads as earnest to me and Iguana talked a lot about mechanics today. As it's going on 1am so that's the quality of thoughts we are going to get. Heron Iguana
Plum Rhinoceros Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) 7 hours ago, Indigo Weasel said: it is possible this was a mistake by Octopus, but Octopus hasn’t said anything to further that thought. He never said claiming was a mistake, in fact, he’s doubled down saying he was trying to get himself off the chopping block. So while it’s possible, I don’t think so. You are right, there’s no way for him to do everything optimally, but if if was a mistake, Octopus probably would’ve said that, or try to throw doubt on the fact that he claimed coinshot or something. There are many ways to fix or at least throw doubt on this, even in the case of a mistake. Weasel, my point is that what might be seeming as sub-optimal for us, Octo might not see it that way at all. I think they believe this was the best course of action for them and they don't think of it as a mistake at all. In addition, I think Bea's point of a possible e!Kandra stealing Coinshot is a real threat. There is no rush to solve Octo today. If you believe they are not a CS, we hold them responsible to their kills. I really do not want to direct them but we can give them a list to shoot in, and the hypothetical real CS can prove Octo is lying by shooting outside that list. We keep holding Octo accountable for the kills, and revaluate as the game goes on. 5 hours ago, Ivory Dragonfly said: ^ I'm sus on Saffron Iguana + Plum Rhino Counter wagon attempt On Octo. Saffron Iguana. Plum Rhino #2. I'll repost my situation - 14 hours ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: [I thought I had a bit of free time so I sat down to catch up on Day One, I thought I had enough time to finish it up and drop a vote but I got called away and came back right at the rollover, and I did not want to lose my post so I just submitted it.] I know it looks like a case on Octo but I just started reading D1 and making notes like my subsequent posts. Octo's posts were the most prominent in standing out in the first couple of pages. Also, I posted that after the rollover. Jo announced the cycle close later but I posted it after the clock hit :00, so what exactly was the counter wagon attempt? @Melon Dingo, I am very slightly wary of Heron too, but this is not the cycle to act on it. It is very easy to identify v!Heron as the game goes on, so again, as long as we keep revaluating, we should be okay. I'm okay with either Ig or Toucan. The vote is not a preference of one over the other, it is to break the tie Toucan has with Octo. I'll look more into both of them to see if there's any reason to favor one over the other. edit: Forgot to talk about Flami, seeing as Bea is voting them. On 1/6/2026 at 10:10 PM, Onyx Flamingo said: This is how it went down (from my perspective): Hide contents Dragonfly train begins Axl train begins as a counter (some time farther in time) At the very very end, Kangaroo train begins, because Kangaroo was more suspicous Kangaroo is elim Elim train was a counter train so the counter train you are speaking of would be the dragonfly train of which I was on one of the counter-trains too (the kangaroo train being one of which) So I dont fully understand what you are talking about. @Oxblood Beagle, this is the part I was talking about. I think the way they express this comes off as very genuine and villager-y. Edited January 9 by Plum Rhinoceros
Oxblood Beagle Posted January 9 Posted January 9 7 hours ago, Onyx Flamingo said: I knew we killed an elim but i forgot it was specifically Croc, because we hadn't interacted much, and everyone has crazy names. Yes, I felt lost because I had done 5 RP posts to other RP posts without any SE interaction between. And to be fair, even on D1, context is very important for SE. I dont love the idea of process of elimination. Said PoE was also based purely on the assumption that there 'has to be an elim' in a countertrain (i dont even really remember anymore) I have reads, just not good ones. v!read on DF, v!read on Axl, and e!lean on Iguana. I often spend more time trying to defend myself against other people giving me a light e!lean than coming up with reads myself. And yes, I do often follow other people's reasoning, purely because, as you have just seen, I'm not good at coming up with reads myself. (I do have a v!lean on Rhino, but that is only because they v!leaned me, so I understand that is bias). I was trying to explain my reasoning, but I guess that just made me more suspicious. Any more questions? 3 hours ago, Melon Dingo said: Between the trains led by Beagle and Ivory, both Iguana and Flamingo really went under the radar for me where I thought they had fewer posts than they did. That was more exaggerated with Flamingo. However, some of flamingo's posts reads as earnest to me and Iguana talked a lot about mechanics today. 1 hour ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: Forgot to talk about Flami, seeing as Bea is voting them. @Oxblood Beagle, this is the part I was talking about. I think the way they express this comes off as very genuine and villager-y. To Flamingo, thank you for the answers. I'm still not fully convinced, but I do think you explained some of your actions fairly and I'm willing to re-evaluate To Dingo and Rhino, I'm rereading on some of their posts and see that some of their posts do come across as earnest and genuine (partly, I also feel like I'm getting a better idea of who Flamingo is and think this is consistent with how I see them as village) Onyx Flamingo
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Scarlet Octopus (4): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Indigo Weasel Indigo Weasel (1): Scarlet Octopus Sunburst Toucan (5) : Quartz Zebra, Saffron Iguana, Mint Heron, Plum Rhinoceros, Taupe Gecko Saffron Iguana (2): Ivory Dragonfly, Melon Dingo Sapphire Elephant (1): Magenta Albatross
Oxblood Beagle Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) On 1/5/2026 at 8:22 AM, Salmon Meerkat said: It was mainly a poke vote, and I didn't know that there was a train forming. I'm always suspicious of those who join trains on C1, and (Ivory Dragonfly) Sage Kangaroo didn't seem to have a lot of reason for their vote. --------------------------- Dugh was angry. How could everyone be so wrong? He wasn't sure about Echo, but so many others did. Those idiots! Couldn't they see that they could be wrong? "Morons" he muttered. "I'm the only one who understands." On 1/5/2026 at 8:38 AM, Saffron Iguana said: Why are you always suspicious of people that join trains on C1? It seems less messy than having votes scattered everywhere, and could force the elims to stick out where we can clean them up. On 1/6/2026 at 12:46 PM, Saffron Iguana said: "Well, I finally got the dog (and it's hair) disposed of. Unfortunately my job description doesn't allow me to do any more work today. I understand that it's my responsibility to do the cleaning in my allotted time, and I shall strive to be more productive on the morrow." Well, I was about to say that it was odd Dragonfly was leaving random poke votes when they are in the lead, but that's been resolved now. My vote on Sage Kanga has outlived its pokiness. In general I find Axolotl a more compelling option than Dragonfly, but I'm also interested in the Dragonfly voters. In particular, Scarlet Octo hasn't really given much more past their original vote, despite things changing a bit since then. Seems like a "I found an easy vote so I'll just sit on it" kinda attitude. Not that I'm one to talk, but what can you do. @Ivory Dragonfly Reread Iguana's D1 and I agree that it's really hard to ignore how they behaved, especially with regards to Kanga In the first two quoted posts, Iguana questions Meerkat's vote on Kangaroo. Maybe it's nothing too deep, but I can see it as a subtle attempt to defend Kangaroo and prevent it from gaining momentum early In the third quote, Iguana moves off Kanga after Weasel makes a case for elim!Kanga, potentially to avoid making Kanga a valid counterwagon during EoD. I don't agree that this is a genuine attempt to make a counterwagon on Octo (hence why I also don't see Rhino as suspicious as they did only post at the very end). However, the line about finding Axolotl to be a more compelling vote and then not going on it comes across to me as a bit TMI. Like, they parked their vote here and then they assumed that Axl will be the exe (who is most likely v! given Croc's switch to them). Not being a part of the voters takes a little responsibility off of them since they didn't actually vote that way and people would likely be more inclined to direct their attention towards people on the wagon So yeah, I think I will vote Saffron Iguana here because I think I would like to resolve them before the other three that I had previously mentioned. However, I'm open to switching to Toucan if the Octo train is rather close for it to potentially go through with Rioting/Seeking powers Edited January 9 by Oxblood Beagle
Taupe Gecko Posted January 9 Posted January 9 22 minutes ago, Oxblood Beagle said: @Ivory Dragonfly Reread Iguana's D1 and I agree that it's really hard to ignore how they behaved, especially with regards to Kanga In the first two quoted posts, Iguana questions Meerkat's vote on Kangaroo. Maybe it's nothing too deep, but I can see it as a subtle attempt to defend Kangaroo and prevent it from gaining momentum early In the third quote, Iguana moves off Kanga after Weasel makes a case for elim!Kanga, potentially to avoid making Kanga a valid counterwagon during EoD. I don't agree that this is a genuine attempt to make a counterwagon on Octo (hence why I also don't see Rhino as suspicious as they did only post at the very end). However, the line about finding Axolotl to be a more compelling vote and then not going on it comes across to me as a bit TMI. Like, they parked their vote here and then they assumed that Axl will be the exe (who is most likely v! given Croc's switch to them). Not being a part of the voters takes a little responsibility off of them since they didn't actually vote that way and people would likely be more inclined to direct their attention towards people on the wagon So yeah, I think I will vote Saffron Iguana here because I think I would like to resolve them before the other three that I had previously mentioned. However, I'm open to switching to Toucan if the Octo train is rather close for it to potentially go through with Rioting/Seeking powers Wait wait wait and it gets more interesting cause after voting Octopus D1 Ig switches up and is the staunchest anti-Octo exer out there But no that makes sense Sticking on Toucan for now, BUT ykw.... I'd be happy on a tie between Toucan and Ig 41 minutes ago, Ivory Dragonfly said: Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Scarlet Octopus (4): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Indigo Weasel Indigo Weasel (1): Scarlet Octopus Sunburst Toucan (5) : Quartz Zebra, Saffron Iguana, Mint Heron, Plum Rhinoceros, Taupe Gecko Saffron Iguana (2): Ivory Dragonfly, Melon Dingo Sapphire Elephant (1): Magenta Albatross @Sunburst Toucan if you wanna live switch to Ig and I will follow and that will get us a two way tie IMPORTANT If we do achieve a tie (and anyone actually wants to back me up on this) we should aim to do it as long before rollover as possible to give elims the most possible time to react Alright that sounds weird but what I mean is the whole point of a tie is if one of them is elim you force the elims to act and last cycle we didn't get that cause they had no time to act we just got lucky
Magenta Albatross Posted January 9 Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said: Wait wait wait and it gets more interesting cause after voting Octopus D1 Ig switches up and is the staunchest anti-Octo exer out there But no that makes sense Sticking on Toucan for now, BUT ykw.... I'd be happy on a tie between Toucan and Ig @Sunburst Toucan if you wanna live switch to Ig and I will follow and that will get us a two way tie IMPORTANT If we do achieve a tie (and anyone actually wants to back me up on this) we should aim to do it as long before rollover as possible to give elims the most possible time to react Alright that sounds weird but what I mean is the whole point of a tie is if one of them is elim you force the elims to act and last cycle we didn't get that cause they had no time to act we just got lucky Saffron Iguana let RNG decide time to toss the dice
Taupe Gecko Posted January 9 Posted January 9 9 hours ago, Indigo Weasel said: So, people keep saying that I’m overestimating people’s play. That I’m expecting people to be more strategic and such. Which makes sense, not everyone plays the way I do. However: I would like to make the point that this is an anonymous game. Unless someone recognizes someone else from their playstyle or word choice or something. There is no way to tell who is and isn’t experienced. It is highly possible someone is faking inexperience. Deepwolfing has been brought up, this is no different from that. In fact, I’d say deepwolfing now is probably easier than deepwolfing in other games. I’m treating everyone as if they are playing strategically because this is perfect ground for deepwolfing, we can’t call people out for acting differently. I would be surprised if the Elims don’t have someone deepwolfing in some way(I may be biased in favor of deepwolfing because I’ve done it before to win) Alright, but using your same logic, why don't you expect everyone to be a rookie instead? Cause I'd expect at least half, perhaps more, of this pool to not have loads of experience. Your outlook is holding everyone to the maximum standard, which for most people won't work. And for the record, I am pretty sure I know who a couple people are and I know a couple people know who I am Just now, Magenta Albatross said: Saffron Iguana let RNG decide time to toss the dice Dovie'andi se tovya sagain o7
Sapphire Elephant Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Wait I just finished reading day 1 What are the reasons for the Iguana train? I probably have to go sleep now.
Oxblood Beagle Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sapphire Elephant said: Wait I just finished reading day 1 What are the reasons for the Iguana train? I probably have to go sleep now. Stated my reasons in this post below (actually realized the quotes don't show up when quoting, so better to scroll up a little instead to the original post) 44 minutes ago, Oxblood Beagle said: @Ivory Dragonfly Reread Iguana's D1 and I agree that it's really hard to ignore how they behaved, especially with regards to Kanga In the first two quoted posts, Iguana questions Meerkat's vote on Kangaroo. Maybe it's nothing too deep, but I can see it as a subtle attempt to defend Kangaroo and prevent it from gaining momentum early In the third quote, Iguana moves off Kanga after Weasel makes a case for elim!Kanga, potentially to avoid making Kanga a valid counterwagon during EoD. I don't agree that this is a genuine attempt to make a counterwagon on Octo (hence why I also don't see Rhino as suspicious as they did only post at the very end). However, the line about finding Axolotl to be a more compelling vote and then not going on it comes across to me as a bit TMI. Like, they parked their vote here and then they assumed that Axl will be the exe (who is most likely v! given Croc's switch to them). Not being a part of the voters takes a little responsibility off of them since they didn't actually vote that way and people would likely be more inclined to direct their attention towards people on the wagon So yeah, I think I will vote Saffron Iguana here because I think I would like to resolve them before the other three that I had previously mentioned. However, I'm open to switching to Toucan if the Octo train is rather close for it to potentially go through with Rioting/Seeking powers Edited January 9 by Oxblood Beagle Added: the quotes don't show up when quoting a post, so it's better to read the original post above
Taupe Gecko Posted January 9 Posted January 9 22 minutes ago, Sapphire Elephant said: Wait I just finished reading day 1 What are the reasons for the Iguana train? I probably have to go sleep now. What Beagle said As for Toucan, I personally really disliked their jump on the Octo train. Ig has been very against the Octo train, and I see world where two elims put themselves on opposite sides of the train in an attempt to distance themselves. It's really not a lot, but it's what we've got
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted January 9 Author Posted January 9 11 hours ago, Taupe Gecko said: Going Ig based off current trends Hehe I'm guessing this was meant to be Iguana? but I don't feel comfy guessing when it could be a death on the line. Please write out more than just two letters. (I feel comfy saying this since you do have a more recent vote elsewhere.) 10 hours ago, Taupe Gecko said: Cause I’m eyeing Flamingo as an alter to Toucan if it doesn’t work out Current Vote Count with half an hour left. Taupe Gecko (1): Salmon Meerkat Sunburst Toucan (5): Taupe Gecko, Saffron Iguana, Quartz Zebra, Plum Rhinoceros, Mint Heron Scarlet Octopus (4): Violet Axolotl, Sunburst Toucan, Sapphire Elephant, Indigo Weasel Saffron Iguana (4): Oxblood Beagle, Melon Dingo, Magenta Albatross, Ivory Dragonfly Indigo Weasel (1): Scarlet Octopus
Taupe Gecko Posted January 9 Posted January 9 H.E.A.R.T.H had lived multiple lives before this one. Of that he was certain. Yet in all the lives, never had he been so unsure. He had fought wars. He had waded through hell, and found solace in suffering. But he had always followed orders. But now... he could no longer follow. For there was no one to give the orders. Now, H.E.A.R.T.H had to choose. Yet he fought it. He wanted to force a tie, because he knew that today, today they might not be so lucky. Today an innocent soul could die. In past lives, he had killed hundreds of innocent souls. It weighed him down, but he could not focus on that now. So instead, he cast his vote, and waited. The halls of the ship were silent. No, not silent. Patient. They knew what was coming. Everyone did. "Toucan." The word rang out alone. And with that, it was yet another tie.Yet another choice of an indecision. Three ways this time. It was not ideal, but it would do. It was done. H.E.A.R.T.H didn't know what else to do. For once, for the first time, he wished for the touch of another, for someone. To be someone. But he could not have that. So instead, he told a story. "This is the tale of a boy." The voice rang out through the comms system, reaching everyone, everywhere, all at once. H.E.A.R.T.H hesitated. The voice was so loud. Then he went on. "This is the tale of a boy, and a girl. "The boy and girl lived in a village. This tale is set in the olden times, times of dirt and blood and wildness. The boy was a warrior's son, mighty and strong. Or at least his father was. The boy was thin, weak, scared. The girl was the mason's daughter, but she... she was strong. And she was never scared. "They grew up together, did everything together. She led, and he followed. She smiled, and he became stronger. With her, he could do anything, and everything was perfect. Then one day, the monsters came. They were small, and pink, and naked. But they were deadly. So deadly. The town burned to the ground, and the monsters took everything. Only the boy and girl survived, because they had gone out to explore and returned to ruins. When they saw the town, they wept, for they had lost everything, and they could never go back. It was all over. But that is not where the story ends. "Then He came. He promised Retribution. And the boy and girl... so little, so pained... accepted. He gave them powers. He replaced their families with weapons, their love with Passion. But it was okay. Because they still had each other. And together, they went to war. "They fought the monsters. They weren't children anymore. They killed, and slaughtered, and got their revenge. But it never changed the past. And then, one day, they got separated. The boy was pulled away, and in his fury, he was stabbed. The girl arrived, and carried him, but she was too late. She smiled down at him, but her face was wet. His face was wet too. And in her arms, he died." H.E.A.R.T.H stopped. "But our story does not end there either. "After his death, the boy went to Damnation. He suffered more than he ever had. In a world of flame and ash and pain, he burned beautifully. And, you see, that was when everything changed."
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