DoctaDajman Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Reading in the coppermind about each nation and finding updates post RoW for many but not all. I haven't read WaT but welcome all and any spoilers you can give. It may be years before I get to reading it. What is the current state of the nations on Roshar? Who is in the coalition and who is with the other side? Is it still retribution who is over the singers and fused? Are the singers and fused all the same? If you were to draw a risk board how would that look now and what magics are available where? Thanks for all the help getting me caught up!
Treamayne Posted January 1 Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, DoctaDajman said: Reading in the coppermind about each nation and finding updates post RoW for many but not all. I haven't read WaT but welcome all and any spoilers you can give. It may be years before I get to reading it. What is the current state of the nations on Roshar? Who is in the coalition and who is with the other side? Is it still retribution who is over the singers and fused? Are the singers and fused all the same? If you were to draw a risk board how would that look now and what magics are available where? Thanks for all the help getting me caught up! Countries: Spoiler Aimia - Scoured Alethkar - Retribution Alm - Retribution Azir - Coalition Babatharnam - Retribution Desh - Retribution Emul - Retribution Frostlands - Retribution Greater Hexi - Retribution Herdaz - Retribution Iri - Retribution Jah Keved - Retribution Liafor - Retribution Marabethia - Retribution Marat - Retribution Reshi Isles (Abri, Arak, Kadrix, Quili, Sumi) - Retribution Rira - Retribution Shattered Plains - Listeners Shinovar - Retribution Steen - Retribution Tashikk - Retribution Thaylenah - Retribution Triax - Retribution Tu Bayla - Retribution Tu Fallia - Retribution Tukar - Retribution Urithiru - Coalition Yezier - Retribution Yulay - Retribution SurgeBinding Spoiler Stormlight - no longer exists Towerlight - Can be used by Radiants, but only in Urithiru Warlight - Everwhere, Works for Fused, Works for Venli (possibly may work for Radiants - heavily debated topic) Voidlight - Unknown, likely gone as well Hope that helps 2
Qianweilian He/him Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Aren't there still some random microstates in the Azish Empire that weren't ever mentioned? When's the last time Alm or Desh was ever mentioned?
Schizoposting Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Qianweilian said: Aren't there still some random microstates in the Azish Empire that weren't ever mentioned? When's the last time Alm or Desh was ever mentioned? We have direct confirmation that everything except Azir, Urithiru, the Listners, and the majority of the Tai-na, is controlled by Retribution one way or another. This totals up to about 90% of Roshar. Edited January 1 by Schizoposting 2
Treamayne Posted January 1 Posted January 1 15 minutes ago, Qianweilian said: Aren't there still some random microstates in the Azish Empire that weren't ever mentioned? When's the last time Alm or Desh was ever mentioned? As @Schizoposting said - there are many countries/regions in the list never mentioned directly (Sumi, for example) - but the end (spoilers) Spoiler Was quite clear that Retribution's forces controlled everything exept as noted above. Which does not prevent a Sanderson sleight of hand in Book 6, of course.
Nitpicking Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Wouldn't this be a great time for Autonomy to send an avatar to Roshar? She just got driven off Scadrial, maybe she would shift focus ....
DoctaDajman Posted January 1 Author Posted January 1 23 minutes ago, Nitpicking said: Wouldn't this be a great time for Autonomy to send an avatar to Roshar? She just got driven off Scadrial, maybe she would shift focus .... I dont think the timeline works that way. I always was under the impression that Scadrial era 2 took place roughly 10 years after SA 1-5. Maybe it is the other way around? @Treamayne
Nitpicking Posted January 1 Posted January 1 10 minutes ago, DoctaDajman said: I dont think the timeline works that way. I always was under the impression that Scadrial era 2 took place roughly 10 years after SA 1-5. Maybe it is the other way around? @Treamayne Yes. Exactly. It'll be more decades before Book 6 of the SA. It'll feel like a much shorter time to Adolin, of course.
DoctaDajman Posted January 1 Author Posted January 1 30 minutes ago, Nitpicking said: Yes. Exactly. It'll be more decades before Book 6 of the SA. It'll feel like a much shorter time to Adolin, of course. Can Autonomy get to Roshar? I feel like I heard nothing is getting out. Is anything allowed in?
Nitpicking Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Autonomy is happy to break other people's rules. She wasn't "allowed" to interfere on Scadrial, either.
Schizoposting Posted January 1 Posted January 1 17 minutes ago, Nitpicking said: Autonomy is happy to break other people's rules. She wasn't "allowed" to interfere on Scadrial, either. Actually, she was: Quote Questioner You said Shards need permission to settle the same worlds. In Era Two, Autonomy Invests Scadrial. Did she get permission? Brandon Sanderson Autonomy has permission from before the Ascension of the Lord Ruler (there's a lore drop for you) and is coasting on that. No, she did not get permission from Harmony. You can do it... anyway. I mean, you guys knew this. They know that. Autonomy has had some dealings on Scadrial in the past, they've already known that. That's not a lore bomb for them. But I am confirming it. YouTube Spoiler Stream 7 (Dec. 19, 2025) 1
Treamayne Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) 10 hours ago, DoctaDajman said: I dont think the timeline works that way. I always was under the impression that Scadrial era 2 took place roughly 10 years after SA 1-5. Maybe it is the other way around? @Treamayne Well, we know that AoL takes place during the end of WaT - Hoid is shown interviewing for the Coachman position and it is specifically mentioned that the previous coachman drove off a cliff "killing" Edwarn and Telsin (which were the events that brought Wax back from the Roughs). We also know that the Coachman for AoL was from the country estates and was last seen outside the Ladrian Mansion when it was burning down. Hoid's first appearance as Wax's Coachman was SoS Ch 7. So, Mistborn Era 2 takes about 8 years, starting at the end of WaT. The Timeline on Roshar will be about 10ish years passing; while outside of Roshar about 80 years will pass. What we do not yet know if how much time has passed from the end of Era 2 to the beginning of Era 3. There have been a few hints, but nothing concrete. Hope that helps. Edited January 1 by Treamayne SPAG 2
alder24 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) Highstorms and Stormlight are no more, the Stormfather is dead, the Everstorm expanded and covered almost the entire planet, Pure Lake flooded the surrounding nations, Kharbranth got destroyed, Urithiru is stuck under a crystal barrier, Oathgates are no longer functional and spanreeds too, Cultivation's perpendicularity is gone as she's left the system, Odium's perpendicularity is in the Listeners' hands but nobody knows about it yet, Spren and Retribution can now leave the system, Iriali left Roshar and they are continuing their Long Trail. But hey, at least the True Desolation is over. Edit: Oh, and Roshar is stuck with a big time dilation effect around it. Edited January 1 by alder24 1
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