Atlas333 Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 I was reading TSM and this quote stuck with me Quote “Rosharan, have you said the oaths?” “No,” Zellion lied. “I’m a free man. I’ve got no part in the conflicts. Just want to keep my head down and stay alive.” (ch 44) Why is this a lie? Yes, at one point Sigzil swore oaths but for all intents and purposes he's no longer a radiant. Sure he has a living shardblade but that's it. He doesn't have access to surges and doesn't follow his oaths. Ultimately, the distinction isn't super important. It could just be that he's lying to further mask his identity, he's saying what will give him the best chance at entering negotiations, or he still thinks of himself as a radiant and that's why it's a lie even if other people (me) wouldn't label him a radiant.
alder24 Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 7 minutes ago, Atlas333 said: I was reading TSM and this quote stuck with me Why is this a lie? Yes, at one point Sigzil swore oaths but for all intents and purposes he's no longer a radiant. Sure he has a living shardblade but that's it. He doesn't have access to surges and doesn't follow his oaths. Ultimately, the distinction isn't super important. It could just be that he's lying to further mask his identity, he's saying what will give him the best chance at entering negotiations, or he still thinks of himself as a radiant and that's why it's a lie even if other people (me) wouldn't label him a radiant. He broke his Oaths. TSM ch 45: Quote “Not this time,” Nomad whispered. “I don’t know, Auxiliary. I just did it. I can’t explain my mindset. I can’t justify it. I disavowed my oaths. It’s the choice I made. But I didn’t have a reason.” By asking if he said Oaths, they ask if he's a Radiant, if he's bound by Oaths. He broke them, so this no longer applies to him.
Atlas333 Posted December 18, 2024 Author Posted December 18, 2024 4 minutes ago, alder24 said: By asking if he said Oaths, they ask if he's a Radiant, if he's bound by Oaths. He broke them, so this no longer applies to him. So, by saying "he isn't a radiant" he's telling the truth. Then why does he say it's a lie?
Treamayne Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 21 minutes ago, Atlas333 said: I was reading TSM and this quote stuck with me Quote 21 minutes ago, Atlas333 said: “Rosharan, have you said the oaths?” “No,” Zellion lied. “I’m a free man. I’ve got no part in the conflicts. Just want to keep my head down and stay alive.” (ch 44) Why is this a lie? Yes, at one point Sigzil swore oaths but for all intents and purposes he's no longer a radiant. Sure he has a living shardblade but that's it. He doesn't have access to surges and doesn't follow his oaths. Ultimately, the distinction isn't super important. It could just be that he's lying to further mask his identity, he's saying what will give him the best chance at entering negotiations, or he still thinks of himself as a radiant and that's why it's a lie even if other people (me) wouldn't label him a radiant. They did not ask if he was Radiant or currently bound by Oaths. They asked if he had ever said the Oaths. He has said oaths, so he lied - even if he was answering the actual question that he is not currently bound by Oaths (though he has other binding(s)) 4
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