So I just listened to the song, "Let it go" and..

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In the song Elsa says, "I am one with the wind and sky" which makes me wonder what Kaladin would think about her claim. So, my question is, who would win in a fight. Elsa or Kaladin? Or would they just stop halfway through and start making out. I am sure there is some fan-fic on that topic if we dig hard enough.

[Erai Sedai he/him]

lol! fan-fic for the win

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[Ryan he/him]

My favorite interpretation of that song is as a song about farting in public. So, I guess Elsa wins. Kaladin owns the wind? Well, she breaks it.

[Delightful]

Kaladin. Elsa can't Defy Gravity and (WoR spoiler)

she doesn't have a sword or sharper reflexes etc.

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That would be a very visually cool fight though .

[Observer]

Delightful, you've edited several songs to fit the Cosmere before. How could you miss the chance to apply this to Defying Gravity!?

 

^{I do not take responsibility for the fact you almost certainly have already, I just want to be the one to suggest it on the off chance you have not.}

[Delightful]

Delightful, you've edited several songs to fit the Cosmere before. How could you miss the chance to apply this to Defying Gravity!?

 

^{I do not take responsibility for the fact you almost certainly have already, I just want to be the one to suggest it on the off chance you have not.}

I actually don't really know Defying Gravity, I just know of it. I haven't seen Wicked don't judge me. Maybe I'll look into it sometime though. Goodness knows there are enough Cosmere magic systems that involve flying.

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Kaladin. Elsa can't Defy Gravity and (WoR spoiler)

she doesn't have a sword or sharper reflexes etc.

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That would be a very visually cool fight though .

Imagine, if you dare, the Scarlet Witch meets Iceman. Think of her as a White Walker with the added bonus of having lived as a human. Isolated in her room, spending each waking hour alone, plotting the demise of every warm blooded creature.

Now, somewhere in her icy heart, there lies a shadowed soul. Born and raised in darkness. Only remembering the most fleeting moments of joy and compassion. Moments in which her child's body almost took the life of her sister. Was it by pure accident or was she just not yet strong enough to claim her victim's life? That innocent child she called "Sister." The one she cared for most. Yes, inside Elsa lies a danger more deadly than even Squirrel Girl! Squirrel Girl, a weaponized mass of flesh that carries the moniker "The Anti-Life, The Destroyer of All That Breathes!"

I mean, she could summon a beast of undying snow, wielding a sword whose blade is as frigid and deadly as she herself. Using her Satanic powers, forged in the depths of Hell itself, to instantaneously construct a barrier of ice and snow. A frosty prison that Kaladin and the other Knights Radiant would glimpse no hope of escape in. Even wielding Shards, that cut through all but the weight of their circumstances, would not save them. Leaving all those under her crystalline gaze, trapped and isolated. Until the inevitable moment when the ache of hunger and pain of frostbite, pushes them to claim their own sword's blade. To sever the soul that has now forgotten the warmth of not only the sun but those once alive. Alive, perhaps like they themselves once were.  

You should ask yourself, now. Do you REALLY want to build a snowman?

[Tien'sPetLurg she/her]

I think Syl could take on Marshmallow and Olaf.

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I think Syl could take on Marshmallow and Olaf.

I re-read my message then I read this. I spit out the pizza I was eating from the spontaneous laughter. Thank you! Also, /agree!

[Dellexe he/him]

Actually, if Elsa wanted to win she could probably kill Kaladin pretty easily, depending on how far away they were from each other at the start of the match.

-Sentient Constructs for cannon-fodder

-Ice spike ranged attack, can appear from basically nowhere

-Massive range on powers, possible reality warping

-Crossbow bolt reflexes

 

Yeah... Kaladin's kinda dead if they get into a serious fight.

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Actually, if Elsa wanted to win she could probably kill Kaladin pretty easily, depending on how far away they were from each other at the start of the match.

-Sentient Constructs for cannon-fodder

-Ice spike ranged attack, can appear from basically nowhere

-Massive range on powers, possible reality warping

-Crossbow bolt reflexes

 

Yeah... Kaladin's kinda dead if they get into a serious fight.

Man, I have to believe you're an RTS player. That was a great breakdown of strategy and understanding of advantage versus counter effects. Good job sir!

[Dellexe he/him]

Man, I have to believe you're an RTS player. That was a great breakdown of strategy and understanding of advantage versus counter effects. Good job sir!

A childhood spent playing the Total War games, a couple years ago I played some Starcraft.

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It also helps one of my favourite sites is Factpile, a debating site. I'm kinda used to doing this type of thing.

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One advantage that Kaladin has in this match though is that Elsa's ice magic travels fastest along surfaces and forms more slowly in mid air. She might not be able to construct a defensive barrier above her fast enough if he blitzes her from above. Then again, kingdom-wide magic. Range isn't really an issue for her, so as long as he doesn't surprise her she should be fine.

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I can't really take credit for my breakdown of feats, though. Most of it I recalled from the Elsa VS Firelord Ozai match. I've actually never seen Frozen (besides a few clips on YouTube).

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A childhood spent playing the Total War games, a couple years ago I played some Starcraft.

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It also helps one of my favourite sites is Factpile, a debating site. I'm kinda used to doing this type of thing.

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One advantage that Kaladin has in this match though is that Elsa's ice magic travels fastest along surfaces and forms more slowly in mid air. She might not be able to construct a defensive barrier above her fast enough if he blitzes her from above. Then again, kingdom-wide magic. Range isn't really an issue for her, so as long as he doesn't surprise her she should be fine.

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I can't really take credit for my breakdown of feats, though. Most of it I recalled from the Elsa VS Firelord Ozai match. I've actually never seen Frozen (besides a few clips on YouTube).

Well, I just bookmarked FactPile. It seems like a site I would love. I really like discussing and debating things like that, with people who aren't just being jackasses and wanting to be hateful and/or argumentative. If you can have a calm rational discussion, with spirit, I will participate all day long. That was one of my favorite parts of playing Magic:The Gathering in tournaments, having the ability to out think, as well as have unexpected answers for, my opponent. It was exciting and intellectually stimulating. I really miss it, come to think of it. It was a great hobby for me personally, as someone who appreciates battles of wits. (Just got a mental image of a bunch of different Hoids fighting each other.)

Yeah, I've only seen Frozen one time. It was a cute movie, and there was a lot to like about it when trying to view it with a kid's eyes. Which, I never grew up enough to feel childish for watching things like "Adventure Time" and the like. So, if it is entertaining, I'll watch it. The things you mentioned are all there in the movie. I even googled the "Elsa vs. Fire Lord Ozai" thing you mentioned to read it. I honestly want to know who won now. That's a pretty awesome match up. If not him, then Flame Princess from "Adventure Time" simply because they are both elemental princess that live in a kingdom of their element. Both were stuck inside throughout most of their lives. One was held prisoner by her father, the other her powers and love for her sister. They are both able to really let loose (or let it go, as it were) and wreak some havoc. I think it shows in the episode "Flame and Frost" what FP can do. She takes Ice King to task. Wow, yeah, I'm 33, so what? I'm eating a stick of Laffy Taffy while I type this... what's your problem?

About Kaladin, he has that wind guidance precognition thing. He also can move inside of the ice using lashings, I would imagine. He, unlike other shard bearers, has more control over his shard, so he could summon it as a Shuriken and where it wouldn't be stopped by anything, would be able to slice right through any obstacle that Ilse would place in its way. Should would have to figure out a way to "last clap" it in order to impede its movement. If he knew how and where to throw it, he could take her down pretty easily if he didn't maneuver or parry just right. If you take away his Shard though, I think it's all Ilse and that's saying something.

[Dellexe he/him]

Oh there are definitely some trolls/argumentative people on Factpile. I've learned to mostly ignore them, though, and focus on the people who are actually using sound reasoning in their arguments.

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Most matches go fairly smoothly, without significant amounts of bad debating. That said, there are some fanboy/girls out there who really can't stand the idea of their favourite character losing, and end up dragging debates on for quite some time. My advice: Don't look at a match with Richard Rahl, Dante (Devil May Cry), or Warhammer 40K. Those matches tend to get pretty... Salty.

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Another warning: There's no serious rules regarding language on Factpile, so some guys use it to emphasize points they want to make.

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My name used to be Kaladin Stormblessed (original, eh?), but I've since changed it to KalaDellexe.

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Oh there are definitely some trolls/argumentative people on Factpile. I've learned to mostly ignore them, though, and focus on the people who are actually using sound reasoning in their arguments.

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Most matches go fairly smoothly, without significant amounts of bad debating. That said, there are some fanboy/girls out there who really can't stand the idea of their favourite character losing, and end up dragging debates on for quite some time. My advice: Don't look at a match with Richard Rahl, Dante (Devil May Cry), or Warhammer 40K. Those matches tend to get pretty... Salty.

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Another warning: There's no serious rules regarding language on Factpile, so some guys use it to emphasize points they want to make.

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My name used to be Kaladin Stormblessed (original, eh?), but I've since changed it to KalaDellexe.

My first character in this Pen and Paper game that let you be gunslingers... Vash the Stampede from the Anime "Tri-Gun". So, yeah, I played Vampire the Masquerade, character name, Pheonix Awesomeguy or something like that. Don't be embarrassed by it. I then went on to play Everquest for 11 years dual boxing a rogue and cleric named Fiction the Myth and Salvint the Savior (yes they both had titles, cause I am awesome and knew the developers! #humblebrag #bragbrag #whatshumble?) I will definitely look for you though.

I don't get offended. I curse like a sailor and have to reign it in here because I know it's not appropriate or respectful on top of it being filtered out anyway. So, salty is sweet to me.

I get what you're saying about fan boys and girls. I honestly lost my cool on a YouTube video, for the first time in years and years, because I said 14 different ways, in the nicest way possible, that Dragon Age 2 was a terrible sequel. This girl kept saying it wasn't a bad game. I said, well, that may be, but it's still a horrendous sequel. If you expect a sprawling epic, with meticulous turn based combat or fast paced twitch gaming, party members that you really get to interact with and play through the game again and again with different combinations to hear how two different members will react to each other and then you get...DA2, you feel robbed! One City...One Race, for you main character.... Nothing new, but you also get less! Backtracking the same dungeon 3 or more times! Underwhelming is an overstatement of its enjoyability.

I said it was my opinion and it would be like going to the store and being given a bag of apples. Crisp and delicious, 5 apples for 3 dollars. Then going back a week later and being given a bag of rotten, half mushed apples and getting 2 for 3 dollars. You would feel ripped off. Sure, if the second bag was the first, your comparison wouldn't make it so much worse, but that's the way it was given to you. So, what do you do? Stop going to that store or do like I said and give them one more chance? Knowing they have the potential to give you what you want.

This girl argued that I was calling her stupid for liking the game. Then I said it was a fact that the majority of people who played it didn't like it, which is a measurable fact. Opinions are personal and only relate to what you think. Though, when you have a group of people who are all disappointed by a sequel. It makes it a bad sequel, empirically. That she seemed to enjoy the game doesn't make the game good, but the fact everyone who played the first, thought it failed, makes it a bad sequel.

She then said I was upset that my opinions weren't facts...ugh, I get mad just thinking about it. I had to mute the thread to keep from getting angry all over again every time it popped up. The worst part is I know better. I'm 33 and have been dealing with internet forums and chat since like 1996. Almost 20 years. I have heard the old adage, "Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics..." Which I won't finish here for propriety sake. Let's just say, if she was trolling, she was a good one because she seemed just adamant enough to make me think she was serious. Which made it that much worse to me. Because she was playing the victim, like everyone was picking on her for liking a crappy game. Which, wasn't the case at all. We were trying to explain, the game may be good (to her), if it weren't called Dragon Age 2. If it were, Loathering City, the demo. You would then get exactly what you paid for. Yet, calling a pig a cow, does not make your pork chops taste like steak. In most cases it will leave you disappointed, in the pork chop. When it would have been fine, if you just called it a pork chop to begin with. So, I do understand about uber fans who don't get what's wrong with their favorite thing and despite this novella undermining this point, I usually have thick skin on the internet. lol

[cem he/him]

http://www.outerplaces.com/universe/technology/item/5209-the-science-behind-frozen-princess-elsa-is-comparable-to-an-a-bomb

 

Elsa is like a tiny god guys. Kaladin would be an utter moron to get into that fight.