An Interesting Death Rattle

[SPECTRE120]

I was looking at the death rattles and I came across this one: 

He must pick it up, the fallen title! The tower, the crown, and the spear!

 The fallen title might be the shard of Honor. The spear probably represents Kaladin, the crown Dalinar, and the tower Navani. The other 2 are bondsmiths so does this mean that Kaladin will become the third? Maybe he goes to the Nightwatcher along the way to Shinovar or something? The spear could also represent another bridgeman. I don't quite know what this means, but it seems interesting.

[coolsnow7]

If anything it suggests the opposite - that Kaladin will lose his title (arguably he already did, no longer a leader in the army) as will Jasna (the crown) and Dalinar (the Tower, representing leadership of the Knights Radiant at Urithiru). The better question is who would be a plausible candidate for any of that? Personally I can’t think of any answers.

But the placement of “the spear” hardly suggests that Kaladin is about to pick up new titles. 

[SPECTRE120]

2 hours ago, coolsnow7 said:

If anything it suggests the opposite - that Kaladin will lose his title (arguably he already did, no longer a leader in the army) as will Jasna (the crown) and Dalinar (the Tower, representing leadership of the Knights Radiant at Urithiru). The better question is who would be a plausible candidate for any of that? Personally I can’t think of any answers.

I hadn't thought of it that way. Szeth is the closest I can think of for someone who could pick up the titles, but even he isn't a good fit.

[coolsnow7]

6 minutes ago, SPECTRE120 said:

I hadn't thought of it that way. Szeth is the closest I can think of for someone who could pick up the titles, but even he isn't a good fit.

I posted a dark horse theory that there will be a bunch of shardic intent reshuffling and Szeth will wind up as a single shard but with combination Honor + Odium intent - except instead of War, the intent will be Vengeance. The mechanism for these changes would be the Change Dawnshard. 
 

Idk doesn’t fit this Death Rattle but it’s along the same lines. 

[NewGuy 16]

Oooh I’m intrigued by this death rattle. I don’t think it’s already happened—although maybe you could argue Dalinar refounding the Knights Radiant (fallen title), reclaiming Urithiru (tower), becoming its king (crown), and prosecuting the war (maybe spear?) could possibly fit—so what could it be? Perhaps everything goes insanely awry and someone has to pick up the title of Champion, reforging the coalition after something goes wrong with the tower and the crown (the spear may already be available to be claimed…). But who?

[coolsnow7]

I believe there’s a WOB that it did not happen yet. 

[Elite01]

Okay I have been thinking about death rattles for a while, I found it kind of weird that when Kaladin meets up with Dalinar he specifically mentions that he is wearing the kholin glyph which a tower and a crown... Could be harmless but makes me think that Kalading may have to pick up Urithiru or something? I feel like there is foreshadowing for Kaladin never coming back from shinovar though.... Very hard to tell 

[Aon Tia she/her]

On 8/15/2024 at 6:16 AM, SPECTRE120 said:

was looking at the death rattles and I came across this one: 

He must pick it up, the fallen title! The tower, the crown, and the spear!

 The fallen title might be the shard of Honor. The spear probably represents Kaladin, the crown Dalinar, and the tower Navani. The other 2 are bondsmiths so does this mean that Kaladin will become the third?

I have long believed that this rattle means that Dalinar will fall and Kaladin will have to pick the fallen title ie bondsmith title. Earlier, I used to think that Kaladin will bond SF

But SA5 has made me think that he might become 3rd Bondsmith, with SF remaining unbonded after Dalinar falls or may be SF will be trapped or something as I think was originally planned by Rodium at the end of OB. 

But I dont see him bonding Nightwatcher. 

We know that there can be more than 3 bondsmiths. 
I think if he becomes a Bondsmith, he will bond The Wind, who clearly is some ancient singer godspren.