lacrossedeamon Posted August 18, 2025 Posted August 18, 2025 (edited) Trying to place each RPG chapter with what chapters are happening concurrently in WoR or OB. So far this is what I have come up with: Chapter 1 has a highstorm occur several days before Chapter 2 Chapter 2 starts around WoR I-7 (WoR 34/35 if where placed in book otherwise it might be starting a bit before WoR 63/64 as I can't imagine the PCs visiting the asylum much before Araman does if not after) spans multiple days to weeks including or after WoR 55 since Amaram is described as leading the Knights Radiant earliest PCs can leave the warcamps is just after WoR 58 and latest is before WoR 67 Chapter 3 set 20 days after end of Chapter 2 spans a day or two Chapter 4 happens around OB 4 because first full cycle of the Everstorm takes 15 days to reach Karanak (either a second Everstorm happens again or the first is a few days into the 15) from Karanak to Nigthwatcher's Valley takes multiple weeks (oddly unspecific since we are generally given other travel times down to the day) Chapter 5 seems to be pre OB 96 as the Eighty's War is ongoing but and Sasemalex Dar is not yet occupied but Nale is helping the Tukari and Singers which points to post OB 121 (really depends on the unspecific travel times from Karanak to Nigthwatcher's Valley and Nightwatcher's Valley to Ashiqqil Keep) (actually probably happens just before Nale goes up to the Purelake in OB 98 after consulting with Ishar) from Ashiqqil Keep to Sesemalex Dar takes 16 days a day or two spent in Sesemalex Dar from Sasemalex Dar to Rall Elorim takes 65 days Chapter 6 and 7 set possibly between OB and RoW as at least 11 Everstorms have passed in Rall Elorim for a few days Edited August 18, 2025 by lacrossedeamon 1
Jult Posted August 21, 2025 Posted August 21, 2025 Oh, we are on the same wavelength. I've been working on this too. I tried to collect my notes here, but they're kind of ramble-y and I needed to circle back and revise some dates as I went which is hard to capture and keep organized. So, they're here in this spoiler tag for people who care about showing your work. But I'd probably just advise people looking for a quick answer to skip past it and look at the table I summarized the dates in after. Spoiler Chapter 1 having a Highstorm is great because this happens during the 10-storm countdown to the Everstorm. And we have pretty confident dates around these storms. I love to use the Map of Roshar Timeline (and it's referenced spreadsheet) for stuff like this. I'll be using the Vorin calendar for dates so remember there's 5 days in a week, 10 weeks in a month, and 10 months in a year on that calendar (hopefully I don't mess that up). They place WoR I-7 around 1173.10.2.5 or in the 2 weeks that follow. But they also say the date that Shallan breaks into the asylum and meets Taln is 1173.10.6.4. And I personally don't think Amaram or the Ghostbloods would wait 4 weeks to go investigate Taln. So, I would guess that WoR I-7 is at the later end of their estimate: 10.4.5... Except that's the date that Dalinar watched Adolin duel 4 Shardbearers and Kaladin get himself thrown in prison.. So, let's go with the day before: 10.4.4 during Kaladin, Adolin, and Shallan's date night; which fits decently well since Wit arrives back in the camps on that day too and he left Kholinar at the same time as Taln and Bordin. The highstorm right before 10.4.4 is the 8th in Renarin's countdown and it took place on 10.4.1. TLDR my guess for Chapter 1 is 1173.10.4.1 which is Chapters 47-50 of WoR Chapter 2 (following the logic above) would have to take place between 10.4.4 when Taln was interrogated by Dalinar and 10.6.4 when Shallan breaks into the Asylum. Conveniently, there's not a lot happening in the books during that 2 weeks because Kaladin and Adolin are in jail. So, there's some flexibility on what day to pick. I doubt Amaram ran straight from the Arena to the Asylum though so 10.4.5 is probably a bad option. TLDR my guess for Chapter 2 is between 1173.10.5.1 and 1173.10.6.3 which is Chapters 59-62 of WoR Chapter 3 is 20 days after 2. So, between 1173.10.9.1 and 1173.10.10.3. Which is Chapters 63-88 WoR Chapter 4 is the first Everstorm, which hits Alethkar on 1.2.2. Simple enough. The Sourcebook says "15 days to sail to Karanak", but the first Everstorm must have happened in the middle of those 15 days or else you would hit a second Everstorm (a second Everstorm would hit on 1.4.1 since they come every 9 days). Well, that's fine.. 1.2.2 is nine days after our high-end estimate for Chapter 3; though it doesn't work with our low-end estimate for Chapter 3, so we'll have to revise that later. Anyway, let's say you set sail immediately after Chapter 3 so you were sailing 9ish days already when the Everstorm hit. That means 6ish days remaining to reach Karanak after the Everstorm. So, we'd arrive in Karanak around 1.3.3. And then... the duration of the voyage from Karanak to Nightwatcher's Valley is very unspecific and also variable based on how well your players roll... so.. Chapter 4 takes place from 1174.1.2.2 to [TBD based on future Chapters]. And we also have to revise the date ranges for Chapters 2 & 3 because the low-end estimates won't work. Chapter 5 is a battle in the Eighty's War which ended before 1174.2.4.1. Which gives us a whopping 12 possible weeks between the start of Chapter 4 and the latest possible start of Chapter 5. Then another 16 days of travel, 2 days of rest/prep, and 65 days of sailing. We never settled on an end date for Chapter 4. I chose to interpret the "multiple weeks" of sailing described in Chapter 4 as "4 weeks". I did this because I very roughly compared the distance of Chapter 5's 65-day voyage to the distance of the Chapter 4 voyage and it looks like a little less than a third of the distance. So, then we get to Greater Hexi on 1.7.3. Take another week there to fight Eyes and navigate overland to the Valley. Talk with the Nightwatcher sometime around 1.8.3. New dates for Chapter 4 would be 1174.1.2.2 to 1.8.3 which is Chapters 5-47 of OB Travel overland for another 2 weeks to Emul and arrive on 1.10.3 or so (at this point you'll probably have Radiants in your party who can travel pretty dang quickly). Have your battle, talk with Nale, take a couple days to rest. Depart Ashiqqil Keep on 2.1.1. Spend 16 days traveling to Sesemalex Da and arrive on 2.4.2. Spend a couple days prepping, set sail on 2.4.4. Chapters 5,6, and 7 are pretty variable depending on how Chapter 4 went. But the locations you are in are so far removed from the books that you really don't need to worry much about impacting canon. Chapter 5 would roughly fall around 1.10.3 through 2.4.2 which is Chapters 67 through 99. Arrive Rall Elorim 65 days later on 3.7.4. Spend a few days saving the world and I guess your story would finish around 1174.3.8.2. Which is after Oathbringer and before Rhythm of War. Chapters 6/7 would be around 3.7.4 through 3.8.2 which is Chapters 108 through the end of OB (but several months before Dawnshard and almost a full year before RoW). I still never fixed the low-end estimates for Chapters 2 and 3. I originally had 1 week of travel time between Chapters 1 and 2. I'd just say bump it up to 2 weeks to keep things simple. So, the final breakdown is: Chapter # Vorin Date(s) Novel Chapters Chapter 1 + Two Weeks of travel 1173.10.4.1 through 1173.10.6.1 47 through 60 WoR Chapter 2 1173.10.6.1 through 1173.10.6.3 60 through 62 WoR Four Weeks of travel + Chapter 3 1173.10.6.3 through 1173.10.10.3 63 through 88 WoR Nine days of sailing 1173.10.10.3 through 1174.1.2.2 Time between WoR and OB (also overlaps Edgedancer) Chapter 4 1174.1.2.2 through 1174.1.8.3 5 through 47 of OB Downtime then Travel to Emul (Two weeks total) 1174.1.8.3 through 1174.1.10.3 47 through 68 of OB Chapter 5 1174.1.10.3 through 1174.2.4.2 68 through 99 of OB Two days of Prep and SIXTY-FIVE Days of sailing 1174.2.4.2 through 1174.3.7.4 99 through End of OB Chapters 6/7 1174.3.7.4 through 1174.3.8.2 After OB but months before Dawnshard and nearly a year before RoW I think the timing on Chapter 2 matters the most because that's the closest you get to novel events. Also, Chapter 4 has an exact date in it because we know when the first Everstorm hit, but they built in a 15-day buffer for that, so you don't need to try very hard to keep on a schedule. For the rest of the adventure, you can play pretty loose with the timelines and not really worry about impacting canon events from the novel. The only other way I can think of to mess up timing events with the novels would be to somehow waste 12 weeks between Chapters 4 and 5 and fight a battle in the Eighty's War after it is over. 1
lacrossedeamon Posted August 23, 2025 Author Posted August 23, 2025 On 8/21/2025 at 12:10 PM, Jult said: I think the timing on Chapter 2 matters the most because that's the closest you get to novel events. Also, Chapter 4 has an exact date in it because we know when the first Everstorm hit, but they built in a 15-day buffer for that, so you don't need to try very hard to keep on a schedule. For the rest of the adventure, you can play pretty loose with the timelines and not really worry about impacting canon events from the novel. The only other way I can think of to mess up timing events with the novels would be to somehow waste 12 weeks between Chapters 4 and 5 and fight a battle in the Eighty's War after it is over. I actually talked to Jofwu about this a bit. The big issue is when WoR I-7 takes place. It is placed in novel between ch 34 and 35 but this would mean the PCs are at the least 11 days at the shortest and 25 at the most. Luckily Interludes aren't necessarily placed chronologically in the books so there is some wiggle room. Apparently in ch 63 or 64 Shallan say that Bordin arrived a few weeks ago. If we take that to mean exactly two weeks then SLSW ch 2 has to start before WoR 55. I really want to know when the PCs investigate Taln compared to Shallan/Amaram. You have the PCs doing it before but I think the interaction with Amaram makes more sense if they do it after. You mentioned you might need to revise your timeline. I think the biggest thing is you've only allowed 3 days in the warcamps and unfortunately I think it needs at least 10. I think the highstorm in SLSW ch 1 is the 7th on 10.2.5 which would then allow for the PCs to show up at the warcamps on like 10.4.2 just after the 8th highstorm. They could then spend about 2.5 weeks running errands and doing odd jobs while investigating Liss culminating in the altercation with Amaram and leaving the warcamps. 1
Jult Posted August 26, 2025 Posted August 26, 2025 On 8/22/2025 at 11:00 PM, lacrossedeamon said: You mentioned you might need to revise your timeline. I think the biggest thing is you've only allowed 3 days in the warcamps and unfortunately I think it needs at least 10. Agreed. The very last change I made was adding an extra week of travel time between the events of Chapter 1 and 2 to get the dates to line up how I wanted. I think this was a bad fix. I should have just extended the amount of time that the party spends in the Warcamps instead. So, something like this: Chapter # Vorin Date(s) Novel Chapters Chapter 1 + One Week of travel 1173.10.4.1 through 1173.10.5.1 47 through 60 WoR Chapter 2 1173.10.5.1 through 1173.10.6.3 60 through 62 WoR Four Weeks of travel + Chapter 3 1173.10.6.3 through 1173.10.10.3 63 through 88 WoR Nine days of sailing 1173.10.10.3 through 1174.1.2.2 Time between WoR and OB (also overlaps Edgedancer) Chapter 4 1174.1.2.2 through 1174.1.8.3 5 through 47 of OB Downtime then Travel to Emul (Two weeks total) 1174.1.8.3 through 1174.1.10.3 47 through 68 of OB Chapter 5 1174.1.10.3 through 1174.2.4.2 68 through 99 of OB Two days of Prep and SIXTY-FIVE Days of sailing 1174.2.4.2 through 1174.3.7.4 99 through End of OB Chapters 6/7 1174.3.7.4 through 1174.3.8.2 After OB but months before Dawnshard and nearly a year before RoW That would make the highstorm in Chapter 1 the 8th Highstorm on 10.4.1. I'd still place WoR I-7 on 10.4.4. Meaning Bordin and company took 3 days to finish their journey to the camps after the events of Chapter 1. That's consistent with the Shallan quote you gave and it's the day Wit arrives back in the camps as well. I know Wit took a slight detour, but I'd speculate he has some speedier ways of getting around. And then the PCs can show up 2 days later on 10.5.1. I'm personally trying pretty hard to show up in the warcamps after 10.4.5 because that is the day of Adolin's duel. I feel it simplifies things a bit to do this because: There's no way my party would miss that show if they had a chance to attend. I think many of the NPCs in Chapter 2 would have gone to watch the duel. Amaram absolutely was there. There's a nice little lull in novel events here since Kaladin and Adolin are in prison. So, there's not much to keep track of. On 8/22/2025 at 11:00 PM, lacrossedeamon said: I really want to know when the PCs investigate Taln compared to Shallan/Amaram. You have the PCs doing it before but I think the interaction with Amaram makes more sense if they do it after. I've really been trying to pin down the order of events here. In WoR Chapter 58 (10.4.5), Dalinar argues with Kaladin for challenging Amaram post-duel. Kaladin convinces his to look into Amaram again. In WoR Chapter 60 (10.6.1), Navani sends Shallan a letter saying Dalinar has fallen ill and is taking time to recover. We later find out that this was a ruse to cover the time Dalinar spent bonding the cleaver Shardblade that Taln arrived in Camp Kholin with. It sounds like he's already been "sick" for a few days, but we aren't given any exact numbers. 10.6.1 could very well be his last "sick" day if he started bonding the Shardblade if he started bonding it the day after speaking with Kaladin. Whenever Dalinar finished bonding the blade (presumably between 10.6.1 and 10.6.4) he had it hidden in a cave and had Bordin spread rumors that Taln spoke of a hidden cache of Shardblades. Amaram made arrangements to see Taln in person because he wanted to verify the rumors. The Ghostbloods found out about these arrangements while spying on the Sons of Honor. And both groups paid sneaky visits to Taln on 10.6.4. At some point afterwards, Amaram went and took the Shardblade from the cavern, but pinning down what day this happened is hard. Amaram shows up to the feast in WoR-67 on 10.8.2 and tells Dalinar he's "still investigating". On 10.8.5, Amaram lies and says the Investigation turned up nothing. Dalinar knows this is a lie and calls him out on it on the same day, revealing his ruse. The reason I think the PCs run into Amaram before he visits Taln is because I suspect Amaram departs for the cave rather immediately after visiting Taln. He seemed very eager to go get the Shardblade and had every excuse to since Dalinar sent him on an "official" mission to verify "Taln's claims". Although a good counterpoint is that if he had picked the cleaver Shardblade up any day before 10.7.5, he (or some other Son of Honor) would have had time to bond the blade before his confrontation with Dalinar. 1
lacrossedeamon Posted August 27, 2025 Author Posted August 27, 2025 On 8/25/2025 at 11:11 PM, Jult said: The reason I think the PCs run into Amaram before he visits Taln is because I suspect Amaram departs for the cave rather immediately after visiting Taln. He seemed very eager to go get the Shardblade and had every excuse to since Dalinar sent him on an "official" mission to verify "Taln's claims". I don't think it happens on the same day. I think Amaram visits Taln and the cave and then afterwards has someone keeping an eye on Taln to report if anyone else is sniffing around which leads to the altercation with the PCs. I did also note the lack of mentioning the duel in the RPG but I think it could still happen after the PCs arrive at the warcamps but only in the first few days while they are still getting their bearings. Additionally it could also happen while they are in the chasms for the Chasm Offensive scene which could be a multi day excursion. I don't get why you are having the PCs show up separately from Taln though? They are part of the same caravan. It feels too much trying to force a square peg into a round hole.
Jult Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 1 hour ago, lacrossedeamon said: I don't think it happens on the same day. I think Amaram visits Taln and the cave and then afterwards has someone keeping an eye on Taln to report if anyone else is sniffing around which leads to the altercation with the PCs. I did also note the lack of mentioning the duel in the RPG but I think it could still happen after the PCs arrive at the warcamps but only in the first few days while they are still getting their bearings. Additionally it could also happen while they are in the chasms for the Chasm Offensive scene which could be a multi day excursion. I don't get why you are having the PCs show up separately from Taln though? They are part of the same caravan. It feels too much trying to force a square peg into a round hole. Oh, that's probably specific to me, but my PCs are very untrusting toward Alethi soldiers. They wanted nothing to do with Bordin and company. So, they followed the caravan at a distance rather than joining it. Still, I agree the 2-day gap I have is too large. The PCs probably would arrive around the same day as Taln. That just leaves awkwardness around the timing of the duel. I was just trying to avoid that altogether by shoehorning some extra days in, but you're right - it'd be better to keep them occupied with some of the side missions while the duel is happening.
lacrossedeamon Posted August 31, 2025 Author Posted August 31, 2025 On 8/27/2025 at 9:44 AM, Jult said: Oh, that's probably specific to me, but my PCs are very untrusting toward Alethi soldiers. They wanted nothing to do with Bordin and company. So, they followed the caravan at a distance rather than joining it. Still, I agree the 2-day gap I have is too large. The PCs probably would arrive around the same day as Taln. That just leaves awkwardness around the timing of the duel. I was just trying to avoid that altogether by shoehorning some extra days in, but you're right - it'd be better to keep them occupied with some of the side missions while the duel is happening. Oh yeah then that makes sense. I was coming more from the perspective of encyclopedic writing for the coppermind. Like on Taln's page does it make more sense to mention the PCs meeting with him before or after Shallan and Amaram? Does the Nale interaction happen before or after he takes Szeth from the Purelake to Thaylen field? Etc.
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