Spheres vs shards

[Tamriel Wolfsbaine]

6 hours ago, therunner said:

Well mass grows with cube of the average linear size, so if you double hammer in every dimension, its weight will grow 8x.

100 kg of iron is 120x10x10 cm slab, 60 kg would be something like 72x10x10, the shaft would probably weight at least 10 kg as well. So it is possible the Shardhammer was more like ~80-100 kg in weight.
Steel would be a bit lighter, but the difference is few percent at most.

So yeah, Shardhammers are heavy.

Yeah, basically it is like Koloss swords, they are waay too large.
And Vin would be unable to wield them at all, just because of the momentum.

But it is cool

Nah, it was not that bad. Kaladin fell with speed human on earth would attain after falling only ~22 meters.

Which yeah, it is unlikely to be survivable for normal human (but there are cases of that). But as we saw with Miles in AoL, healing starts immediately after damage is done, so Kaladin was actively healing as he impacted. So as his legs were breaking, Stormlight was also putting them back together. Of course Stormlight was overwhelmed, and his legs were broken.

So just by the virtue of healing, Radiant can probably withstand more than normal human without showing damage (technically the damage is done, but it is healed basically immediately).

Frankly, I don't think you can swing hammer that fast. Swords can be swung at ~20 m/s (https://swordstem.com/2018/08/22/how-fast-do-swords-move-try-1/), and hammer would be slower than that due to how its mass is distributed.

I think the hammer can be swung at ~15 m/s at best. For even 100 kg Shardhammer that results in kinetic energy of just ~11 000 joules, so less than half of Kaladin's fall.

It is basically the same, in the ball the mass is also technically not hitting at once either. The differences because of this are waay beyond what we can do, and other stuff (like deformation of the objects) would start coming into play sooner, I think.

I don't remember hammer being used so I cannot comment.
But yeah Kaladin did crack 3 or 4 pieces.

True, but even lighter than they should be, Chasmfiend is still massive. Without madras they would weight in the neighborhood of hundreds of tons (they are 6 meters wide, 12 meters tall, and 24 meters long at least). They just need to make themselves light enough to not crush themselves, which basically means to get their mass grow less with size.
Since we don't know structural properties of their bodies it is difficult to estimate how the weight should behave, but I would say that Chasmfiend still weights dozens of tons at least.

I would also note that even in-universe, catching Chasmfiend foreclaw like that was a bit of a wtf moment, so its not like it was casual moment.

And as stated above, Shardhammer (while rule of cool influenced) won't move as fast as you think.

No it was stated they could barely lift it, and is being transported on carts because of the weight.

Hammers are relatively good shape to carry, as most of the weight is in the hammerhead itself. And if the hammer head is large enough for both hands, you can carry it like that.

Moved this whole thing to a different thread I mentioned you in.  

 

Edited September 20, 2023 by Tamriel Wolfsbaine