Radiant Orders for Non-Cosmere Characters

[Teravangian]

"Eithan...well, Eithan would probably want to be a Willshaper." Eithan is an interesting character and to all who have read the books, I'd like to discuss it further. He's clearly a Willshaper, Lightweaver, or Elsecaller, but which I'm not sure. Truthwatcher would be another option, if we look at the Osmanthus Aurelius side of him, but less likely in my eyes.

Why do you put him as primarily Willshaper, and to others, what are your thoughts?

[Use the Falchion]

On 7/24/2025 at 2:28 PM, Teravangian said:

"Eithan...well, Eithan would probably want to be a Willshaper." Eithan is an interesting character and to all who have read the books, I'd like to discuss it further. He's clearly a Willshaper, Lightweaver, or Elsecaller, but which I'm not sure. Truthwatcher would be another option, if we look at the Osmanthus Aurelius side of him, but less likely in my eyes.

Why do you put him as primarily Willshaper, and to others, what are your thoughts?

Eithan wants to be free of the constraints of society in a lot of ways, be it from the politics of being the Patriarch of the Arelius on the continent, the Sacred Arts philosophy that you can't bring others with you as you advance and you MUST be alone once you get to the top, to spoiler stuff later on. Eithan is a community-focused individualist, an oxymoron that fits him. He wants to bring others into his little rebellion, but he also wants everyone to think for themselves in a lot of ways. That fits him, IMO. 

I could definitely see Eithan as a Lightweaver, although (BOOK 10 SPOILERS)

Spoiler

Ozmanthus most certainly wasn't. Ozmanthus was probably a Truthwacher/Dustbringer.

 

EDIT: As a fun thought, here's what Shards I think each member of Cradle would want or be best with: 

 

Lindon - Ambition or a Ruin/Invention mixture that would mesh will with his dual cores. Or maybe even Harmony later on. 

Yerin - Valor 

Little Blue - Devotion and Endowment

Eithan - Virtuosity and probably Ruin

Orthos - Dominion and Reason, interestingly enough

Mercy - Mercy, for the giggles. 

Ziel - Preservation

 

Edited August 3, 2025 by Use the Falchion

[aetherbound he/him]

Someone else mentioned fire emblem 3 houses so I'll share my perspective, having only completed a verdant wind playthrough.

Byleth - Bondsmith
Claude - I could see Bondsmith, Willshaper, Truthwatcher, or even some Edgedancer
Lorenz - Skybreaker
Raphael - Stoneward
Ignatz - Lightweaver
Lysithea - Elsecaller
Marianne - Lightweaver?
Hilda - Willshaper?
Leonie - Edgedancer/Stoneward
Seteth - Windrunner
Flayn - Edgedancer, Elsecaller, or Bondsmith, I don't really know where to put her
Manuela - no
Hanneman - Truthwatcher
Cyril - Skybreaker
Catherine - Skybreaker
Shamir - Stoneward?

Edited August 3, 2025 by aetherbound

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint

Kim Dokja - Windrunner

Jung Heewon - Skybreaker 5th ideal

Lee Hyunsung - Stoneward

Yoo Sangah - Edgedancer

Lee Gilyoung - idk

Shin Yoosung - Dustbringer

Han Sooyoung - Elsecaller

Yoo Joonghuyk - Willshaper

Jang Hayoung - Elsecaller

@ChipsAHoid @mippo help me out here

Edited August 3, 2025 by CoderDrag0n8

[ChipsAHoid He/Him]

1 hour ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint

Kim Dokja - Bondsmith or Windrunner

Jung Heewon - Skybreaker 5th ideal

Lee Hyunsung - Stoneward

Yoo Sangah - Windrunner or Edgedancer

Lee Gilyoung - idk

Shin Yoosung - Dustbringer

Han Sooyoung - Elsecaller

Yoo Joonghuyk - Willshaper

Jang Hayoung - Elsecaller

@ChipsAHoid @mippo help me out here

Those are all accurate, Idk abt Joonghyuk tho, I don’t think he’d be a good radiant…

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

6 minutes ago, ChipsAHoid said:

Those are all accurate, Idk abt Joonghyuk tho, I don’t think he’d be a good radiant…

oh he wouldn't, but his whole thing is 'save the world from the star stream'

hed be Willshaper or Elsecaller.

What abt Kim Dokja and Lee Gilyoung and Yoo Sangah?

Edited August 3, 2025 by CoderDrag0n8

[ChipsAHoid He/Him]

Just now, CoderDrag0n8 said:

oh he wouldn't, but his whole thing is 'save the world from the star stream'

hed be Willshaper or Elsecaller.

What abt Kim Dokja and Lee Gilyoung and Yoo Sangah?

Dokja feels like a Windrunner in oaths, but I feel like he’d rather have Lightweaver powers

Gilyoung idk enough about his goals

Sangah is more Edgedancer than Windrunner I think

Idk, I’m only on chapter 234

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

25 minutes ago, ChipsAHoid said:

Dokja feels like a Windrunner in oaths, but I feel like he’d rather have Lightweaver powers

Gilyoung idk enough about his goals

Sangah is more Edgedancer than Windrunner I think

Idk, I’m only on chapter 234

Alright, Alright.

[Use the Falchion]

5 hours ago, aetherbound said:

Byleth - Bondsmith
Claude - I could see Bondsmith, Willshaper, Truthwatcher, or even some Edgedancer
Lorenz - Skybreaker
Raphael - Stoneward
Ignatz - Lightweaver
Lysithea - Elsecaller
Marianne - Lightweaver?
Hilda - Willshaper?
Leonie - Edgedancer/Stoneward
Seteth - Windrunner
Flayn - Edgedancer, Elsecaller, or Bondsmith, I don't really know where to put her
Manuela - no
Hanneman - Truthwatcher
Cyril - Skybreaker
Catherine - Skybreaker
Shamir - Stoneward?

Claude is a Truthwatcher for sure! Granted, all of the House Leaders are Bondsmiths IMO, since they all unite their Houses, but if Byleth takes the role of the Bondsmith, then Claude is a Truthwatcher. 

Leonie is an Elsecaller since she wants to be the best Mercenary she can be. Her aspiration to become the next Bladebreaker puts her there IMO. 

Hilda is a Lightweaver. She's artistic and covers her motives and feelings in lies and manipulation. 

Seteth is actually probably more akin to a Bondsmith than anything else, given his position in the church and true identity, but barring that, Stoneward. Seteth only cares about protecting Flayn, but he's also there for other students such as Hilda, Leonie, Bernadetta, Felix, and Ingrid when they need advice or assistance. 

Flayn - Edgedancer

Manuela - Edgedancer. She cares about life and life deeply. She's FAR more than just the hot mess that we see her as in the game. (Check out her supports with Seteth! They're ADORABLE.)

Shamir - Probably a Dustbringer. Shamir doesn't really have a code or ideal that she follows, but she's always in control of herself, and she tries to teach others self control and self-mastery as well.