Spikes and Nicrosilminds

[Cuttleguy]

This was a question I had in my head for a while. Let’s say I am a Soulbearer (nicrosil) ferring, and I spike a Tineye with a steel spike(this steals physical alloumancy), and put the spike in me. Can I store it in one of my metalminds, and if I can could I then remove the spike and tap that metalmind and keep the power? Could I then spike someone else and woukd they get the power? If this works this way, one could theoretically kill every type of misting once, then kill every ferring once except for nicrosil ferrings which you would need to kill two of, to become another TLR. Not only that, but that could be enough to make anyone you waited fullborn, with no spikes left over in any of you!

 

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Edited October 8, 2024 by Cuttleguy
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[Trusk'our he/him]

42 minutes ago, Cuttleguy said:

This was a question I had in my head for a while. Let’s say I am a Soulbearer (nicrosil) ferring, and I spike a Tineye with a steel spike(this steals physical alloumancy), and put the spike in me. Can I store it in one of my metalminds, and if I can could I then remove the spike and tap that metalmind and keep the power? Could I then spike someone else and woukd they get the power? If this works this way, one could theoretically kill every type of misting once, then kill every ferring once except for nicrosil ferrings which you would need to kill two of, to become another TLR. Not only that, but that could be enough to make anyone you waited fullborn, with no spikes left over in any of you!

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Honestly, we don't have a clear cut answer for this yet, but if I were to guess if it was possible, technically yes, but you'd likely need to modify a few things first. 

Identity contamination prevnts you from Compounding via Hemalurgy currently, and I would guess that this would similarly prevent you from storing a spike's power in a Nicrosilmind as it's keyed to someone else's Identity. 

If you could blank the spike's Identity (or your own) via aluminum Feruchemy I think that this could be done however. 

It's also worth mentioning that even if Identity contamination doesn't automatically prevent you from storing a power in a Nicrosilmind via Hemalurgy, it would cause issues when wanting to Tap it; the Nicrosilmind has the Identities of both the spike and you, which would probably muddy it too much to use without the spike. So, Identity blanking would be useful here too.

[Cuttleguy]

So the subject would need to have stored their Identity in an aluminummind? Or, they could use the spike but don’t kill method and use one duralumin spike( to remove the identity of said person), and then killed them and took their power, would it work? You wouldn’t put the duralumin spike in you.

[Trusk'our he/him]

36 minutes ago, Cuttleguy said:

So the subject would need to have stored their Identity in an aluminummind? Or, they could use the spike but don’t kill method and use one duralumin spike( to remove the identity of said person), and then killed them and took their power, would it work? You wouldn’t put the duralumin spike in you.

Yes, blanking the Hemalurgic donor's Identity (via a Hemalurgic spike that grants Feruchemical aluminum or perhaps an Unsealed Aluminummind) while excising their power with a spike should lead to a Hemalurgic spike with no Identity contamination. 

And as you suggest, a non-lethal usage of duralumin Hemalurgy could probably achieve a similar end result, especially if they aren't compliant.

Edited August 25, 2024 by Trusk'our

[alder24]

3 hours ago, Cuttleguy said:

This was a question I had in my head for a while. Let’s say I am a Soulbearer (nicrosil) ferring, and I spike a Tineye with a steel spike(this steals physical alloumancy), and put the spike in me. Can I store it in one of my metalminds, and if I can could I then remove the spike and tap that metalmind and keep the power? Could I then spike someone else and woukd they get the power? If this works this way, one could theoretically kill every type of misting once, then kill every ferring once except for nicrosil ferrings which you would need to kill two of, to become another TLR. Not only that, but that could be enough to make anyone you waited fullborn, with no spikes left over in any of you!

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I don't believe it would work. I personally think that F-Nicrosil works like any other metalmind (except for F-copper and F-aluminum), which means you can't store 100% of your magical ability and you can only tap it for as long as you have stored it. For example, you can store 80% of your Allomantic power for an hour (leaving you at 20% strength) and later tap for an hour to gain 80% (putting you at 180%). But it's not like a Coppermind - Malwish Medallions are like a Coppermind but they are confirmed to be a bit different. However we don't know a lot about F-nicrosil and this is just a big speculation.

So at best you store a power you have in a Hemalurgic spike for a week at 80% strength, remove that spike and tap it to gain this 80% for a week with no spike in you. The spike would still have that charge at full strength, because once you stop storing, it returns to its normal state.