cometaryorbit Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) On 6/15/2023 at 0:53 PM, Underwater_Worldhopper said: A Shard wouldn't want something like Nightblood existing, regardless of what it's made of. Actually, given Endowment's comment in her letter about 'if Rayse becomes a problem he will be dealt with', I think that might be exactly why she intervened in making Nightblood. On 6/16/2023 at 7:18 AM, Koloss17 said: On a side note: we know that the more Invested something is, the more sentient it will be, but does that work the other way around? Do sentient things need to be sufficiently Invested? I think for regular Physical beings like humans or singers -- regular reproduction, not Preservation creating a new start of humanity from scratch -- it might be more like the new sentient/sapient being just kind of automatically "attracting" or "being assigned" Investiture in the Spiritual Realm. This WoB implies that "pull[ing] Investiture for a soul" is just kind of default when a sapient being is created. But I don't think parents lose Investiture when they have a child. There's infinite (or close enough) Investiture in the Spiritual Realm, and souls/spiritwebs are all in the Spiritual. This isn't a matter of actually drawing Investiture into the Physical Realm, just reassigning it within the Spiritual (a new Identity and its Connections). The same probably applies for anything, really. An object has a spiritual aspect made of Investiture. A human soul's just larger/more complex and has more Investiture. But the same principles probably apply. The Investiture's already there in the Spiritual, but a new Identity "labels" it now. Quote VindicationKnight If you cloned someone using real life technology (so not magic) would they have a normal Cognitive and Spiritual make up or be something like a Drab? Brandon Sanderson Cloning would most likely work like creating a twin--the body would pull Investiture for a soul, and you probably wouldn't have a drab. Though it would be possible to do it in such a way that you did create one, if you're simply working from our current cloning technology, you'd get a fully invested human being. /r/books AMA 2015 (July 2015) Edited June 22, 2023 by cometaryorbit
Leuthie Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 On 6/16/2023 at 5:18 AM, Koloss17 said: On a side note: we know that the more Invested something is, the more sentient it will be, but does that work the other way around? Do sentient things need to be sufficiently Invested? You're looking for Drabs on Nalthis. A Nalthian gives up their Breath and becomes a less Invested sentient being: From The Coppermind: Quote Without Breath, colors lose their vibrancy and their other senses are dulled. Contrary to what many people believe in Hallandren,[37] being without a breath has significant negative effects. They feel less emotion and are more susceptible to depression. A person's allure decreases, as does the strength of their immune system. The latter stems from the fact that Breath acts as a sort of magical booster for the body, and thus the body doesn't need to build up immunity.[38][39] Due to these facts, they typically have a shorter lifespan. Drabs lack life sense (the instinctive feeling to know if someone is watching them) and do not register on the life sense of others.[40] A Drab is also incapable of Returning.[41] Conversely, a dead body given life using Breath can be given more Breath and gain personality: Quote A Lifeless holding more than just the Breath that Awakened them are more self-aware than others. They would begin to form a personality, much like a Cognitive Shadow.[10][11] Probably the impetus for giving 1000 Breaths to a steel sword.
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