Passive Fused Abilities (Plus specifically the Fannah-im)

[Teravangian]

Thus far, we've seen each order of fused use passive abilities that do not use up investiture, such as the heavenly ones being able to fly indefinitely without using up their light. Their are only two orders we don't know a passive ability for: the altered ones, and the devastating ones. That said the altered ones may not have a passive ability. Below I have the passive abilities of each fused type:

Heavenly Ones - Single Lashing Flight

Devastating Ones - Unknown (depictions show burning skin though)

Magnified Ones - Growing their carapace

Flowing Ones - Making themselves slick

Masked Ones - Putting false faces on themselves

Altered Ones - Unknown (theory)

Deepest Ones - Phasing

Focused Ones - Tightening belts

All that said, we can guess at what the Devastating Ones abilities will be. They appear to be swathed in burning ash in the WaT depiction. Altered ones, who knows if they have a passive ability. I think it's possible though, because of something Raboniel does. She breaths out a toxic compound at one point. Why breath it out? Why not soulcast the air in front of her into the compound? I'd guess that maybe the Fannah-im can soulcast things they physically are touching. If they ran their can across a surface for example they could soulcast what they touch. I don't know, just thoughts. Do you think they have a passive ability at all?

[Treamayne]

2 hours ago, Teravangian said:

Altered ones, who knows if they have a passive ability. I think it's possible though, because of something Raboniel does. She breaths out a toxic compound at one point. Why breath it out? Why not soulcast the air in front of her into the compound? I'd guess that maybe the Fannah-im can soulcast things they physically are touching. If they ran their can across a surface for example they could soulcast what they touch. I don't know, just thoughts. Do you think they have a passive ability at all?

Soulcasting requires changing the Spiritual nature of what is to be Soulcast, and I doubt that can be done without expending Investiture. Another aspect of the passive abilities is that they always only affect somethign about the fused themselves (e. g. Heavenly ones must use Voidlight to lash somebody or somethign else - even a single lashing). For Fannah-im - it's the Surge of Transformation. I would guess the passive ability is to always see/sense Shadesmar and the Physical realm at teh same time - so while Jasnah, Venli or Shallan must be holding light to "peek" into Shadesmar, Raboniel either sees it all of the time, or withever she wants (which would explain why she so-easily discovered Sibling communicating through the Garnet Veins). 

[Teravangian]

I would object that every surge changes the spiritual nature of things, ie gravitation changing an objects spiritual orientation. That said, you may be right about the shadesmar thing. That seems more centered around the surgebinder anyway.

[Treamayne]

3 hours ago, Teravangian said:

I would object that every surge changes the spiritual nature of things

I did not say "every surge" I said Soulcasting.  Soulcasting works because the Radiant is, mechanically, rewriting the Spiritweb of the thing to be changed (which is why the change happens so fast, once the spiritual nature changes, the effects sweep through the Cognitive and Physical Realm) WoB:

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Blightsong

Would it be harder for Jasnah to Soulcast a Knight Radiant?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes.

Questioner

Would it be harder for her to Soulcast a Mistborn?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes, Investiture resists Investiture. It's harder for her to even Soulcast a person than a rock, right?

Questioner

Is a Mistborn Invested?

Brandon Sanderson

The Mistborn, while they're burning the metal. They are not specifically Invested when they are not burning. When the Investiture becomes active, then yes. Before, no.

Blightsong

So Kelsier, he stayed around longer, not because he was Invested, but because he had the potential to use Investiture?

Brandon Sanderson

Over time using the magic will Invest you, on Scadrial. Most of the power is not coming from, on Roshar the power isn't coming from the person either [he cut himself off, so I assume this is how it works on Scadrial even though he didn't finish his thought] so I'm going to have to back up on that one and say, yes, the Mistborn are as Invested as a Knight Radiant, because in both cases the majority, bulk, of the power is coming from somewhere else, but there is the Spiritweb. Investing the wrong term, but you have all these connections in the Spiritual Realm, so yanking you away from them, or rewriting them is harder.

Questioner

Would they be harder with more Stormlight or metals burning?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes, yes. That would increase the difficulty ratio. For instance, wearing Shardplate is gonna be a great barrier, right, and things like that so yeah. The problem is like, Invested is the wrong term for that, their Spiritweb is connected in different ways.

OdysseyCon 2016 (April 8, 2016)

 

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BipedSnowman

In theory, could you create weird structures or even alloys [with Forgery]?

Two scenarios: using Forging how you might use Soulcasting, such as turning something into wood, bending and carving it to make a new shape, then breaking the seal so it turns back into the original material without changing shape.

Second: Forging one metal into another, and forming an alloy to reduce operation costs. For example, tungsten has a melting point of about 3.5k C, but it's useful as part of a steel alloy for certain applications. Could you Forge it into, say, zinc, which has a melting point of about 500 C, create the steel, then turn it back into tungsten? Presumably the investiture would adjust the molecular structure so it acts as if it has been alloyed with tungsten originally too, otherwise the same process happening with food could be deadly.

Brandon Sanderson

Yes, this is in theory similar to Soulcasting. The difference is that a Forged object, upon "Forgetting" the rewriting to its spiritual nature is going to try to snap back and match what it "thinks" it should be like--which isn't going to lead to as much stability as Soulcasting, where the actual soul is changed. The object is going to try to get back to the way it "should" be, with varying results.

The reason the Lord Ruler aged hyper-quickly is related to this as well.

General Reddit 2018 (Aug. 27, 2018) 

Hope that helps

[Teravangian]

What I said is that most surges are rewriting the spirit-web of things, ie gravitation rewriting the spirit of an object to believe a different direction is down.

That said, constantly seeing shadesmar may make more sense.

[Ashbringer he/him]

The Fused seem to be able to passively use their Surges on themselves, as a general rule, and can expend them to act more like how we expect Radiants to use them.

Some exceptions, of course - Deepest One Cohesion acts fundamentally different than Willshaper Cohesion as we’ve seen them (intermingling with stone vs displacing stone), and similar with… whatever the Husked Ones do compared to whatever Transportation does.

 

I believe it’s confirmed that all Fused brands have an active and passive way to use their Surges; some are just more obvious than others. One of either the Altered or Husked One’s passives is probably the Cognitive Sight. It may also be that the Focused One’s passive is more their resistance to Shardblades, and they need to actively use Investiture to coil up.

[PanicPug]

Is there an overview of each Fused's (known) active and passive abilities yet? Because I've seen a few topics about active and/or passive Fused abilities here then and when, but never a proper overview of both.

On the Coppermind Fused page it is also not written/clarified yet whether the described abilities of each brand are the active or passive ones.

[Teravangian]

I have one in my comment above, though really the coppermind is the best source. You'll just have to use your reasoning to see what makes sense as active, and passive respectively.