Atium and Lerasium with Rosharian advances.

[Dofurion]

This post is more or less in line with my post about the possibility of separating Dor, basically the question is the following:

What would happen if in the process that Wax took to try to separate Ettmetal, instead of using Bavadium to divide it, he had a system in which on the side where the metal took the characteristics of Lerasium, it vibrated in the anti-tone of Ruin, while on the side where the characteristics of Atium were taken, it vibrated in the anti-tone of Preservation?

[alder24]

20 hours ago, Dofurion said:

This post is more or less in line with my post about the possibility of separating Dor, basically the question is the following:

What would happen if in the process that Wax took to try to separate Ettmetal, instead of using Bavadium to divide it, he had a system in which on the side where the metal took the characteristics of Lerasium, it vibrated in the anti-tone of Ruin, while on the side where the characteristics of Atium were taken, it vibrated in the anti-tone of Preservation?

It's hard to say. I can see this working, but it's worth noting that solid investiture is more resistant to anti-investiture (Raysium doesn't react with anti-Voidlight) and I think it might be more resilient to anti-tones as well (because it's solid). It probably would still end up with an explosion anyway because your anti-tones are doing the very same thing Trellium was doing.

[ChillPenguin]

On 9/22/2024 at 12:17 PM, Dofurion said:

This post is more or less in line with my post about the possibility of separating Dor, basically the question is the following:

What would happen if in the process that Wax took to try to separate Ettmetal, instead of using Bavadium to divide it, he had a system in which on the side where the metal took the characteristics of Lerasium, it vibrated in the anti-tone of Ruin, while on the side where the characteristics of Atium were taken, it vibrated in the anti-tone of Preservation?

I think you’re on to something, but maybe you need both. The Bavadinum would start the separation and the resonant frequencies would convince the investiture to separate more efficiently, possibly with less of an explosion. 

[+Lewis Nethur He/Him]

Hmmm...I don't normally do this, but I'm inclined to disagree with the premise of this thread on a fundamental level. While, yes, some of the unique innovations of Roshar, particularly those relating to vibration and resonance, are incredibly powerful and derived from centuries of legitimate scientific engagement and have developed organically into magic systems, they should not be assumed to be relevant or predictive of the outcomes or results of unique systems developed and evolved around totally divergent principles.

The people of scadrial are so artificially good at metallurgy that much hand-waving must already go into their every achievement and exploit. Could some new insights be made into the allomantic arts by exploration of tonality?  Maybe...but...probably not in a meaningful way. In real life, when vibration and resonance criteria simply do not apply in any meaningful way, we generally set a product's vibe-profiles as a full spectrum flatline across all frequencies and multiply it by an order of magnitude to, hopefully, ward away anyone from fixating on it or questioning it when they should take it as a warning. I'd like to think Scadrians would have enough mastery of their arts that they wouldn't have so glaring a blindspot.

[Tmorg]

On 9/23/2024 at 6:04 AM, alder24 said:

It's hard to say. I can see this working, but it's worth noting that solid investiture is more resistant to anti-investiture (Raysium doesn't react with anti-Voidlight) and I think it might be more resilient to anti-tones as well (because it's solid). It probably would still end up with an explosion anyway because your anti-tones are doing the very same thing Trellium was doing.

First post on here;  it I don’t think it would necessarily be less resistant as you would need to find a different frequency. Because solid investure would have a different “resistance” to wanting to be moved you would probably just need a different frequency. 
 

Just as sound actually travels more effectively through metal than it does air (and we know Brandon loves his metals) because the medium allows the sound waves to maintain its shape. But there is also a distortion in the wavelength when sound moves between mediums. (I.e. diffraction, why a pencil appears to bend when halfway in water) so you probably could vibrate it but finding the proper resonance might prove more difficult