Jump to content

Did Brandon have the Atium retcon in mind in 2010?


Eternal Khol

Recommended Posts

I was looking through WoB's for a specific one and came across this interesting one regarding Atium that i think suggests Brandon had the Atium retcon in mind since at least 2010

The questioner asks what a Atium-Lerasium alloy would do and Brandon goes on to describe Atium as granting "you a glimpse into the vision of everything - past, present, future"

We know that the Atium in Era 1 only granted a limited vision of the future not "a glimpse into the vision of everything - past, present, future"

So Brandon probably has had the Atium retcon in mind for going on 15 years now😯

Just thought it was interesting and id share :)

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/291/#e9448

 

Edited by Eternal Khol
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Eternal Khol said:

I was looking through WoB's for a specific one and came across this interesting one regarding Atium that i think suggests Brandon had the Atium retcon in mind since at least 2010

It's older than that (at least early 2009), as shown by this WoB:

Spoiler

/u/AAKS_

My understanding is that Brandon thinks it is a plothole that Lerasium can be burned by Scadrian (regardless of if they are mistings/mistborn) but Atium can't.

His solution is to retcon the Pits to naturally produce an Atium/Electrum alloy, presumably by the design of Preservation. Therefore we don't know what pure Atium looks like or does when used in any magic.

Peter Ahlstrom

We do know what it does. It’s on the Allomancy poster, and the effect appeared one time at the end of Hero of Ages.

LewsTherinTelescope

Interesting. Do you know if he had already conceived the retcon by the time the poster was written, or if that line about pure atium just turned out to fit really well retroactively?

Peter Ahlstrom

The retcon is way older than a lot of people assume.

LewsTherinTelescope

Does this mean he had it in mind by the time Hero of Ages released (since the first public version of the poster dates to 2008), or just that it's old but not sure exactly how old?

Peter Ahlstrom

Remember that what's in the books is filtered through the understanding of the characters. So even if Brandon planned it from the beginning, if the characters didn't know about it, it's not going to come out in the book.

And see this thread reply from 2009.

Footnote: The link is to a post on the Timewaster's Guide forums, where Peter responds to someone asking about whether atium is an alloy by saying he now knows enough to confirm or deny the theory, but is not allowed to.
General Reddit 2022 (Dec. 4, 2022)

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Eternal Khol said:

Oh wow. So he came up with it pretty much right after HoA. Kinda new to us. but def not new.

I saw that WoB too but totally missed the 2009 part at the end😳

I believe that, technically, He wrote all three (first draft) before editing and publishing The Final Empire. Then he revised Well of Ascension and that was published and it was during revisions of Hero of Ages that the Atium-Pits-Misting thing was altered to fit the new plan. There are subtle references to it in the HoA Annotations as well, and those were written while doing the Copy Edit (last draft) of HoA before publication. 

Edited by Treamayne
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...