Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 I am a huge fan of leechers and nicrobursts but I feel like there is a massively limiting factor that they must face... the touch attack. I know we have primer cubes to help get around that to an extent but I am curious if anyone has thoughts on potential other ways around that touching range limitation? Being a bondsmith would likely help, however you wouldn't really need to be a metalborn at all at that point to accomplish the same task. I was wondering if awakening something to be a part of you might allow you to extent your reach outward to the extent of a long rope or ribbon? Duralumin connection? What about a aetherbound like twinsoul? Could his aether branch out with creeping roseite vines and touch the other person to create a touch like connection? Spoiler Potential with any other aether types? Could a spren bond help? If you had your invisible spren touch the target would you be able to use your allomantic nicrosil or chromium through them?
alder24 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 32 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Being a bondsmith would likely help, however you wouldn't really need to be a metalborn at all at that point to accomplish the same task. Bondsmiths also need to touch. 33 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: I was wondering if awakening something to be a part of you might allow you to extent your reach outward to the extent of a long rope or ribbon? Very unlikely it would work just like that. But there might be something that can be done with it: Spoiler Questioner In Awakening an object when you give it the sort of Command like, go get the keys, or something. How does that object perceive the world around it? Since it doesn't have standard human senses, how does it see? How does it touch? Brandon Sanderson It is not-- Moderator Repeat the question. Brandon Sanderson Oh… go ahead. Moderator The question was, how do Awakened objects actually perceive the world. Brandon Sanderson …The closest correlation you have to this is how Inquisitors see. Questioner Okay, following up on that say, someone who has-- say someone with bronze who-- a bronze Misting managed to somehow get access to Breath and Awaken would he then be able to tell that object "Hey I sense this Allomancer over there, can you find it". Brandon Sanderson That is not outside the realm of possibility. JordanCon 2016 (April 23, 2016) 33 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Duralumin connection? It's less about connection it's about physical touch. But it might help. 35 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: What about a aetherbound like twinsoul? Could his aether branch out with creeping roseite vines and touch the other person to create a touch like connection? I don't think so. That's an Aether. 36 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Could a spren bond help? If you had your invisible spren touch the target would you be able to use your allomantic nicrosil or chromium through them? No. Spren don't have Allomancy.
Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted June 14, 2023 Author Posted June 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, alder24 said: Bondsmiths also need to touch. Is the idea of a bondsmith connecting themselves to the ground and thus everyone on the ground a bit of a stretch? The idea that they could leech another person simply through both parties connection to the ground they stand on? I have often been skeptical of this... what makes the air flowing around them any different than the ground? Either way that idea is where I came to that conclusion. I'm all for anything to disprove an ability I think is busted haha.
External Gills he/him Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 Soulcasting normally needs touch, but Elsecallers can do it at a distance. Maybe whatever method they use (resonance with the Surge of Transportation?) could be extended to Leechers.
alder24 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Is the idea of a bondsmith connecting themselves to the ground and thus everyone on the ground a bit of a stretch? The idea that they could leech another person simply through both parties connection to the ground they stand on? Yes. Not what we saw. It's the other way around. Bondsmith needs to touch not only that person, but also the ground to connect them to the ground. If Bondsmith would want to connect somebody to themself, they would need to touch that person and later themself. 1 hour ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: I have often been skeptical of this... what makes the air flowing around them any different than the ground? Either way that idea is where I came to that conclusion. I'm all for anything to disprove an ability I think is busted haha. Read RoW. 1 hour ago, External Gills said: Soulcasting normally needs touch, but Elsecallers can do it at a distance. Maybe whatever method they use (resonance with the Surge of Transportation?) could be extended to Leechers. It's hard but Lightweavers can do that too. That's the nature of Soulcasting. This is separate from Allomancy. Spoiler Questioner Is Jasnah being able to Soulcast at a distance the resonance of her two Surges or is that just a Radiant thing that's not with the fabrials. Brandon Sanderson Jasnah's Order is better at that than others. It is not impossible that you could imagine a Lightweaver being able to do it. Starsight Release Party (Nov. 26, 2019) 1
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