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Sorry if this is the wrong board to post this in or if other people have already found this, but I just got my WoR leatherbounds which came with a copy of the Stormlight playing card deck and I couldn't help but notice a pattern in the non-sapient spren which are depicted on the A-10 cards in the deck as laid out on this card

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We know that some of these at least are armorspren for the various orders, filling out the other orders (ordering by the surges) we get the following list (ones which are speculative based on this list I have marked with an asterisk)

Windspren-Windrunner
Gravitationspren-Skybreaker
Flamespren-Dustbringer* 
Lifespren-Edgedancer
Concentrationspren-Truthwatcher*
Creationspren-Lightweaver
Logicspren-Elsecaller
Joyspren-Willshaper*
Bindspren-Stoneward*
Gloryspren-Bondsmith

I know this is obviously non-canon and a non-text source, but does anybody else think this is at least promising? Any thoughts?

Posted

This is just one more point towards this, but the numbers also line up with the Heralds associated with each number and order making the full list look more like this

  • Ace-1-Jes-Jezrien-Windspren-Windrunner
  • 2-Nan-Nale-Gravitationspren-Skybreaker
  • 3-Chach-Chanarach-Flamespren-Dustbringer* 
  • 4-Vev-Vedel-Lifespren-Edgedancer
  • 5-Palah-Pralla-Concentrationspren-Truthwatcher*
  • 6-Shash-Ash-Creationspren-Lightweaver
  • 7-Batab-Battar-Logicspren-Elsecaller
  • 8-Kak-Kalak-Joyspren-Willshaper*
  • 9-Tanat-Taln-Bindspren-Stoneward*
  • 10-Ishi-Ishar-Gloryspren-Bondsmith

At this point, I'm fairly confident this is the actual list, but I figured I'd list some more evidence here for people who care to peruse.

Posted

I mean, I guess? But I question why stoneward's spren is bind spren. Why are spren that appear around Adhesion their plate? 

Also, are you the one to add this to the coppermind? I see someone did, today.

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4 minutes ago, Argenti said:

I mean, I guess? But I question why stoneward's spren is bind spren. Why are spren that appear around Adhesion their plate?

Likely due to the interaction of Cohesion + Tension. Just because one scene showed Bindspren around one type of lashing does not mean they are exclusive to that Surge. . . 

Just a guess though. 

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Just now, Treamayne said:

Likely due to the interaction of Cohesion + Tension. Just because one scene showed Bindspren around one type of lashing does not mean they are exclusive to that Surge. . . 

Just a guess though. 

Yeah, I guess it's possible. I don't love it if it is, but oh well.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Argenti said:

Yeah, I guess it's possible. I don't love it if it is, but oh well.

Well, as the surges of Strong Axial Interconnection and Soft Axial Interconnection, together they are literally manipulating Molecular Bonds. . . 

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Just now, Treamayne said:

Well, as the surges of Strong Axial Interconnection and Soft Axial Interconnection, together they are literally manipulating Molecular Bonds. . . 

Mhh yeah, good point. They change bonds. It fits.

I guess I'm just hung up on how all the other platespren are very common, except bindspren. 

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3 minutes ago, Argenti said:

Mhh yeah, good point. They change bonds. It fits.

I guess I'm just hung up on how all the other platespren are very common, except bindspren. 

Or, we just have not yet been in the settings where they are common. Wasn't it noted that LogicSpren and ConcentrationSpren are rare-to-absent entirely in the East (I don't think any showed up in Alethkar or the Shattered Plains) but were all over Kharbranth (Jasnah, specifically) Urithiru, and Azir?

Posted (edited)
26 minutes ago, Argenti said:

Also, are you the one to add this to the coppermind? I see someone did, today.

I'm not! It's definitely, possible that many people made this connection independently, and like I said it hasn't been confirmed in the text yet so I wasn't ready to add to the Coppermind myself. Maybe for now could be in the Trivia section for the orders that haven't yet been confirmed in text to show that this is just speculation.

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17 minutes ago, NotLiamRoss said:
43 minutes ago, Argenti said:

Also, are you the one to add this to the coppermind? I see someone did, today.

I'm not! It's definitely, possible that many people made this connection independently, and like I said it hasn't been confirmed in the text yet so I wasn't ready to add to the Coppermind myself. Maybe for now could be in the Trivia section for the orders that haven't yet been confirmed in text to show that this is just speculation.

We had some of these answers from the Nexus 23 Q&A and expected this was coming. The Keepers have been working and planning for the information to be updated, once available (and some of them may have received their Leatherbound package before the holidays). 

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This topic has already been touched on in this post:

Honestly, I expected the Bindsprens to be the Sprens associated with the Sibling (each Godspren having a different one) but the way things are going it seems that the list will be the same as the image, with the peculiarity that the Nightwatcher seems to share the same sprens as the Edgedancers (lifesprens) and the Sibling would have a set of 2 (lifesprens + glorysprens).

 

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