Trusk'our he/him Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) I had been wondering how the weakening of Feruchemy worked for Hemalurgy for a while, whether the Hemalurgic Feruchemist could store less of an attribute or whether the taping was simply less effective. Well, I just found a WoB that tells us: Quote Calamity Chicago signing - Arcanum (coppermind.net) Kurkistan How exactly does Hemalurgic decay work for Feruchemy? Is it like a leaky tube or something, or…? Brandon Sanderson Yeah… yeah. Kurkistan So they try to store 10 units of health and only 9 gets through, or…? Brandon Sanderson Hemalurgic decay meaning someone who has been spiked is less powerful? That Hemalurgic decay, or the Hemalurgic decay when a Hemalurgic spike is left outside of blood? Kurkistan Less powerful. So like the Inquisitors are less powerful Feruchemists so they had to spend longer storing: so why did they have to spend longer storing? Brandon Sanderson Yeah they lose a little bit, it’s a leaky… You’re there, exactly. It just doesn’t quite… it’s not as efficient: it’s an efficiency thing. It's an efficiency deal, meaning that a Feruchemist who gained their powers via Hemalurgy would store the same amount of Investiture as another Feruchemist, they just get less effect out of what they tap. Maybe not a big deal to some, but this answers a few questions for me and I thought it worth sharing. Edited October 20, 2023 by Trusk'our 1
..... he/him Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Trusk'our said: I had been wondering how the weakening of Feruchemy worked for Hemalurgy for a while, whether the Hemalurgic Feruchemist could store less of an attribute or whether the taping was simply less effective. Well, I just found a WoB that tells us: Quote Calamity Chicago signing - Arcanum (coppermind.net) Kurkistan How exactly does Hemalurgic decay work for Feruchemy? Is it like a leaky tube or something, or…? Brandon Sanderson Yeah… yeah. Kurkistan So they try to store 10 units of health and only 9 gets through, or…? Brandon Sanderson Hemalurgic decay meaning someone who has been spiked is less powerful? That Hemalurgic decay, or the Hemalurgic decay when a Hemalurgic spike is left outside of blood? Kurkistan Less powerful. So like the Inquisitors are less powerful Feruchemists so they had to spend longer storing: so why did they have to spend longer storing? Brandon Sanderson Yeah they lose a little bit, it’s a leaky… You’re there, exactly. It just doesn’t quite… it’s not as efficient: it’s an efficiency thing. It's an efficiency deal, meaning that a Feruchemist who gained their powers via Hemalurgy would store the same amount of Investiture as another Feruchemist, they just get less effect out of what they tap. Maybe not a big deal to some, but this answers a few questions for me and I thought it worth sharing. so I think thats how it works for all feruchemy. for example any feruchemist that is weaker than another will be less efficient than the stronger one
Alumínio he/him Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, Trusk'our said: Eu estava me perguntando como o enfraquecimento da Feruquimia funcionava para a Hemalurgia há algum tempo, se o Feruquimista Hemalúrgico poderia armazenar menos atributos ou se a gravação era simplesmente menos eficaz. Bem, acabei de encontrar um WoB que nos diz: É um acordo de eficiência, o que significa que um Feruquimista que ganhasse seus poderes via Hemalurgia armazenaria a mesma quantidade de Investidura que outro Feruquimista, apenas obteria menos efeito com o que aproveitava. Talvez não seja grande coisa para alguns, mas isso responde a algumas perguntas para mim e achei que vale a pena compartilhar. If the attribute is removed in the same way and some part "leaks" then we could use the decay of some kind, is there a way around this? If I had a leaky hose and there was no way to fix it, I would put it in a garden or try to redirect the water to another end. Do you understand the analogy? Maybe to improve hemalurgy in some other way, store investiture, I don't know
Trusk'our he/him Posted October 20, 2023 Author Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, ..... said: so I think thats how it works for all feruchemy. for example any feruchemist that is weaker than another will be less efficient than the stronger one Yup, which makes it stand to reason that making said Feruchemy stronger would make it more efficient. This also may be the way it works with Allomancers in addition to them drawing more Investiture: Spoiler https://wob.coppermind.net/events/120/#e1901 Oversleep (paraphrased) Allomantic strength. There are stronger Allomancers, they can burn metals faster, right? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) Yes, they can also squeeze more power out of it. They can use it more efficiently. Oversleep (paraphrased) So there is some loss of power along the way? How do savants work into that? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) Savants can use it way more efficiently. They are more Connected to the Shard. Closer to Spiritual Realm. SA spoilers: Spoiler And this is how it works with Radiants as well; they don't draw more Investiture that other Radiants, as they aren't Allomancers and have to rely on Investiture in the Physical Realm in the form of Stromlight. However, as their powers get stronger, they require less Stormlight to get the same end results. EDIT: Quote If the attribute is removed in the same way and some part "leaks" then we could use the decay of some kind, is there a way around this? If I had a leaky hose and there was no way to fix it, I would put it in a garden or try to redirect the water to another end. Do you understand the analogy? Maybe to improve hemalurgy in some other way, store investiture, I don't know @Alumínio, I'd say it would be possible to do this if it is an actual form of leakage, but I think that the leaky hose analogy is just to help solidify the concept of Hemalurgic inefficiency. The Investiture all gets used up in the form of whatever power is being used, it just doesn't do its job as well as it could. If the Investiture does leak, there's at least one thing you could do. White Sand spoilers: Spoiler You could charge White Sand with the loss of Investiture. Edited October 20, 2023 by Trusk'our
..... he/him Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 so I have been thinking about hemalurgic decay and came up with this theory(SA spoilers) Spoiler Quote Questioner Hemalurgic spikes degrade very quickly, but Feruchemical metals can hold on to their charge forever, apparently. Is that just because Hemalurgy is corruptive? Brandon Sanderson Yes, though I may not say "forever." Questioner But it's much slower? Brandon Sanderson Yeah, way slower. Yes, it's the nature of Feruchemy and Hemalurgy. Skyward Denver signing (Nov. 15, 2018) so on roshar there are perfect gemstones that have a perfect chemical structure. they're fairly rare but they still exist. I'm thinking that to stop the decay of hemalurgy and feruchemy if you made a 100% perfect chemically structured metal mind or Spike then it wouldn't leak at all you could have more powerful hemalurgic abilities and your metalminds would last longer also I think the strength of feruchemist might have a little bit to do with whether or not they leak and how much. 2
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