A Counterpoint to H-duralumin Blanking Identity

[Trusk'our he/him]

Two possible ways have been proposed to strip Identity from Scadrian Investiture as of right now: storing Identity with aluminum Feruchemy while storing another attribute or being spiked. Or, spiking someone with duralumin Hemalurgy and then spiking whatever else you want.

However, I'm thinking that the latter of the two may prove impractical, at least for blanking Allomancy. 

If Allomancy functions by forming a bond between Preservation and the Allomancer, it's possible that spiking away their Identity will also strip their Connection. If so, this would probably leave the power blanked, but broken in such a way that it cannot metabolize metals for Investiture anymore. Maybe the power's functionalities could be Snapped into again (if Snapping is what forges that bond as I suspect), but I'd think this is unlikely without using something like F-gold to completely restore everything. 

Identity blanking via Hemalurgy might even mess up Feruchemy or human attributes, depending on how the Spiritweb relies on Connection to utilize those pieces and to what extent H-duralumin interacts with them, but those I think are somewhat less likely. 

Of course this depends on whether Hemalurgic duralumin must target both Connection and Identity and how selective a Hemalurgist can choose to be, but the solution to blanking powers may not be as simple as spiking a donor twice, I'm thinking. 

[Lord Ruler Sylphrena He/Him]

On 12/6/2024 at 6:30 PM, Trusk'our said:

Two possible ways have been proposed to strip Identity from Scadrian Investiture as of right now: storing Identity with aluminum Feruchemy while storing another attribute or being spiked. Or, spiking someone with duralumin Hemalurgy and then spiking whatever else you want.

However, I'm thinking that the latter of the two may prove impractical, at least for blanking Allomancy. 

If Allomancy functions by forming a bond between Preservation and the Allomancer, it's possible that spiking away their Identity will also strip their Connection. If so, this would probably leave the power blanked, but broken in such a way that it cannot metabolize metals for Investiture anymore. Maybe the power's functionalities could be Snapped into again (if Snapping is what forges that bond as I suspect), but I'd think this is unlikely without using something like F-gold to completely restore everything. 

Identity blanking via Hemalurgy might even mess up Feruchemy or human attributes, depending on how the Spiritweb relies on Connection to utilize those pieces and to what extent H-duralumin interacts with them, but those I think are somewhat less likely. 

Of course this depends on whether Hemalurgic duralumin must target both Connection and Identity and how selective a Hemalurgist can choose to be, but the solution to blanking powers may not be as simple as spiking a donor twice, I'm thinking. 

I think you can be specific and avoid stealing identity and connection if you know what bind point to use. Also you could steal your own identity/connection and use Regrowth or F-Gold to not die. You could the replace your connection/identity with the person who's power you want to use.

[Trusk'our he/him]

15 hours ago, Lord Ruler Sylphrena said:

I think you can be specific and avoid stealing identity and connection if you know what bind point to use. 

Probably, though it may not be as easy as we had once assumed where stapling your victim twice would yeild incredible power. 

There's probably a lot practice and information needed on the Hemalurgist's part.

15 hours ago, Lord Ruler Sylphrena said:

Also you could steal your own identity/connection and use Regrowth or F-Gold to not die. You could the replace your connection/identity with the person who's power you want to use.

Yeah, that might work. Might not even need to remove your own, just add the Duralumin spike on top of the power spike.

Since duralumin seems to count as a human attribute it might cause more warping in the recipient, but if you hook it up right maybe you can fuse enough of their Identity to yourself to bypass Identity contamination and not break the Preservation bond.

Another possible avenue, at least. 

Edited December 14, 2024 by Trusk'our
Clarification of ideas.