Shardmetals and Fortune, Connection, Identity, and Investiture [Discuss]

[Armadillo]

In Bands of Mourning, Vendell calls to attention Fortune, Connection, Identity, and Investiture. It seems like these are the Big 4 "things" in the Cosmere (idk what to call them).

In Dawnshard, the mural of Adonalsium is shattered into four, then those four into sixteen. Could we group the Allomantic properties of all God Metals into groups of four like the regular Allomancy chart, with quadrant having some kind of control over or relationship with one of the four things Vendell was talking about?

Solid Evidence:
- Atium gives the burner access to Fortune/Destiny. (And Malatium lets you see another person's potential Destiny)
- Lerasium seems to have some control over Identity by overwriting Spiritual DNA (making someone Mistborn)
- Raysium conducts Investiture. (That's like the only thing we know about it, as far as I know)

Potential Evidence/Weird Ones:
- "Edglium" is probably what the Investiture-consuming Nightblood is made of.*
- Tanavastium:
My guess is that this is another Identity one. The shape and design of each Shardblade is unique, probably shaped by both the Radiant and the Spren.** Also, Shardblades sever things on all three realms... although now that I think about it, it doesn't sever Spiritwebs because otherwise they couldn't be healed from. 
It could possibly be tied to Connection. Radiants form Connections with Spren, which manifest themselves in the Physical Realm as Tanavastium. Adolin's Connection to his blade seems to be what is helping Maya heal. Radiants are able to signal to their Spren what they need them to become through their bond.
- Trellium repels Investiture and its Hemalurgic chimeras seem to be robbed of Identity
- Harmonium stores allomantic abilities (Investiture or Identity?)

 

*WoB:

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Forger (paraphrased)

Is Nightblood and Azure's sword made of the same material?

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

Not anymore.

Forger (paraphrased)

Is Nightblood made of a normal metal?

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

It is not.

Forger (paraphrased)

Is he made of Dragonsteel?

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

Good question. He is not.

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/538/#e16660

**WaT Spoilers:

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Kaladin's "Honorspear" is notably a different design than his Sylspear, iirc. This is probably because it's just his and not something that he shares with Syl.

 

If this is true, we might have our four Investiture metals already:

Raysium: Conducts Investiture
Trellium: Repels Investiture
Harmonium: Stores Investiture
Edglium: Consumes Investiture

Although, Harmonium is a di-shardic metal, so it wouldn't count on the 16-section chart

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

10 minutes ago, Armadillo said:

In Bands of Mourning, Vendell calls to attention Fortune, Connection, Identity, and Investiture. It seems like these are the Big 4 "things" in the Cosmere (idk what to call them).

In Dawnshard, the mural of Adonalsium is shattered into four, then those four into sixteen. Could we group the Allomantic properties of all God Metals into groups of four like the regular Allomancy chart, with quadrant having some kind of control over or relationship with one of the four things Vendell was talking about?

Solid Evidence:
- Atium gives the burner access to Fortune/Destiny. (And Malatium lets you see another person's potential Destiny)
- Lerasium seems to have some control over Identity by overwriting Spiritual DNA (making someone Mistborn)
- Raysium conducts Investiture. (That's like the only thing we know about it, as far as I know)

Potential Evidence/Weird Ones:
- "Edglium" is probably what the Investiture-consuming Nightblood is made of.*
- Tanavastium:
My guess is that this is another Identity one. The shape and design of each Shardblade is unique, probably shaped by both the Radiant and the Spren.** Also, Shardblades sever things on all three realms... although now that I think about it, it doesn't sever Spiritwebs because otherwise they couldn't be healed from. 
It could possibly be tied to Connection. Radiants form Connections with Spren, which manifest themselves in the Physical Realm as Tanavastium. Adolin's Connection to his blade seems to be what is helping Maya heal. Radiants are able to signal to their Spren what they need them to become through their bond.
- Trellium repels Investiture and its Hemalurgic chimeras seem to be robbed of Identity
- Harmonium stores allomantic abilities (Investiture or Identity?)

 

*WoB:

**WaT Spoilers:

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Kaladin's "Honorspear" is notably a different design than his Sylspear, iirc. This is probably because it's just his and not something that he shares with Syl.

 

A few comments: Do we really know what harmonium does? Harmonium is also a combined shard, so that could change some things. You also can heal from spiritweb. There is a WoB about it, but I can't find it. I'm pretty sure healing works by using your identity as a 'blueprint' for your body, and then makes the body look like the identity.

Otherwise, this is all really cool! Keep up the good work!

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[Armadillo]

2 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Do we really know what harmonium does? Harmonium is also a combined shard, so that could change some things

Yeah true, that's why I put in in "weird" haha. It wouldn't even be put on a chart of the 16 base God Metals, but I just felt like including it since we know about it. It is a bit of a hole in my theory, huh?

5 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

You also can heal from spiritweb. There is a WoB about it, but I can't find it. I'm pretty sure healing works by using your identity as a 'blueprint' for your body, and then makes the body look like the identity.

Are you saying that Shardblades do or do not cut spiritwebs? Also, is the the WoB you're thinking of?

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I notice that Stormlight seems to be a bit volatile in how well it heals or who it heals. Because it seems like Renarin's eyesight would have been a long term problem, kinda like Rysn's legs maybe and Lopen's arm. But Lopen's arm got healed, Rysn's legs didn't and Kaladin's scars didn't. So I didn't know if there was a reason for those things.

Brandon Sanderson

So Stormlight healing, there's a couple things that have to be considered. But in reference to what you're saying, the person's perception of themselves is a huge part of it.  The way healing works in the cosmere is, you've got the three versions of yourself. You've got your Physical version, your Cognitive version, and your Spiritual version, and a lot of Stormlight is taking your Physical version and matching it to the Spiritual version which is your ideal self.  But it has to be filtered through the lens of your mind, and things like this.

I almost always--probably should say always--am using it to reinforce some sort of character attribute. The fact that Lopen never saw himself, even though he only had one arm, as being disabled, as a big influence, versus whether Kaladin feels deserves his brands or not. Does that makes sense?  And those are two very different things that influence how the healing works. And you will see that as a metaphor and theme, if you watch what heals and what doesn't.

Orem signing (March 10, 2018)

This quote might actually help my case. If Shardblades sever all three realms of something, is that not affecting something's Identity?

[Treamayne]

55 minutes ago, Armadillo said:

In Bands of Mourning, Vendell calls to attention Fortune, Connection, Identity, and Investiture. It seems like these are the Big 4 "things" in the Cosmere (idk what to call them).

Fortune, Connection, and Identity are Spiritual Realm Traits (like strength and senses are physical realm traits, and emotion is a cognitive realm trait); all Shards deal with all of those traits, though in differing amounts each (which is why Preservation was better at Futuresight than Ruin - Preservation had greater acces to Fortune due to the Shard's intent; Ruin had limited access to Fortune due to that Shardic intent). 

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Jeremy (paraphrased)

When Honor speaks of his inability to see the future, he likens it to a shattering window. Is this related to the fact that in the not-too-distant future, he himself will be splintered? Or is it more a matter of Intent; e.g., Cultivation (and Preservation?) is geared toward future development, whereas Honor is geared toward current behavior.

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

This is not related to his impending Splintering, it is a matter of differing Intents.

When Worlds Collide 2014 (Aug. 9, 2014)

 

 

38 minutes ago, Armadillo said:

This quote might actually help my case. If Shardblades sever all three realms of something, is that not affecting something's Identity?

Shardblades cut living beings Spiritually (not all three realms, which is why somebody blade-dead has burnt-out eyes, but no physical wounds) and do not affect Identity. Healing a Blade Wounds is accomplished by using investiture to "graft" a patch repairing/replacing the damaged section (it's a bit unclear because the WoB is discussing both Shardblade Wounds and Hemalurgy, but the damage each causes is different - Blades sever the Spiritweb but don;t remove anything, Hemalurgy ripps a chunk of the spiritweb and removes it). 

Nightblood is the one that cuts on all three realms - which is why things destroyed by Nightblood dissolve into smoke (with the only known exception being Rayse's Corpse because Nightblood had consumed too much investiture to finish consuming Rayse). 

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Kurkistan

So you've said that healing is like the Spiritual wants to heal and then it filters through the Cognitive, but how's that work with healing wounds to the soul like Hemalurgy or Shardblades? What do you refer to to heal the soul at that point?

Brandon Sanderson

You need to make a patch on the soul with Investiture.

Kurkistan

So how's the Investiture know where to go, what to look like?

Brandon Sanderson

Well your soul is an ideal. So if you can get it up there, there are ways to do-- to recreate that with um... See I'm getting into stuff for later books.

Argent

No, that's okay.

Kurkistan

So when Hemalurgy rips something off the soul, is that the ideal soul or some sub-soul?

Brandon Sanderson

That is off of your soul, and it can be healed; but what it's going to be doing is creating a patch of new soul. So it will not be your original soul. Does that make sense?

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Warbreaker Ch 56:

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He spun toward the charging Lifeless and—enraged—attacked.

Each creature he struck with the blade immediately flashed and became smoke. A single scratch and the bodies dissolved like paper being consumed by an invisible fire, leaving behind only a large stain of blackness in the air. Vasher spun among them, striking with wrath, killing Lifeless after Lifeless. Black smoke churned around him

 

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uchoo786

I know that Nightblood is technically a shardblade (invested sword), but can one use it without being bonded to a Spren since on Roshar the only way to breathe is stormlight and use it is by being bonded to a spren? Would Nightblood also work like a shardblade, in that it severs the soul instead of consuming it when it touches a person?

Brandon Sanderson

Remember that the Honorblades do not require one to be bonded to a spren to use, or gain access to powers. Nightblood goes one step further, vaporizing and destroying on all three realms.

/r/books AMA 2015 (May 18, 2015)

 

Hope that helps

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

2 hours ago, Armadillo said:

Yeah true, that's why I put in in "weird" haha. It wouldn't even be put on a chart of the 16 base God Metals, but I just felt like including it since we know about it. It is a bit of a hole in my theory, huh?

Are you saying that Shardblades do or do not cut spiritwebs? Also, is the the WoB you're thinking of?

This quote might actually help my case. If Shardblades sever all three realms of something, is that not affecting something's Identity?

There was a WoB about miles that I can't find. It was about f-gold and the spirit web. But all that does check out!

[Treamayne]

1 hour ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

There was a WoB about miles that I can't find. It was about f-gold and the spirit web. But all that does check out!

These WoBs (Hemalurgy Damage)?

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Kurkistan

Could Miles heal back his Allomancy if it was spiked out of him?

Brandon Sanderson

No, he could not. He would no longer be an Allomancer. Also, he'd probably be dead.

Kurkistan

Thanks!

I'd thought maybe he could just do some super-tapping from his existing Health in his goldminds (since he'd still have his Feruchemy)...

Brandon Sanderson

Oh, I see what you're asking. Using Feruchemy to heal the removed portion of soul. That's actually plausible, not so different from healing other kinds of soul-wounds. If he survived, then yes, this actually might work. (That's why I get for reading the questions so quickly.)

Goodreads: Ask the Author Q&A (Aug. 13, 2014)

 

 

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Kurkistan

If you spiked out Miles' Feruchemical gold, would he be able to burn his Allomantic reserves [read: Feruchemical reserves using Allomancy] and heal it back?

Brandon Sanderson

If you spiked out his ability to heal gold and somehow left him alive?

Kurkistan

Yeah, but still having Allomancy.

Brandon Sanderson

Still has Allomancy...

Kurkistan

And he’s like in the middle of burning a goldmind.

Brandon Sanderson

Yes, that would still work. It'd still have a Spiritual Connection to him.

Kurkistan

So if you're a Coinshot and you get [spiked] to have Feruchemical steel, and then you lose the spike after making a store, you can still Compound that for speed?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes... Yeah, that should still work.

Kurkistan

Was Paalm doing that?

Brandon Sanderson

That's a RAFO.

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[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

21 minutes ago, Treamayne said:

These WoBs (Hemalurgy Damage)?

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Yeah those

[Armadillo]

@Treamayne, you're a legend haha. Thanks for clearing some stuff up.

It's interesting that Preservation leaned more towards Fortune (are Fortune and Destiny different?) than Ruin, since Ruin's metal grants Allomancers a bit of futuresight.

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

1 minute ago, Armadillo said:

@Treamayne, you're a legend haha. Thanks for clearing some stuff up.

It's interesting that Preservation leaned more towards Fortune (are Fortune and Destiny different?) than Ruin, since Ruin's metal grants Allomancers a bit of futuresight.

I don't think fortune and destiny are different. And yes, almost every thread question I have posted (lots of theories) @Treamayne has commented on and cleared up. the Ultimate cosmere obsessor. I think he's following like every cosmere forum or something.

I'm not sure about that Fortune/Destiny thing actually. the coppermind's article on Fortune hints at destiny being different but there is no article on destiny, so who knows.

[Treamayne]

7 minutes ago, Armadillo said:

@Treamayne, you're a legend haha. Thanks for clearing some stuff up.

It's interesting that Preservation leaned more towards Fortune (are Fortune and Destiny different?) than Ruin, since Ruin's metal grants Allomancers a bit of futuresight.

The key there is that Ruin's E1Atium is a very short and limited glimpse at Fortune (Futuresight) and lends itself to combat (therefore destruction/Ruin). The intent of Ruin does not lend itself to the Future because it wanst entropy and destruction . . . things to not exist in the future. Preservation's Intent lends itself to using Fortune for Futuresight because Preservation is all about keeping things and Preserving them for the Future.

1 minute ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

7 minutes ago, Armadillo said:

(are Fortune and Destiny different?)

I don't think fortune and destiny are different. And yes, almost every thread question I have posted (lots of theories) @Treamayne has commented on and cleared up. the Ultimate cosmere obsessor. I think he's following like every cosmere forum or something.

I'm not sure about that Fortune/Destiny thing actually. the coppermind's article on Fortune hints at destiny being different but there is no article on destiny, so who knows.

We don't know for certain. We only have one RAFO WoB - but keep in mind that those comments are in-world because Scadrians in Era 2 don't even really understand how they work yet.

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Wyndlerunner

Along the lines of chromium, according to the new Hemalurgy table, they "might steal destiny." Is destiny Fortune, or is it something new?

Brandon Sanderson

RAFO.

Orem Signing (March 16, 2019)

 

Edited April 4, 2025 by Treamayne
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[Armadillo]

Oh interesting...

Wow I never would have made that connection. That does explain why Cultivation was able to manipulate Taravangian the way she did and was so confident about it. I assumed all Shards had the same ability.

[Treamayne]

6 minutes ago, Armadillo said:

Oh interesting...

Wow I never would have made that connection. That does explain why Cultivation was able to manipulate Taravangian the way she did and was so confident about it. I assumed all Shards had the same ability.

Each Shard has Strengths and Limitations, just as some Vessels are also better or worse and understanding and interpreting what they see with Fortune:

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Shardbound

We've seen different Shards have different prophetic abilities--

Brandon Sanderson

Yes.  

Shardbound

Is this a result of the Shard itself, the wielder, or a combination of the two.

Brandon Sanderson

More the Shard.

Shadows of Self London UK signing (Oct. 19, 2015)

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Questioner

Is the ability to foretell the future, we know that some Shardholders are better at that than others, is that dependent on the Shard or the holders.

Brandon Sanderson

On the Shards. No, let me say both.

Questioner

Both?

Brandon Sanderson

Yeah. Because your own-- yeah.

White Sand vol.1 Orem signing (June 29, 2016)

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Questioner

In Mistborn, Ruin could talk to you when you were Hemalurgically spiked, and Preservation could hear you. Do other Shards have different abilities?

Brandon Sanderson

It varies, but yes. But that was related to the way they created people.

Kraków signing (March 21, 2017)

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Questioner

So I'm wondering, how omniscient are the Vessels?

Brandon Sanderson

This is a difficult question to answer because they don't know everything, but they could theoretically. And so, the actual Vessel needs to apply the power and learn things. And they don't know the future exactly. Particularly, you'll notice some hints of this in Oathbringer. There are certain things that really foul with their ability to see the future. It's whenever we kind of get the equivalence of an atium shadow right? Reflection that reflects that someone sees the future, and then suddenly you end up with this kind of difficult chain to follow.

Questioner

Can you tell me who might be the most all-knowing out of all of them?

Brandon Sanderson

I will say the older they are the more they generally know.

Questioner

So probably not Harmony then?

Brandon Sanderson

Probably not Harmony.

The Great American Read: Other Worlds with Brandon Sanderson (Oct. 25, 2018)

 

 

13 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

@Treamayne has commented on and cleared up. the Ultimate cosmere obsessor. I think he's following like every cosmere forum or something.

Nope. I actually don;t "follow" any threads or topics. I do, however, peruse new posts in Casmere and Spoiler Zone 2-3 times a day - and if I see questions I can answer, I try to do so. I have the ebooks on my Computer in Calibre, which makes searching for text much easier - and I have been searching WoBs and Coppermind long enough to know the tricks to finding what I need (which is why I wrote the Sharder FAQ)

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[Armadillo]

Like I said... legendary. Thanks for your help!

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

4 minutes ago, Treamayne said:

Each Shard has Strengths and Limitations, just as some Vessels are also better or worse and understanding and interpreting what they see with Fortune:

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Nope. I actually don;t "follow" any threads or topics. I do, however, peruse new posts in Casmere and Spoiler Zone 2-3 times a day - and if I see questions I can answer, I try to do so. I have the ebooks on my Computer in Calibre, which makes searching for text much easier - and I have been searching WoBs and Coppermind long enough to know the tricks to finding what I need (which is why I wrote the Sharder FAQ)

See what I mean? Absolute Legend. I dare you to find a post that he has not answered to the best of his ability (Unless it was in Roleplaying)

[Treamayne]

5 minutes ago, Armadillo said:

Like I said... legendary. Thanks for your help!

 

4 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

See what I mean? Absolute Legend. I dare you to find a post that he has not answered to the best of his ability (Unless it was in Roleplaying)

I'm not the only one - @alder24 does the same, and both better and more frequently than I.

For me, it helps me to learn and memorize the Realmatics (by repeatedly looking it up and writing the information - I am a Kinetic learner and find it hard to learn by reading/listening alone)

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

4 minutes ago, Treamayne said:

 

I'm not the only one - @alder24 does the same, and both better and more frequently than I.

For me, it helps me to learn and memorize the Realmatics (by repeatedly looking it up and writing the information - I am a Kinetic learner and find it hard to learn by reading/listening alone)

What are realmatics? All I have memorized are the Ferring and Misting Names, Metals, and effects.

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[Treamayne]

9 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

What are realmatics?

Realmatics is the Cosmere term for the underlying aspects of how Investiture and Magic work throughout all of the Books. For example:

• Why Steel is an External Pushing Metal for Allomancy, and can "Push" Spore growth on Lumar, and creates Repulsing Fabrials on Roshar when a Steel cage is used with a Gemstone.
• How Command is not just a part of Nalthian Awakening, but is part of how Soulcasters function (commanding the Change) and also was the part of the Reverse Lashing Kaladin didn't understand until RoW (See below)

Fortune, Connection, Identity, Command, Intent, etc. there are all fundamental Realmatic processes - not every Manifestation of Investiture uses all of the aspects, but they all will use some combination of these fundamentals.

RoW Ch 49:

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Windrunners had three varieties of Lashings. Most commonly he used the gravitational Lashing, where you infused an object or person and changed the direction gravity pulled them. But there were two others. He’d tested a Full Lashing while carrying Teft to the clinic during the invasion. That Lashing allowed you to infuse an object with Light and command it to stick to anything that touched it. He’d used it during his early days as a bridgeman to stick rocks to a chasm wall.

The last Lashing was the most strange and arcane of the three. The Reverse Lashing made something attract other objects. It was like a hybrid of the other two. You infused a surface, then commanded it to pull on specific items. They were drawn to it. As if … as if the object you infused had become the source of gravity. As a bridgeman, Kaladin had unknowingly used this Lashing to pull arrows through the air to his bridge, making them swerve to miss his friends.

“What you call ‘Lashings,’” Syl said to him, “are really two Surges working together. Gravitation and Adhesion, combined in different ways. You say Gravitation Lashings don’t work, and Adhesion ones do. What about a Reverse Lashing?”

“Haven’t tried,” Kaladin admitted. He stepped to the side and drew the Stormlight out of a different lantern. He felt the energy, the power, in his veins—something he’d been yearning for. He smiled and stepped back, alight with power.

“Try making the glass attract the latch,” Syl said, gesturing. “If you can get the latch to move toward you, it will pop out and unlock.”

He touched the side of the lantern housing. During the last year, he’d practiced his Lashings. Sigzil had monitored, making him do experiments, as usual. They’d found that a Reverse Lashing required a command—or at least a visualization of what you wanted. As he infused the glass, he tried to imagine the Stormlight attracting things.

No, not things. The latch specifically.

The Stormlight resisted. As with the basic gravitational Lashing, he could feel the power, but something blocked it. However, the blockage was weaker here. He concentrated, pushing harder, and—like a floodgate opening—the Light suddenly burst from him. A Reverse Lashing didn’t glow as brightly as it should, considering the Stormlight. It was kind of inverted, in a way. But Kaladin’s actions were followed by a faint click.

Hope that helps

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[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

2 minutes ago, Treamayne said:

Realmatics is the Cosmere term for the underlying aspects of how Investiture and Magic work throughout all of the Books. For example:

• Why Steel is an External Pushing Metal for Allomancy, and can "Push" Spore growth on Lumar, and creates Repulsing Fabrials on Roshar when a Steel cage is used with a Gemstone.
• How Command is not just a part of Nalthian Awakening, but is part of how Soulcasters function (commanding the Change) and also was the part of the Reverse Lashing Kaladin didn't understand until RoW (See below)

Fortune, Connection, Identity, Command, Intent, etc. there are all fundamental Realmatic processes - not every Manifestation of Investiture uses all of teh aspects, but they all will use some combination of these fundamentals.

RoW Ch 49:

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Windrunners had three varieties of Lashings. Most commonly he used the gravitational Lashing, where you infused an object or person and changed the direction gravity pulled them. But there were two others. He’d tested a Full Lashing while carrying Teft to the clinic during the invasion. That Lashing allowed you to infuse an object with Light and command it to stick to anything that touched it. He’d used it during his early days as a bridgeman to stick rocks to a chasm wall.

The last Lashing was the most strange and arcane of the three. The Reverse Lashing made something attract other objects. It was like a hybrid of the other two. You infused a surface, then commanded it to pull on specific items. They were drawn to it. As if … as if the object you infused had become the source of gravity. As a bridgeman, Kaladin had unknowingly used this Lashing to pull arrows through the air to his bridge, making them swerve to miss his friends.

“What you call ‘Lashings,’” Syl said to him, “are really two Surges working together. Gravitation and Adhesion, combined in different ways. You say Gravitation Lashings don’t work, and Adhesion ones do. What about a Reverse Lashing?”

“Haven’t tried,” Kaladin admitted. He stepped to the side and drew the Stormlight out of a different lantern. He felt the energy, the power, in his veins—something he’d been yearning for. He smiled and stepped back, alight with power.

“Try making the glass attract the latch,” Syl said, gesturing. “If you can get the latch to move toward you, it will pop out and unlock.”

He touched the side of the lantern housing. During the last year, he’d practiced his Lashings. Sigzil had monitored, making him do experiments, as usual. They’d found that a Reverse Lashing required a command—or at least a visualization of what you wanted. As he infused the glass, he tried to imagine the Stormlight attracting things.

No, not things. The latch specifically.

The Stormlight resisted. As with the basic gravitational Lashing, he could feel the power, but something blocked it. However, the blockage was weaker here. He concentrated, pushing harder, and—like a floodgate opening—the Light suddenly burst from him. A Reverse Lashing didn’t glow as brightly as it should, considering the Stormlight. It was kind of inverted, in a way. But Kaladin’s actions were followed by a faint click.

Hope that helps

Then how do you memorize them? Is there a spreadsheet or smth you use?

[Treamayne]

8 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Then how do you memorize them? Is there a spreadsheet or smth you use?

Maybe memorize was the wrong term. I'm sorry. I memorize what information is available and how to find it. We discuss those things in these forums so we can understand what might be implied by what we have learned. For example - how Investiture is a third axis of reality is a memorizable WoB:

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Kurkistan

If Investiture can neither be created nor destroyed, and Feruchemy is all fueled by the Feruchemist himself, then how do metalminds end up being invested without Feruchemists seeming to suffer any long-term loss of Investiture? If they're not "creating" the energy that's going into the metalminds, then where's it coming from?

Brandon Sanderson

The cosmere takes physics from our universe, and adds additional layers to it. Where we have energy and matter (simplified), the cosmere has additional building blocks that make reality. Investiture is one of these. It IS possible to change matter, to energy, to investiture, and back.

/r/books AMA 2015 (June 5, 2015)

Understanding that the Mists on Scadrial are investiture in a non-Matter gaseous state, while Shardblades are Investiture changing forms into a Solid matter state (thourgh Deposition - which is why they have condensate when they appear) comes from a combination of WoBs and much discussion (and some disagreement).

For visual Learners, you can do something like read the Coppermind Intent article or search for all WoBs tagged with #Intent. I have done both of those, but I don't really assimilate the data until I start collecting it and answering questions about it or discussing it, because the act of putting it together and explaining it is what helps me remember and understand.

I hope that makes sense.

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[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

19 minutes ago, Treamayne said:

Maybe memorize was the wrong term. I'm sorry. I memorize what information is available and how to find it. We discuss those things in these forums so we can understand what might be implied by what we have learned. For example - how Investiture is a third axis of reality is a memorizable WoB:

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Kurkistan

If Investiture can neither be created nor destroyed, and Feruchemy is all fueled by the Feruchemist himself, then how do metalminds end up being invested without Feruchemists seeming to suffer any long-term loss of Investiture? If they're not "creating" the energy that's going into the metalminds, then where's it coming from?

Brandon Sanderson

The cosmere takes physics from our universe, and adds additional layers to it. Where we have energy and matter (simplified), the cosmere has additional building blocks that make reality. Investiture is one of these. It IS possible to change matter, to energy, to investiture, and back.

/r/books AMA 2015 (June 5, 2015)

Understanding that the Mists on Scadrial are investiture in a non-Matter gaseous state, while Shardblades are Investiture changing forms into a Solid matter state (thourgh Deposition - which is why they have condensate when they appear) comes from a combination of WoBs and much discussion (and some disagreement).

For visual Learners, you can do something like read the Coppermind Intent article or search for all WoBs tagged with #Intent. I have done both of those, but I don't really assimilate the data until I start collecting it and answering questions about it or discussing it, because the act of putting it together and explaining it is what helps me remember and understand.

I hope that makes sense.

Yes, it does. I will cheeck those out, thank you.