Entr0pic He/him Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 (edited) so, if you didn’t know, everyone has 2 more senses than the 5 that are typically credited, being your sense of heat and your sense of proprioception. proprioception is an awareness of where your limbs are relative to your other body parts. I like to call it the sense of spacial awareness. My question is can tin feruchemy store your sense of spacial awareness, and if so, what would it look like to tap it, and has anyone in-verse tapped it before? i do wonder, however, if the metallic arts are affected my intention enough so that only things the user thinks are senses actually counts. Spoiler When spook becomes a tin savant, there isn’t anything described that could be an enhanced version of proprioception, not that i remember, at least. And since A-tin generally enhances the senses that you can store in F-tin… Edited February 20, 2025 by Entr0pic
Treamayne Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Entr0pic said: so, if you didn’t know, everyone has 2 more senses than the 5 that are typically credited, being your sense of heat and your sense of proprioception. Actually, the number of senses is greater than 7 - but there is debate on some of them (including sense of heat - which some argue is just a subset of Touch). The Five traditional "senses" are about perceiving the outside world, while many of the remaining senses are about internal or personal perception. Quote Some examples of human absolute thresholds for the nine to 21 external senses.[23] While debate exists among neurologists as to the specific number of senses due to differing definitions of what constitutes a sense, Gautama Buddha and Aristotle classified five 'traditional' human senses which have become universally accepted: touch, taste, smell, vision, and hearing. Other senses that have been well-accepted in most mammals, including humans, include pain, balance, kinaesthesia, and temperature. Furthermore, some nonhuman animals have been shown to possess alternate senses, including magnetoreception and electroreception.[3] Yes, the metallic arts can manipulate more than the traditional five senses - including some unique to the Cosmere (such as a TinMind storing Steelsight). WoBs: Spoiler Quote BartimaeusTrilogyFan Can Feruchemists store more than the five ‘traditional’ senses, and does Allomantic tin enhance more than the traditional five senses? Brandon Sanderson More is possible. /r/books AMA 2015 (May 17, 2015) Quote NewbSombrero Can Feruchemical tin store Allomantically granted senses like bronze sense? Brandon Sanderson Possible. General Signed Books 2018 (Feb. 8, 2018) Quote Questioner I'm really curious if a tinmind could store the ability to sense pain. Brandon Sanderson Yes, that is theoretically possible, yes. Yes. WorldCon 76 (Aug. 18, 2018) There are no direct WoBs on kinaesthesia or proprioception - though TFE shows Ham discussing how these are affected by A-Pewter (and therefore should be storable by F-Tin). @Koloss17 has a number of Tin threads (such as F-Tin's the Best) that you may enjoy searching and reading the discussion and speculation. Hope that helps Edited February 20, 2025 by Treamayne SPAG 2
Entr0pic He/him Posted February 20, 2025 Author Posted February 20, 2025 That’s actually really helpful. Thx man. 1
Koloss17 She/They Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 I HAVE BEEN SOMMONED WHAT DARK MAGIC DO YOU SEEK? F-tin for the win, now and forever.
Entr0pic He/him Posted February 21, 2025 Author Posted February 21, 2025 Hello, great one @Koloss17. I have come to humbly ask for your advice on this matter.
Koloss17 She/They Posted February 21, 2025 Posted February 21, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Entr0pic said: Hello, great one @Koloss17. I have come to humbly ask for your advice on this matter. @Treamayne did good at linking my previous threads on the matter, but the synopsis is that yeah, the metallic arts provide new senses (hence why inquisitors still see stuff like atium shadows, bronze pulses, and steelsight), and so would theoretically be storable through F-Tin. A list of common senses that you can store normally with F-tin: -the 5 basic ones -sense of pain -proprioception/kinesthesis -sense of balance/vestibular sense -sense of gravity/inertia -sense of temperature -possibly sense of inner pain, but could just be lumped in with pain (probably has to do with intent) -sense of hunger/thirst Senses that are storable from the metallic arts: -iron/steelsight -bronzesense -gold shadows* -atium shadows* -malatium shadows* -electrum shadows* *(these all also employ fortune, so there’s a chance that you would also need a chromiummind to store the full effect. But there is something sense-based going on) -balance from A-pewter -heightened senses from A-tin (There are possibly some senses granted for feruchemy, but most of them are extra weird and very specific) I do recommend checking out my older posts about it, because it goes into the power of being able to store these senses, and how they can actually lead to feruchemantic savantism, which is really cool. You can probably see why I think F-Tin is the best metallic art… edit: here’s a list of a bunch of my posts Edited February 21, 2025 by Koloss17 2
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