Scars of Hathsin he/him Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 I have a few questions on soulbearers ferrings. 1. Could a soulbearer if given the opportunity take the powers out of the Bands of Mourning, as they are metalminds anyone can use? 2. What would a soulbearer compounding other powers do?
Treamayne Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Scars of Hathsin said: I have a few questions on soulbearers ferrings. 1. Could a soulbearer if given the opportunity take the powers out of the Bands of Mourning, as they are metalminds anyone can use? 2. What would a soulbearer compounding other powers do? WoBs - Brandon has RAFOed all things regarding Soulbearers, so we don't really know that they could store a specific aspect of an invested art, much less how compounding or other applications would play out. All we really know is that "it's not quite the same as how Medallions use Nicrosil." Coppermind
StanLemon Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 9 hours ago, Treamayne said: WoBs - Brandon has RAFOed all things regarding Soulbearers, so we don't really know that they could store a specific aspect of an invested art, much less how compounding or other applications would play out. All we really know is that "it's not quite the same as how Medallions use Nicrosil." Coppermind Additionally he has said they are more flexible than the medallions Quote Calderis Does the nicrosil portion of the medallions function identitically to how a Soulbearer Ferring would use Nicrosil? Brandon Sanderson Not exactly. The medallion is a little more restrictive, for one thing. Skyward Pre-Release AMA (Oct. 31, 2018) 1
Trusk'our he/him Posted April 19, 2023 Posted April 19, 2023 On 4/18/2023 at 8:06 AM, StanLemon said: Additionally he has said they are more flexible than the medallions Likely because the Medallions have an Identity of their own; their kind of like their own separate entity that people can draw power from, rather than just a battery a Feruchemist created to manipulate and draw upon at a later time as they please. Quote https://wob.coppermind.net/events/509/#e15930 Raddatatta In Era 1, Sazed says the only thing you can Feruchemically store while sleeping is wakefulness, but in Era 2 they have the sky ships that require everyone to be storing weight to fly and they don't land while people sleep. Was Sazed just wrong, or is that a difference between normal Feruchemy and using the unsealed metalminds? Brandon Sanderson Unsealed metalminds, I am moving toward complete—you probably already guessed this—mechanical uses of Investiture, and this indeed is a step toward that. And so we are stepping toward having a little machine that gives you powers. That's what the world wants to try to find. And this is—this being mechanical—we'll just say that the medallions and the things that they're building have more of a life-force, more of an Identity of their own than a traditional metalmind does, even though they're unkeyed and all of this stuff. Additionally, Medallions may be considered more "external" than regular innate Feruchemy, since the power is coming from another source (the nicrosil portion, at least). Quote https://wob.coppermind.net/events/100/#e3415 mooglefrooglian If metals shape the Investiture in Allomancy, causing a Steelpush or whatever, how is it that the mists can be used to perform the same feat? What is 'shaping' the inhaled mists into a Steelpush, if there's no metal "nozzle" to do so? Brandon Sanderson Consistently through the cosmere, once you have the power in hand and it has permeated you, will becomes your nozzle. This can be seen in Warbreaker, where the power has been distributed and inhabits the people. The nozzle idea is important for Magics that are drawing power externally, as it keeps the power from overwhelming and destroying you. (Which, basically, happened to Vin at the end of the Trilogy--she got consumed by the magic. She became something new, now, so it didn't KILL her. It destroyed what she was, transformed her into something else.) So you see magics like on Sel and Scadrial where a specific nozzle is needed--as the power source is external, at least with Allomancy. Will and intent take a backseat, though still pop up on occasion. On Nalthis (and in a lesser way, Roshar) will and intent are more important, and what you are trying to do shapes the magic more directly. A little direct manifestation in this is found in the subtle differences between Allomancy and Feruchemy. In Allomancy, when you enhance the senses, you just get a blast of power--and all senses are enhanced, whether you want them all or not. In Feruchemy, you can be more precise, and pick a specific sense to store. The power is internal here, and therefore more limited in how much you can draw--but you can also be more precise with its manipulation. Note that Roshar Surgebinding is a special case, as the magical symbiosis there is stronger than it is on other worlds, as much of the magic involves bits of power who have become sapient. uchoo786 How much crossover is there in use? Like if one "breathes" in the mists they can use it to power their allomancy. Could an Allomancer utilize stormlight to power his allomancy as well? Brandon Sanderson Most of the magics can be hacked together in one way or another, but some are easier to interchange than others. It would be cool to see if perhaps because of this that medallions can't let you tap as quickly as you could with natural Feruchemy, or perhaps you can't control it as well? It would be a reasonable limitation (could help explain why the Malwish don't have a bunch of Steelrunner soldiers), and I could see it happening based on its mechanics.
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