+Oltux72 he/him Posted October 6, 2025 Posted October 6, 2025 6 hours ago, Jult said: Defeating Taravangian wouldn't necessarily be the end of the Storms. Someone kinder could take up Honor and/or Odium instead. It's not like the Shards would completely disappear. They'd just change hands again. "necessarily" is not a base for a sound policy. You are proposing that they refight a war they already lost against a coalition that is stronger without a ready source of Investiture while breaking a peace treaty with a Shard without a Shard on their side while a victory may or may not destroy the world I am sorry, but that is not a viable policy. 1
Jult Posted October 6, 2025 Posted October 6, 2025 49 minutes ago, Oltux72 said: "necessarily" is not a base for a sound policy. You are proposing that they refight a war they already lost against a coalition that is stronger without a ready source of Investiture while breaking a peace treaty with a Shard without a Shard on their side while a victory may or may not destroy the world I am sorry, but that is not a viable policy. I think you missed the entire point of the Sunmaker's Gambit. I'd maybe re-read the epilogue for WaT. It's no longer just Roshar vs Retribution. It's the entire Cosmere vs Retribution. Hoid said now is Roshar's best chance to act. I'm proposing that They continue to fight a war now that entire planets of reinforcements are coming Against a coalition that is greatly divided With many potential options for replacing Stormlight (and many resources like the Unoathed who don't even need Stormlight) While breaking a "treaty" that's largely stacked in favor of the bad guy With up to TEN Shards on their side (Ambition, Devotion, Dominion, and Virtuosity are dead) While a victory would almost certainly not destroy their world because it would end with a good guy holding the Shards 1
+Oltux72 he/him Posted October 7, 2025 Posted October 7, 2025 17 hours ago, Jult said: I think you missed the entire point of the Sunmaker's Gambit. I'd maybe re-read the epilogue for WaT. It's no longer just Roshar vs Retribution. It's the entire Cosmere vs Retribution. Hoid said now is Roshar's best chance to act. I'm proposing that They continue to fight a war now that entire planets of reinforcements are coming Those forces, if they came, would not just come nicely, kindly help the Rosharans and then depart peacefully. The Rosharans would be lucky if such a force wouldn't just see Roshar as a whole as the problem. And in that case they would not just depart and return the territories they just spent blood to conquer to the natives.
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