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[TwinStorm He/Him]

can we have multiple magic systems @Argenti

[Argenti he/him]

Just now, RoyalBeeMage said:

can i have... time magic? but seriously more like fasst foward and slow down... not actual time travel... except when plot wants.... also can i be a physics of magic teacher...

I'm gonna go on a limb, and say NO TIME TRAVEL UNLESS EVERYONE INVOLVED AGREES. It's messy and screws with agency.

Just now, Ookla the Irreplaceable said:

can we have multiple magic systems @Argenti

I mean we could, but we should make them connected. Having to many magic systems that don't interact with each other feels disjointed, and doesn't make tooo much sense, especlly if we're approaching it from an academic standpoint.

On an aside, do we want magic highschool, or magic college.

[TwinStorm He/Him]

5 minutes ago, Argenti said:

I'm gonna go on a limb, and say NO TIME TRAVEL UNLESS EVERYONE INVOLVED AGREES. It's messy and screws with agency.

I mean we could, but we should make them connected. Having to many magic systems that don't interact with each other feels disjointed, and doesn't make tooo much sense, especlly if we're approaching it from an academic standpoint.

On an aside, do we want magic highschool, or magic college.

yeah no time turners 

well I feel like its fun if each person can have their own gimmick

[Through the Living Elan He/Him]

8 minutes ago, Ookla the Irreplaceable said:

yeah no time turners 

well I feel like its fun if each person can have their own gimmick

Yeah but if they can already do their own gimmick or have their own gimmick how will someone teach them their gimmick

Spoiler

That's the most gimmicks I've ever said in a single sentence

 

Edited January 10, 2025 by Ancient Elantrian

[TwinStorm He/Him]

Just now, Ancient Elantrian said:

Yeah but if they can already do their own gimmick or have their own gimmick how will someone teach them their gimmick

well a gimmick that's their thing but they also learn other magic

[Through the Living Elan He/Him]

Just now, Ookla the Irreplaceable said:

well a gimmick that's their thing but they also learn other magic

That seems

Unnecessarily complicated

[Argenti he/him]

15 minutes ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

That seems

Unnecessarily complicated

I agree. Like, you might be good at one thing, but in the way some people are good at math.

[TwinStorm He/Him]

17 minutes ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

That seems

Unnecessarily complicated

okay

how about transforming substances into other things, like Soulcasting? broad and versatile

[Through the Living Elan He/Him]

10 minutes ago, Ookla the Irreplaceable said:

okay

how about transforming substances into other things, like Soulcasting? broad and versatile

How about

We do this in the Google doc

So I don't have to keep scrolling back

That is one brand of magic and it is cool

[Through the Living Heir he/him]

Ooh! Can I do space magic? Like teleportation and stuff, not stars. It fits our vibe so far, I think. 

[Argenti he/him]

52 minutes ago, Dragonheir said:

Ooh! Can I do space magic? Like teleportation and stuff, not stars. It fits our vibe so far, I think. 

What if we do magic that effects the basic laws of reality (WE MUST KEEP IR SEPARATED FROM THE SURGES!)

I hate to say it, but math magic could fit. Oh you wanna change gravity? Well you gotta start from the bottom up. Change Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation.

Edited January 10, 2025 by Argenti

[Through the Living Wrath he/him]

9 hours ago, Argenti said:

I'm gonna go on a limb, and say NO TIME TRAVEL UNLESS EVERYONE INVOLVED AGREES. It's messy and screws with agency.

I mean we could, but we should make them connected. Having to many magic systems that don't interact with each other feels disjointed, and doesn't make tooo much sense, especlly if we're approaching it from an academic standpoint.

On an aside, do we want magic highschool, or magic college.

MAGIC COLLEGE! I must justify my necromancy.

To connect it to that sort of magic system, uh…

OH!

I CAN MAKE IT EVEN MORE IMMORAL!

The necromancer stores its “soul”, which is really just all the energy it will generate/use in its future (not including potential descendants), and then pops that energy elsewhere!

I make it more energy focused, and let’s see if ya can see the even more immoral thing.

[Through the Living Heir he/him]

8 hours ago, Argenti said:

What if we do magic that effects the basic laws of reality (WE MUST KEEP IR SEPARATED FROM THE SURGES!)

I hate to say it, but math magic could fit. Oh you wanna change gravity? Well you gotta start from the bottom up. Change Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation.

Interesting! I changed my mind. I think I’ll teach temperature-independent phase changes, rather than teleportation. Or specialize in that magic and teach applied magic and physics. 
Do we want a masquerade (e.i. normal people don’t know about magic)? Magic items? Wands? Any costs to using magic? 

[Through the living jeff he/him(straight)]

Do DOO do do doooo do dooooo dooooooooo

I’d be interested, and I can actually do RPs now

[The Bookwyrm he/him]

I think something like this was done long ago, even before my era.

And so a new one is built.

Edited January 10, 2025 by The Bookwyrm

[Through the Living Elan He/Him]

Okay, so on the itinerary

ITINERARY:

HS or College

Public or Private

What kind of Magic

Is magic a core class and do they take like ELA, Science, and Math classes

Are there different brands of magic, similar to how Biology and Chemistry are under "Science"

What magicks (we need something concrete, like Allomancy is)

Is this on earth

Boarding school or not

What is the age range

Are there sports

Would there be electives like magic art

Is there a conflict

Are there different houses

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Am I missing anything?

[Argenti he/him]

8 minutes ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

HS or College

 

I vote College, cus than you can get a degree in Graviturgy, from the [INSERT NAME] School of gravitational studies.

11 minutes ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

Public or Private

If we go for college, this doesn't matter nearly as much. Doesn't effect much. If we go for Highschool, private school might drag us into the HP pit.

13 minutes ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

What kind of Magic

 

I think math magic would be good, but if you all want something else, that's fine too.

14 minutes ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

Is magic a core class and do they take like ELA, Science, and Math classes

Yes, and Yes. Why? Because it's funny and people do need more than magic. 

15 minutes ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

Is this on earth

 

I'd say no, hesitantly.  I think modern-earth-like would be fun, and help throw off more Harry Potter.

16 minutes ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

Boarding school or not

 

 If college, yes, if highschool... Rowling is in our walls.

17 minutes ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

Would there be electives like magic art

 

YES. I can imagine things like... magic snowglobes frozen time, Oils floating in the air that never dissipate. Magic art, magic creative writing (You could integrate an equation into writing. Think... proofs)

20 minutes ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

Is there a conflict

 

Mhhh so this we really need to figure out. I say no wizard war, or if it is, less voldemort and more WW3.

23 minutes ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

Are there different houses

 

SORORITIES AND FRATS AND THE SCHOOOLS

[TwinStorm He/Him]

23 minutes ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

Okay, so on the itinerary

ITINERARY:

HS or College

Public or Private

What kind of Magic

Is magic a core class and do they take like ELA, Science, and Math classes

Are there different brands of magic, similar to how Biology and Chemistry are under "Science"

What magicks (we need something concrete, like Allomancy is)

Is this on earth

Boarding school or not

What is the age range

Are there sports

Would there be electives like magic art

Is there a conflict

Are there different houses

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Am I missing anything?

College

Private, I guess? doesn't really make a difference

yes and yes

different kinds of magic (cuz we want dark magic hehehe)

something broad and versatile for magic

yes

boarding school

17-22

no

yes

conflict? perhaps? maybe? lets see where the story goes.

yes

[Through the Living Elan He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Argenti said:

I vote College, cus than you can get a degree in Graviturgy, from the [INSERT NAME] School of gravitational studies.

If we go for college, this doesn't matter nearly as much. Doesn't effect much. If we go for Highschool, private school might drag us into the HP pit.

I think math magic would be good, but if you all want something else, that's fine too.

Yes, and Yes. Why? Because it's funny and people do need more than magic. 

I'd say no, hesitantly.  I think modern-earth-like would be fun, and help throw off more Harry Potter.

 If college, yes, if highschool... Rowling is in our walls.

YES. I can imagine things like... magic snowglobes frozen time, Oils floating in the air that never dissipate. Magic art, magic creative writing (You could integrate an equation into writing. Think... proofs)

Mhhh so this we really need to figure out. I say no wizard war, or if it is, less voldemort and more WW3.

SORORITIES AND FRATS AND THE SCHOOOLS

So this is a college with different degrees. 

What does "math magic" constitute

This is on a modern-day earth-like place

It does have dorms, girls and boys separate

YES MAGIC ART

No wizard war. I agree. 

YESSS

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As a high schooler this will be hard. I have like 0 understanding of college. 

Also

PLEASE FOR HEAVENS SAKE WHEN WE DO THIS KEEP THE ROMANCE TO A MINIMUM

[TwinStorm He/Him]

5 minutes ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

So this is a college with different degrees. 

What does "math magic" constitute

This is on a modern-day earth-like place

It does have dorms, girls and boys separate

YES MAGIC ART

No wizard war. I agree. 

YESSS

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As a high schooler this will be hard. I have like 0 understanding of college. 

Also

PLEASE FOR HEAVENS SAKE WHEN WE DO THIS KEEP THE ROMANCE TO A MINIMUM

ok

so drawing on my several siblings knowledge of college

its just like high school

with a lot more free time

so maybe just do high school

[Argenti he/him]

5 minutes ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

PLEASE FOR HEAVENS SAKE WHEN WE DO THIS KEEP THE ROMANCE TO A MINIMUM

Agreed. If you wanna do more than like stare into each others eye, take it to PMs or whatever.

 

7 minutes ago, Ancient Elantrian said:

What does "math magic" constitute

 

What I'm envisioning is (In rough terms):

In order to change reality, you need to understand the things than fuel it. You can't just say "Oh I want that thing to float!" you need to go into the gravitational equations that are effecting it, and change the variables. The farther you go from what's normal, the more magic it consumes, and the faster reality attempts to reassert itself.  

Small changes can have rippling effects, but mistakes and errors can have disastrous results, or simply fail to work.

[Just_a_Fan he/him]

45 minutes ago, Argenti said:

In order to change reality, you need to understand the things than fuel it. You can't just say "Oh I want that thing to float!" you need to go into the gravitational equations that are effecting it, and change the variables. The farther you go from what's normal, the more magic it consumes, and the faster reality attempts to reassert itself.  

Small changes can have rippling effects, but mistakes and errors can have disastrous results, or simply fail to work.

So, if you wanted to heal someone with magic, you'd need to know what's ailing them and have the resources and knowledge to fix it, instead of the TTRPG healer's flowchart(TM) of:

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if flesh wound = true, then use mend flesh & bone.

elseif debuff = true, then use clean.

elseif curse = true, then use uncurse.

elseif dead = true, then use revive.

 

Edited January 10, 2025 by Just_a_Fan

[Argenti he/him]

55 minutes ago, Just_a_Fan said:

So, if you wanted to heal someone with magic, you'd need to know what's ailing them and have the resources and knowledge to fix it, instead of the TTRPG healer's flowchart(TM) of:

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More or less. I haven't really considered how healing magic would work, but I assume it would need a lot of anatomy and chemistry.

[Through the Living Wrath he/him]

1 hour ago, Argenti said:

More or less. I haven't really considered how healing magic would work, but I assume it would need a lot of anatomy and chemistry.

Okokokok

New (definitely not refurbished) magic:

Force constructs.

Essentially, you take all the forces acting on an object, nullify them, and copy them to something else.

Thats the easiest, but you still need to understand (and recreate on some level), like, how the original is made up.

However, should you not recreate it perfectly, for instance using a different construction that does not match it, the forces will act differently, and more complex branches of this focus on how to exploit this.

Cool! Did you appreciate the necromancy except not really?

[Through the Living Elan He/Him]

3 hours ago, Argenti said:

Agreed. If you wanna do more than like stare into each others eye, take it to PMs or whatever.

 

What I'm envisioning is (In rough terms):

In order to change reality, you need to understand the things than fuel it. You can't just say "Oh I want that thing to float!" you need to go into the gravitational equations that are effecting it, and change the variables. The farther you go from what's normal, the more magic it consumes, and the faster reality attempts to reassert itself.  

Small changes can have rippling effects, but mistakes and errors can have disastrous results, or simply fail to work.

So like if you wanted mind control you'd have to have an actual understanding of psychology and stuff?

Like magic can affect pretty much all things as long as you understand how they work and what you're doing?

And if you do too much it won't work/it'll be harder?