Onyx Flamingo Posted January 7 Posted January 7 15 minutes ago, Scarlet Octopus said: An Elim who pretends to be a villager full-time, earning the trust of the villagers, usually ending up the last living Elim, it's not super common, but it happens. Ah.
Melon Dingo Posted January 7 Posted January 7 5 minutes ago, Scarlet Octopus said: An Elim who pretends to be a villager full-time, earning the trust of the villagers, usually ending up the last living Elim, it's not super common, but it happens. I... how else do you play as an elim? Lol Like not saying there aren't other ways to play... but idk when elim thats the only strategy I remember using. Maybe I need to look back on my old games but maybe that explains why Im often the last elim dead... xD No but seriously the alternative to playing like village is to play like evil right? And that just gets you exed? Maybe I'm misunderstanding. I always saw deepwolfing as a strategy that involves heavy distancing/bussing other the elims so that you look super good and carries you into late game... which is still playing evil as you are still playing with that extra knowledge
Magenta Albatross Posted January 7 Posted January 7 ok wow this is such an insane game for newbies, this is not how games normally go also 2 coinshots/mistborn weirddd
Scarlet Octopus Posted January 7 Posted January 7 58 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: No but seriously the alternative to playing like village is to play like evil right? And that just gets you exed? Maybe I'm misunderstanding. Sorry, it wasn't very clear. They exhibit no elim traits, they don't counter train to save anyone, and they give solid reads and "genuenly" Try to solve the game
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted January 7 Author Posted January 7 7 hours ago, Mint Heron said: @A Jo in the Bush / @The Unknown Medallion Incidentally, what's your ruling for if a Rioter tries to Riot their own vote? Does it still disappear? Hmm. According to my neat automated spreadsheet, there's no rules against it. Provisionally it's fine for now? I'll talk to TUM about it and we'll have a solid answer by the halfway point of Day 2.
Oxblood Beagle Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Levin rose from his cabin. He was still feeling sleepy, perhaps part of the fatigue was recovering from the injuries he sustained last night. He thought about the passengers he suspected and at the moment, Saffron Iguana was at the top of his list. He would think more on it later once he had gotten some food to eat and had a little more rest.
Sapphire Elephant Posted January 8 Posted January 8 11 hours ago, Taupe Gecko said: Once again, H.E.A.R.T.H awoke with time to spare. This time, it left its chamber far heavier. This time, it had witnessed a death. The boy had been struck in battle, and the girl had carried him, she had smiled and joked and tried to laugh, but it was so far and so cold and he had died in her arms. H.E.A.R.T.H had died in her arms. He had to shake his head to free himself from the horror. But he couldn't. He couldn't escape the memories. So he would have to learn to live with them. For his own good. For the good of the TYRIAN. And it seemed there was much to distract him. To begin with, H.E.A.R.T.H heavily thanks the Heron for submitting this effort to the table. In its logs, H.E.A.R.T.H makes a mental recording of the Heron's suspicions to review later. H.E.A.R.T.H did want to make one comment, however. "I am inclined to believe the Axolotl is an ally for now. Before our interference at the very end of the day, it was set for death, and I doubt the monsters would have allowed it to remain in such a dangerous position. There is also, of course, the matter of the Claim." H.E.A.R.T.H disagrees. "In a crew this large, it is very possible two of us claimed Iron medallions. However, I would propose one of two possibilities: either two good lurchers and one evil coinshot, or one good lurcher and one good coinshot and one evil lurcher. Of course, this is my first crew of this magnitude." Axolotl, since you already went to bed I don't know if you'll see this, but I want to make some things clear: Next cycle, if you are alive, we will wish to know who you protected. And on that matter, I would highly recommend protecting the Heron. Claiming Lurcher is absolutely useless to the village if you only use it to self pres, and you're already suspected; your abilities would be best used on someone we know is good, and at this point, Mint Heron is a valuable resource. That sound caught H.E.A.R.T.H's attention. Something about those words resonated with its memories. And so, on a whim, it approached the merchant. "Greetings." It looked up at him. "I have no cash, but could I pay in any other form? Perhaps some service?" "Do you have something in mind?" Klin asked. 7 hours ago, Scarlet Octopus said: Can the saboteurs have a coinshot? There was an e!coinshot in like LG...107 I think. I am kind of lost right now. I shall try catch up later today. ~ Klin was glad Adonalsium Storming Reborn was gone. That man was, like he'd said, rusting bad for business.
Saffron Iguana Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Short list of people to not exe today: Heron Axol Beagle Octo Gecko DF Weasel Meerkat I'm not sure any of those are notable or controversial, though some will certainly be worth revisiting later. Beagle is easily my strongest village read, for proposing the Kanga exe and following through on it. Notably, the potential existence of a village Kandra makes it very unlikely that the elims would vote out their own Seeker D1. And of course surviving a kill is just a cherry on top of all that. Okay, so that leaves the following (minus myself): Sunburst Toucan Sapphire Elephant Quartz Zebra Plum Rhinoceros Pearl Chameleon Opal Lion Onyx Flamingo Melon Dingo Magenta Albatross Lion and Cham both haven't posted to my knowledge, so we should be able to do better than them. I kinda like Alb's reaction to the D1 exe, even if it didn't make any sense. Toucan "switching" onto Axol seems rather suspicious. Honestly nothing about their D1 play sticks out to me. I think I lean toward the Axol train being clean other than Croc. The lack of a Riot from Croc makes me think the elims just weren't involved much in the EOD shenanigans. That rules out Dingo and Flamingo. So that leaves me with Toucan, Elephant, Zebra, and Rhino. Probably a couple of elims in there. My vote will go on Toucan for the aforementioned night vote on Axol, and maybe I'll be up to rereading D1 to look at the other three more closely.
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 8 Posted January 8 On 1/6/2026 at 6:35 PM, Onyx Flamingo said: So, Plum Rhinoceros made an accusation, then switched too Scarlet Octopus. Didn't apply pressure, instead made an accusation under other circumstances. Saffron Iguana saw chaos, but couldn't change it. And Sage Kangaroo was exed. Right? If Those teammates Onyx Flamingo Have more info. Non-elim. Quote When Gecko proposed the tie/switch plan, he actually suggested Weasel We should be village crediting But a Thread controller play. Deepwolf? Not too concerned with paranoia-hunting for them rn. Quote Lion and Cham both haven't posted to my knowledge, so we should be able to do better than them Absolutely. Quote Honestly nothing about their D1 play sticks out to me. Toucan Teammates are dead. Done some sus things. Sunburst Toucan? Quote I think I lean toward the Axol train being clean other than Croc Elim Mauve Crocodile?
Quartz Zebra Posted January 8 Posted January 8 SUBJECT: THAT DARNED LIST Well now, look at that! Arnold, you’ve gone and sorted us all into neat little bins like a fresh shipment of manifold gaskets. I gotta say, I appreciate the tidy work—it's rare to see a mind that organized when the ship’s hummin’ like a hornet’s nest. But mercy me, findin' my name in the "Maybe Elims" pile? I reckon my Grumble-Gauge just hit the red-line. I know I haven’t been the loudest wrench in the box, but that’s 'cause I’ve been busy lookin’ at the gears! While y'all were debatin' the merits of the Axol train, I was keepin' my eye on the "God-King" Adonalsium—and turns out, my gut was right about that leaky logic engine. I ain't a "Switch" or a "Silent Type." I’m just the girl in the overalls who’s real glad Levin is still breathin’ after last night’s ruckus. Wouln't it be weird if I was a Saboteur but spent all my time pointin' at the one guy who actually turned out to be a Traitor? That’d be some real poor plannin' on my part. I’m happy to stay on your "Watch List" for now, Arnold. Keeps me on my toes, and I like the company. But don't go throwin' out a perfectly good engineer just 'cause she smells like engine oil and doesn't talk in "Optimal Percentages." If you’re lookin' at Ophilia, just make sure you aren't missin' the rattle under the floorboards while you're lookin' at the paint. I’m keepin’ my vote flexible today while I listen to the vents. This ship’s got more leaks than a screen-door submarine, and I intend to find the next one. Stay safe, and for the love of the Core, DON'T TOUCH MY DOODADS! - Finch
Saffron Iguana Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Quartz Zebra said: Arnold I go by Johnson, by the way.
Onyx Flamingo Posted January 8 Posted January 8 18 minutes ago, Ivory Dragonfly said: If Those teammates Onyx Flamingo Have more info. Non-elim. We should be village crediting But a Thread controller play. Deepwolf? Not too concerned with paranoia-hunting for them rn. Absolutely. Teammates are dead. Done some sus things. Sunburst Toucan? Elim Mauve Crocodile? Wait what If those teammates, Onyx Flamingo, have more info, non-elim. You are clearing me but I don't understand Guys can someone help Also are you accusing Croc without voting him?
Taupe Gecko Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Hey guys So I started writing a longer post earlier but my cousins arrived and then I spent time with them and then they got in a fight and then I had to unwind and now I need to sleep and don’t have access to my computer anyways But I promise, thoughts are cooking For now, I’mma switch from Iguana (who seems to be a popular target right now) to Toucan. Toucan, I’ve got nothing in particular against you, but you’re the only other person with a vote right now and I think we benefit from putting more people in danger See y’all tomorrow 2 minutes ago, Onyx Flamingo said: Wait what If those teammates, Onyx Flamingo, have more info, non-elim. You are clearing me but I don't understand Guys can someone help Also are you accusing Croc without voting him? … Croc is dead Y’all really need to start reading these writeups
Onyx Flamingo Posted January 8 Posted January 8 9 minutes ago, Taupe Gecko said: Hey guys So I started writing a longer post earlier but my cousins arrived and then I spent time with them and then they got in a fight and then I had to unwind and now I need to sleep and don’t have access to my computer anyways But I promise, thoughts are cooking For now, I’mma switch from Iguana (who seems to be a popular target right now) to Toucan. Toucan, I’ve got nothing in particular against you, but you’re the only other person with a vote right now and I think we benefit from putting more people in danger See y’all tomorrow … Croc is dead Y’all really need to start reading these writeups SHHH I CANT READ IM AN UNDERTALE FAN (And also apparently an idiot)
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 8 Posted January 8 11 minutes ago, Onyx Flamingo said: You are clearing me Because Quote I don't understand We got another saboteur! Quote Also are you accusing Croc without voting him? The nature of their analysis, Saffron Iguana, "I don't really have any reads rn". We got another saboteur! Anyone that wants to PM me He wasn't ready.
Salmon Meerkat Posted January 8 Posted January 8 I have to make a short post, but I will be back tomorrow. Gecko supporting Dragonfly seemed weird to me, and I'd like to investigate that possible team.
Indigo Weasel Posted January 8 Posted January 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, Saffron Iguana said: Short list of people to not exe today: Heron Axol Beagle Octo Gecko DF Weasel Meerkat I'm not sure any of those are notable or controversial, though some will certainly be worth revisiting later. Beagle is easily my strongest village read, for proposing the Kanga exe and following through on it. Notably, the potential existence of a village Kandra makes it very unlikely that the elims would vote out their own Seeker D1. And of course surviving a kill is just a cherry on top of all that. Okay, so that leaves the following (minus myself): Sunburst Toucan Sapphire Elephant Quartz Zebra Plum Rhinoceros Pearl Chameleon Opal Lion Onyx Flamingo Melon Dingo Magenta Albatross Lion and Cham both haven't posted to my knowledge, so we should be able to do better than them. I kinda like Alb's reaction to the D1 exe, even if it didn't make any sense. Toucan "switching" onto Axol seems rather suspicious. Honestly nothing about their D1 play sticks out to me. I think I lean toward the Axol train being clean other than Croc. The lack of a Riot from Croc makes me think the elims just weren't involved much in the EOD shenanigans. That rules out Dingo and Flamingo. So that leaves me with Toucan, Elephant, Zebra, and Rhino. Probably a couple of elims in there. My vote will go on Toucan for the aforementioned night vote on Axol, and maybe I'll be up to rereading D1 to look at the other three more closely. Would you mind giving reasoning for that list? It’s possible I missed you explaining it earlier, but just in case, I’d like to know Edit: I have my analysis of Beagle and what they said that could possibly attribute to the Elims attack. But I need someone else to post so I’m not double posting Edited January 8 by Indigo Weasel
Saffron Iguana Posted January 8 Posted January 8 13 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: Would you mind giving reasoning for that list? It’s possible I missed you explaining it earlier, but just in case, I’d like to know Edit: I have my analysis of Beagle and what they said that could possibly attribute to the Elims attack. But I need someone else to post so I’m not double posting We’ve got the 5 players that voted Kanga, Heron seems to be playing the way v!Heron plays, Octo claimed to have killed Croc, and Axol claimed Lurcher.
Indigo Weasel Posted January 8 Posted January 8 So this is based on my earlier assumption that the attempt on killing Beagle was on purpose. So based on that, something Beagle did or said must have caused the Elims to try and kill him.(we know it was Elims because it says the saboteurs attempted to kill him, but failed) So, there was only a few posts to go on, but the things that were consistent across it all was suspicion on Axolotl, Kangaroo, and Elephant. Now, obviously Beagle was right about Kangaroo, but that can’t have been the reason because Kangaroo was outed D1, and so there’s no reason to kill for that. That leaves Elephant and Axolotl. Elephant V!leaned Ado, but that doesn’t mean that he’s Elim. Axolotl Voted Kangaroo, but changed it to DF later, and said the original vote was a poke vote. While Axolotl did vote Kangaroo, it was changed, and so Axolotl didn’t vote Kangaroo when it mattered. E!lean on Axolotl, slight V!lean on Elephant. I think Axolotl voted Kangaroo to distanced themself, but then changed so it didn’t matter. However, I’m not voting Axolotl because I feel more certain about someone else. 8 minutes ago, Saffron Iguana said: We’ve got the 5 players that voted Kanga, Heron seems to be playing the way v!Heron plays, Octo claimed to have killed Croc, and Axol claimed Lurcher. So… I don’t like that. Claiming Lurcher doesn’t mean anything, it’s easy to fake. As for Octopus, if they’re telling the truth about being a coinshot, that is an absolute terrible move. Revealing Coinshot means that the Elims know who to target next Night. And while Octopus could be trusting that one of the people who have claimed Lurcher would protect him, as I mentioned, Lurcher is an easy role to fake. Octo is basically relying on people to protect them, and doesn’t even gain advantage for it, there is no reason to reveal as coinshot. And, if Octo is Elim, this could be an attempt to get one of the lurchers(assuming they’re telling the truth) to waste a lurch on him. Octopus was also one of the three people to vote DF right after one another, and I’ve already done analysis on that. Overall, I think Octopus is an Elim, and they’re a better target than Axolotl because that was based on the assumption that the hit wasn’t random. Which is could be(sorry I took a little longer to write this, I had to add the part about Octopus after Iguana posted)
Saffron Iguana Posted January 8 Posted January 8 15 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: So this is based on my earlier assumption that the attempt on killing Beagle was on purpose. So based on that, something Beagle did or said must have caused the Elims to try and kill him.(we know it was Elims because it says the saboteurs attempted to kill him, but failed) So, there was only a few posts to go on, but the things that were consistent across it all was suspicion on Axolotl, Kangaroo, and Elephant. Now, obviously Beagle was right about Kangaroo, but that can’t have been the reason because Kangaroo was outed D1, and so there’s no reason to kill for that. That leaves Elephant and Axolotl. Elephant V!leaned Ado, but that doesn’t mean that he’s Elim. Axolotl Voted Kangaroo, but changed it to DF later, and said the original vote was a poke vote. While Axolotl did vote Kangaroo, it was changed, and so Axolotl didn’t vote Kangaroo when it mattered. E!lean on Axolotl, slight V!lean on Elephant. I think Axolotl voted Kangaroo to distanced themself, but then changed so it didn’t matter. However, I’m not voting Axolotl because I feel more certain about someone else. So… I don’t like that. Claiming Lurcher doesn’t mean anything, it’s easy to fake. As for Octopus, if they’re telling the truth about being a coinshot, that is an absolute terrible move. Revealing Coinshot means that the Elims know who to target next Night. And while Octopus could be trusting that one of the people who have claimed Lurcher would protect him, as I mentioned, Lurcher is an easy role to fake. Octo is basically relying on people to protect them, and doesn’t even gain advantage for it, there is no reason to reveal as coinshot. And, if Octo is Elim, this could be an attempt to get one of the lurchers(assuming they’re telling the truth) to waste a lurch on him. Octopus was also one of the three people to vote DF right after one another, and I’ve already done analysis on that. Overall, I think Octopus is an Elim, and they’re a better target than Axolotl because that was based on the assumption that the hit wasn’t random. Which is could be(sorry I took a little longer to write this, I had to add the part about Octopus after Iguana posted) So you think someone else killed Croc and they just aren’t speaking up? To elaborate a bit more, Octo and Axol are on my short list not just because of their claims, but because there is stuff in the writeup that reflects their claims. In particular, I’d say after Beagle that Octo is the next most village person in the game. Why would e!Octo make a claim that could be easily disproven when the elims have already lost 2 players? Honestly, if you weren’t involved in exeing Kanga then this post would be enough for me to vote on you.
Indigo Weasel Posted January 8 Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, Saffron Iguana said: So you think someone else killed Croc and they just aren’t speaking up? To elaborate a bit more, Octo and Axol are on my short list not just because of their claims, but because there is stuff in the writeup that reflects their claims. In particular, I’d say after Beagle that Octo is the next most village person in the game. Why would e!Octo make a claim that could be easily disproven when the elims have already lost 2 players? Honestly, if you weren’t involved in exeing Kanga then this post would be enough for me to vote on you. Claiming Coinshot is a stupid move. Even if the real coinshot comes forward and says they did it. For one it’s word against word, and two, we’re in the same situation as before, claiming coinshot means the Elims can now know who the coinshot is. And right now, Octopus claiming Coinshot for no reason, other than to brag about exeing and Elim. Is a fantastically terrible idea. There is no advantage gained from doing this. As for easily being disproven, why would a Coinshot speak up? They’ll just hit him night 2. Claiming coinshot would mean Elims know they’re a Coinshot, and the. Target them, and the lurchers won’t know who to protect. There is no advantage to claiming coinshot. Just problems and mistakes, if coinshot has to tell role, the best move would be to do it in Pm to a lurcher, and try and get them to protect you at night. It is entirely possible that Octopus claimed Coinshot in order to get another Coinshot to claim. Which reveals role and therefore can get exed. Why do you believe Octopus?
Saffron Iguana Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Just now, Indigo Weasel said: Claiming Coinshot is a stupid move. Even if the real coinshot comes forward and says they did it. For one it’s word against word, and two, we’re in the same situation as before, claiming coinshot means the Elims can now know who the coinshot is. And right now, Octopus claiming Coinshot for no reason, other than to brag about exeing and Elim. Is a fantastically terrible idea. There is no advantage gained from doing this. As for easily being disproven, why would a Coinshot speak up? They’ll just hit him night 2. Claiming coinshot would mean Elims know they’re a Coinshot, and the. Target them, and the lurchers won’t know who to protect. There is no advantage to claiming coinshot. Just problems and mistakes, if coinshot has to tell role, the best move would be to do it in Pm to a lurcher, and try and get them to protect you at night. It is entirely possible that Octopus claimed Coinshot in order to get another Coinshot to claim. Which reveals role and therefore can get exed. Why do you believe Octopus? It's a cost/benefit thing. It's basically never worth it as an elim to trade for a single villager unless your death was imminent regardless. Simply put, there are more elims than villagers. Any elim team that's happy to trade 1-1 with the village will lose rather quickly. Nowhere here am I saying that it was wise of v!Octo to claim.
Indigo Weasel Posted January 8 Posted January 8 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Saffron Iguana said: It's a cost/benefit thing. It's basically never worth it as an elim to trade for a single villager unless your death was imminent regardless. Simply put, there are more elims than villagers. Any elim team that's happy to trade 1-1 with the village will lose rather quickly. Nowhere here am I saying that it was wise of v!Octo to claim. It’s not 1-1 though. The Elims would be trading 1 less kill per night that could potentially hit their people, for 1 person, and they wouldn’t even lose their nightly kill. If the Coinshot would’ve hit one Elim, that makes this a net zero(edit: it would mean the Elims get a free kill, not even, because the guy would’ve died anyways and they get a Coinshot kill), if it hits two, that makes the trade positive. And this isn’t the only reason for an Elim claiming. Stealing lurcher protection is arguably even more valuable, depending on how many there are. 2/3 people were protected, which is significant if the Elims want to make progress. And it absolutely wasn’t smart, that’s why I don’t believe, because I don’t see a single reason why claiming would be even remotely beneficial. @Scarlet Octopus why in the world did you claim? What benefit could there even be. Edited January 8 by Indigo Weasel Add the part in ()
Scarlet Octopus Posted January 8 Posted January 8 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: And it absolutely wasn’t smart, that’s why I don’t believe, because I don’t see a single reason why claiming would be even remotely beneficial. @Scarlet Octopus why in the world did you claim? What benefit could there even be. Getting me off the chopping block and explaining my suspicious actions during N1 Edited January 8 by Scarlet Octopus Spelling error
Onyx Flamingo Posted January 8 Posted January 8 2 hours ago, Ivory Dragonfly said: Because We got another saboteur! The nature of their analysis, Saffron Iguana, "I don't really have any reads rn". We got another saboteur! Anyone that wants to PM me He wasn't ready. Ah yeah Wait do flavor roles apply to PMs?
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