"Something of their own"

[11thorderknight]

So a while back, before Words of Radiance, I remember Brandon talking about the surgebinding system during an interview, and he described how each Order of the Knights had two surges that they shared with the adjacent orders. But he also said something to the effect that each Order would have something unique to them. In another interview, this one after WoR, he said that the actual surges would work the same way for the two orders that get access to them. 

 

There's been speculation that each order will get a "combo" effect of the surges, but this seems awkward. So my theory is that the unique attribute of each order is something that's not inherently stormlight-dependent, but is simply a byproduct of the bond. There's some evidence of this so far:

 

Windrunners - Kaladin is an extremely effective fighter, especially when defending himself or others. We have multiple descriptions that say how he moves with the wind, at one point he thinks that he could almost fight with his eyes closed. Almost like a Jedi using the Force! My theory is that Windrunners get enhanced spacial perception/reflexes. Bet it comes in handy when changing the direction of gravity, too.

 

Lightweavers - this one's easy; we have lots of descriptions of Shallan's "Memories" and WoB that they are more than just her being ordinarily gifted. We also have mention in Words of Radiance (the in-book book) of the order having various mnemonic abilities. My theory here is that each Lightweaver gets some mental ability related to their chosen artistic medium; Shallan, as a drawer/painter, gets photographic memory, a musician might get perfect pitch, a poet might get perfect verbal memory/rhyming, and so forth.

 

Elsecallers - less evidence that the previous two, but Wit/Hoid makes a very significant remark about Jasnah having a very good sense of direction. Maybe geographic sense, the way certain birds always know where north is? Would fit with them being able to teleport.

 

Truthwatchers - Renarin says he "sees things", which isn't explained by either of his surges. Prophetic dreams, maybe? Or being able to notice things that are subtle/hidden?

 

Bondsmiths - No solid clue, though pretty sure it will deal with the nature of the Nahel bond (again, according to Words of Radiance).

 

The rest are a total mystery. Though it would be cool if Skybreakers could tell when people are lying!

[Kurkistan he/him]

This WoB might be of interest to you.

 

Source:

Q [31:13]: Shallan has this awesome Memory thing going on, Jasnah has this geolocation thing, Kaladin is a really good fighter - are those just their traits, or is there something supernatural going on? (You will notice my amazing mastery over the English language here, expressed in these beautifully structured sentences...)

A: There is something supernatural about those. Each Order... Well, how about this. If you look at scholars' interpretations, there are some scholars who think that these things are not supernatural, and some who think that they are. But, if you look, many Lightweavers had powerful mnemonic abilities.
Q: So it's definitely tied to the Orders?
A: It's tied to the Orders. Now, I am not going to say that you've got them all 100% correct, but each Order, there are things that come with Order, things that do not add up from simple the "you get this power plus this power," there is something else going on. And I would say that for Windrunners, watch the number of squires and the power of the squires... these are abnormal for the Windrunners.
Q: And each Order's squires are somehow different from the other Orders'?
A: Yeeeaaaa... some Orders do not have them.
Q: But some have more?
A: Yea.

Edited June 11, 2014 by Kurkistan

[shawnhargreaves he/him]

I wholeheartedly agree with this theory.

 

 

Bondsmiths - No solid clue, though pretty sure it will deal with the nature of the Nahel bond (again, according to Words of Radiance).

 

The rest are a total mystery. Though it would be cool if Skybreakers could tell when people are lying!

 

The Bondsmith ability could be something to do with how Dalinar is able to receive his visions.

[High prince of geeks he/him]

I thought Kaladin's effect was that wind doesn't affect him as much and when he flies(falls) the windsrpen fly around him making the wind have less effect. Or maybe this is just how honorspren are like windspren

[Swimmingly he/him]

Heh, I've been reading too much Worm. I just realised I was parsing this aseach order getting a low-to-mid level Thinker power.

[Kurkistan he/him]

Heh, I've been reading too much Worm. I just realised I was parsing this aseach order getting a low-to-mid level Thinker power.

 

A nice way to think about it.

 

Though I suppose Squires are a Trump power...

[Swimmingly he/him]

Mid-high brute, high striker sub mover, blaster, low-mid thinker, mid trump sub low-mid brute, mid changer (Shardblade). I'll stop now.

[11thorderknight]

This WoB might be of interest to you.

 

Source:

This quote is actually what I was thinking of! I really like the idea of each order being something other than just A+B, B+C, and so on. 

 

Incidentally, the part where he's talking about the squires seems almost evasive. He tells us that some orders don't have any squires, and the Windrunners have more than the others, and possibly more powerful ones than the others. But he sort of evades saying anything about whether the squires of different orders will have different powers. Makes me think they won't - that they'll be able to use stormlight, but not surges.

[PorridgeBrick he/him]

This quote is actually what I was thinking of! I really like the idea of each order being something other than just A+B, B+C, and so on. 

 

Incidentally, the part where he's talking about the squires seems almost evasive. He tells us that some orders don't have any squires, and the Windrunners have more than the others, and possibly more powerful ones than the others. But he sort of evades saying anything about whether the squires of different orders will have different powers. Makes me think they won't - that they'll be able to use stormlight, but not surges.

Well, something I've been thinking of for a while is whether they get the "something of their own" bit that each order has. So a Windrunner squire would have the crazy space perception/battle senses, Skybreaker squires would be human lie detectors perhaps, etc. That way, all the different squires are differentiated, but still less powerful than their Radiants, who have the surges. It also unifies each order more, as both Radiants and their squires would have one ability in common.

[shawnhargreaves he/him]

Well, something I've been thinking of for a while is whether they get the "something of their own" bit that each order has. So a Windrunner squire would have the crazy space perception/battle senses, Skybreaker squires would be human lie detectors perhaps, etc. That way, all the different squires are differentiated

 

This.

 

It wouldn't make sense for squires to get all the same powers as their Radiant, but also I have a hard time with all squires getting identical powers no matter what order of Radiant they bonded to.   Radiant bonds to spren = gets different powers depending what type of spren.   Squire bonds to Radiant = same deal, should be different depending what type of Radiant.

 

It Feels Right

Edited June 12, 2014 by shawnhargreaves

[Fifth of Daybreak he/him]

I've been mulling this idea in my head for a while, I'm glad you started a thread on it. Here's my speculation for the orders that we know about:

 

Windrunner: Leadership to the extreme. Hence the high number of Squires. Even when Kaladin isn't trying to inspire anyone, he does, like in the slave wagons when he's given up. The other slaves still look up to him for guidance. 

 

Lightweaver: Emotional Soulcasting. Shallan affects those around her, molding them into better people. In the Lahn interlude, Pei says something to the effect of "people no longer recast their souls into something greater," and there's the talk of spiritual sustenance in the WoR epigraphs. 

 

Skybreaker: I'm not sure if I'd simplify it to a 'human lie detector,' but along those lines. The epigraphs refer to the Skybreakers dividing the innocent from the guilty, and on the same in world WoR page, as listed by the epigraphs, it also said their abilities "for making suh ammounted to an almost diving skill." I'm assuming this is refering to dividing the innocent from the guilty. 

 

Truthwatcher: Visions of the future, as in world examples show. This makes a lot of sense to me because of adding Illumination with Progression. Illuminating the progression of time. 

 

Bondsmiths: This one comes from their epigraph about Melishi, and also from their name, and what we know of the Parshendi. I'm fairly sure that at one point, they refer to slave form as "those without spren." I'm assuming that the Bondsmiths have abilities unique to messing with spiritual bonds, and they were able to sever the bonds of the Parshendi, and might have to do with the recreance.

 

Elsecallers: They have the ability to manifest physically in the cognitive realm, and enact change, giving them powerful abilities in Shadesmar, this is an elementary analysis, but unfortunately it's the best I can come up with using what little knowledge we have. 

 

As for the other orders, I can't begin to guess without more information. 

[Moogle]

Skybreaker: I'm not sure if I'd simplify it to a 'human lie detector,' but along those lines. The epigraphs refer to the Skybreakers dividing the innocent from the guilty, and on the same in world WoR page, as listed by the epigraphs, it also said their abilities "for making suh ammounted to an almost diving skill." I'm assuming this is refering to dividing the innocent from the guilty.

 

Here's the full quote (emphasis added by me):

The considerable abilities of the Skybreakers for making such amounted to an almost divine skill, for which no specific Surge or spren grants capacity, but however the order came to such an aptitude, the fact of it was real and acknowledged even by their rivals. —From Words of Radiance, chapter 28, page 3

 

The spren bond is what gives these supernatural abilities to the Radiants. Without Syl, Kaladin could no longer fight well. I would guess that Nalan was just really good at finding people for his order with an innate talent for whatever these "considerable abilities" are, or else he trained his members to be good at that thing.

 

Bondsmiths: This one comes from their epigraph about Melishi, and also from their name, and what we know of the Parshendi. I'm fairly sure that at one point, they refer to slave form as "those without spren." I'm assuming that the Bondsmiths have abilities unique to messing with spiritual bonds, and they were able to sever the bonds of the Parshendi, and might have to do with the recreance.

 

Strongly disagree. Again, the quote:

So Melishi retired to his tent, and resolved to destroy the Voidbringers upon the next day, but that night did present a different stratagem, related to the unique abilities of the Bondsmiths; and being hurried, he could make no specific account of his process; it was related to the very nature of the Heralds and their divine duties, an attribute the Bondsmiths alone could address. —From Words of Radiance, chapter 30, page 18

 

Specifically: "the night did present a different stratagem" has a strong, strong connection to Dalinar's vision-dream. I would suggest that Bondsmiths get Spiritual visions (to go with the Pious Divine Attribute), Melishi got this, and it sparked an idea that lead him to a new idea for a strategy to deal with the Voidbringers. I would further suggest that Bondsmiths get the ability to be supreme tacticians from their Guiding attribute; note how Dalinar tells Aladar during a gemheart run exactly what to do to win?

 

I highly, highly doubt that he gained some sort of ability to sever Spiritual connections. Most every other supernatural ability each Radiant has is a "natural" attribute boosted to incredible levels. People remember things normally; Shallan remembers things perfectly. People are charismatic; despite being a huge grump, Kaladin inspires fanatical loyalty and makes people trust him.

 

 

I get the feeling I've posted this before, but here's a quick prediction for me on all the Orders and linking their Divine Attributes to their abilities. From the Melishi quote, we see there is a connection to the divine duties of the Heralds, so I think they link up quite nicely. I anticipate there being two things for each Order.

 

Windrunners: Protecting/Leading. Supernatural combat skill, supernatural charisma.

Skybreakers: Just/Confident. Supernatural lie detection, supernatural composure (ie. the best poker face around; don't play poker with a Skybreaker), and likely some third skill Nalan gave them all.

Dustbringers: Brave/Obedient. Haven't the slightest. Apparently Chanarach was really good at races, though, so perhaps some sort of supernatural endurance or speed?

Edgedancers: Loving/Healing. Supernatural empathy (can tell when someone is lying, what they're feeling), supernatural persuasion or ability to help people out. We know the Edgedancers were the most eloquent Order.

Truthwatchers: Learned/Giving. Supernatural learning skills (visions?), no clue.

Lightweavers: Creative/Honest. Supernatural art skills, supernatural memories (which handles 'honest' if you stretch things).

Elsecallers: Wise/Careful. Supernatural deductive skills, supernatural danger sense.

Willshapers: Resolute/Builder. Supernatural stubbornness (never get discouraged, always have tons of energy), supernatural ability to construct a plan and follow it through (which should lead to them being quite good at combat).

Stonewards: Dependable/Resourceful. Supernatural hardiness/determination (think Boromir still fighting with ten arrows in him), supernatural luck or just a general ability to be good at everything.

Bondsmiths: Pious/Guiding. Dream-visions and supernatural strategic sense.

 

 

I'm also a huge fan of linking up the theory of linking Orders with 'Spiritual' versions of their Surges, like Shallan's Transformation/Illumination lets her 'transform' people Spiritually and help them out emotionally. The theory doesn't work too well, though.

Edited June 12, 2014 by Moogle

[ccstat he/him]

For what it's worth, I have interpreted the WoR quote about Skybreakers as referring to their propensity to start arguments. The two same-page quotes aren't necessarily consecutive, but it seems like they might be:

There came also sixteen of the order of Windrunners, and with them a considerable number of squires, and finding in that place the Skybreakers dividing the innocent from the guilty, there ensued a great debate.

 

The considerable abilities of the Skybreakers for making such amounted to an almost divine skill, for which no specific Surge or spren grants capacity, but however the order came to such an aptitude, the fact of it was real and acknowledged even by their rivals.

 

 

The other WoR quote about the Skybreakers tends to support this reading. It says (essentially) that Nale took a really long time to acknowledge them, partly because of his own issues and partly because they were annoyingly fractious. 

And thus were the disturbances in the Revv toparchy quieted, when, upon their ceasing to prosecute their civil dissensions, Nalan’Elin betook himself to finally accept the Skybreakers who had named him their master, when initially he had spurned their advances and, in his own interests, refused to countenance that which he deemed a pursuit of vanity and annoyance; this was the last of the Heralds to admit to such patronage.

[Moogle]

For what it's worth, I have interpreted the WoR quote about Skybreakers as referring to their propensity to start arguments. The two same-page quotes aren't necessarily consecutive, but it seems like they might be:

 

The other WoR quote about the Skybreakers tends to support this reading. It says (essentially) that Nale took a really long time to acknowledge them, partly because of his own issues and partly because they were annoyingly fractious. 

 

I really like this idea. I think you might be right.

 

As to the "civil dissension" thing, though, I'd argue that the quote supports Nalan taking the Skybreakers after they stopped trying to punish anyone who took part in a civil war in Revv, or something along those lines. Nalan realized that the Skybreakers as a whole could put their emotions behind them and would just follow the law, even though they didn't want to. (I'm imagining that the people in the civil war were terrible people, but they eventually won, and so their law became 'official' and so the Skybreakers started following it. Nalan would approve of that sort of thing.)

Edited June 12, 2014 by Moogle

[Fifth of Daybreak he/him]

Thanks for providing a few of the quotes. I guess I can stop being lazy and pull a few more out. 

 

 
Here's the full quote (emphasis added by me):
The considerable abilities of the Skybreakers for making such amounted to an almost divine skill, for which no specific Surge or spren grants capacity, but however the order came to such an aptitude, the fact of it was real and acknowledged even by their rivals. —From Words of Radiance, chapter 28, page 3
 
The spren bond is what gives these supernatural abilities to the Radiants. Without Syl, Kaladin could no longer fight well. I would guess that Nalan was just really good at finding people for his order with an innate talent for whatever these "considerable abilities" are, or else he trained his members to be good at that thing.
 

 

 

I'm personally hoping that Brandon worded that question that Kurk posted to leave it open to interpretation, because I am more apt to agree with those that those abilities were not purely from the spren bond. Kaladin learns at an incredible rate. He is good at fighting without Syl. I interpreted the scene where he tries to fight in the rain as more the result of his internal struggle, not the lack of Syl. He made a choice that was vitriolic not just to Syl and the bond, but to Kaladin as well. Not to mention trying to do it on a leg that had been chomped on by a Chasmfiend.

 

 

 Here's the Epigraph I think Brandon is referencing in the earlier post:

 

 

These Lightweavers by no coincidence included many who pursed the arts; namely writers, artists, musicians, painters, sculptors. Considering order's general temperament, the tales of their strange and varied mneumonic abilities may have been embellished.

-From Words of Radiance, chapter 21, page 10

WoR Chapter 49

 

Is it the bond that makes the them great, or greatness that makes the bond?  I am inclined to believe that they had those abilities already, savants in their field, and that potential is what attracts the spren. 

 

 

Strongly disagree. Again, the quote:

So Melishi retired to his tent, and resolved to destroy the Voidbringers upon the next day, but that night did present a different stratagem, related to the unique abilities of the Bondsmiths; and being hurried, he could make no specific account of his process; it was related to the very nature of the Heralds and their divine duties, an attribute the Bondsmiths alone could address. —From Words of Radiance, chapter 30, page 18
 
Specifically: "the night did present a different stratagem" has a strong, strong connection to Dalinar's vision-dream. I would suggest that Bondsmiths get Spiritual visions (to go with the Pious Divine Attribute), Melishi got this, and it sparked an idea that lead him to a new idea for a strategy to deal with the Voidbringers. I would further suggest that Bondsmiths get the ability to be supreme tacticians from their Guiding attribute; note how Dalinar tells Aladar during a gemheart run exactly what to do to win?
 

 

You've sold me on this. I got really excited when I read it. 

 

 

I highly, highly doubt that he gained some sort of ability to sever Spiritual connections. Most every other supernatural ability each Radiant has is a "natural" attribute boosted to incredible levels. People remember things normally; Shallan remembers things perfectly. People are charismatic; despite being a huge grump, Kaladin inspires fanatical loyalty and makes people trust him. 

 

But it's not all natural abilites. Dalinar sees visions of the past, why I would completely overlook that I have no idea, but that makes much more sense than my original thought of the spiritual connections. But Renarin sees visions of the future. Shallan changes people, look at the battle at the caravans, and Shallan's interaction with the deserters, and compare it to this epigraph:

 

 

 

 

Yet, were the orders not disheartened by so great a defeat, for the Lightweavers provided spiritual 

sustenance; they were enticed by those glorious creations to venture on a second assault.
-From Words of Radiance chapter 21 page 10    

 

 

 

Brandon says its not so simple as "this power and that power" so it can be a combination of enhance abilities naturally, combined with the added spiritual power. 

[shawnhargreaves he/him]

I've been mulling this idea in my head for a while, I'm glad you started a thread on it. Here's my speculation for the orders that we know about:

 

Windrunner: Leadership to the extreme. Hence the high number of Squires. Even when Kaladin isn't trying to inspire anyone, he does, like in the slave wagons when he's given up. The other slaves still look up to him for guidance. 

 

Lightweaver: Emotional Soulcasting. Shallan affects those around her, molding them into better people. In the Lahn interlude, Pei says something to the effect of "people no longer recast their souls into something greater," and there's the talk of spiritual sustenance in the WoR epigraphs. 

 

I really hope you are wrong about these, for meta-textual reasons - I would find it emotionally dissatisfying if these abilities come from an external/magical source rather than being innate to the characters.  It's awesome and satisfying when magic gives people amazing physical and sometimes even cognitive abilities, but I want these more spiritual aspects to come directly from Kaladin and Shallan themselves.

 

I suspect you are right that all Windrunners are excellent leaders and all Lightweavers can provide this kind of spiritual sustenance, but I think you have the reason for this backward.  These strengths are what won them access to the Nahel bond in the first place (so of course everyone who develops a particular bond will share that same strength) rather that a consequence of it.  Once established, the bond gives them access to two surges plus a little something extra.

 

Also, the WoB quoted by Kurkistan in the second post of this thread seems pretty clear that the extra Lightweaver ability is mnemonic.  I'd expect the other extra abilities to be similar in scope - real and useful, but less powerful than the surges and not the defining characteristic of their order.

[Tobbzn]

What if the leadership of windrunners is two-fold? Kaladin is naturally charismatic, leading people to follow him, but his nahel bond as a windrunner builds upon this, and gives his followers squire powers more easily?

[kari-no-sugata]

The fact that the squire bond exists suggests to me that there's still a lot we don't really know. Anyway, for Radiants in general, here's possible types/sources of special powers (including speculation):

1. individual Surges
2. effects that are only possible with the combination of 2+ particular Surges: this could be a single Radiant using their two Surges or multiple Radiants working together (or using an Honorblade)
3. effects that always come from being able to hold Stormlight - eg, improved strength, endurance, healing etc. Squires might get the same (though weaker)
4. "core" skills can get improved to an incredible degree over time eg drawing for Shallan, spear and general combat skills for Kaladin. These would be more like a direct enhancement from Stormlight I suspect, similar to (3) but would be specific to the person and not directly related to their Order/spren, and develop over a long time.
5. "special" skills, eg memory for Shallan, leadership (?) for Kaladin, lie-detecting for Skybreakers. This would be common to a particular order. I suspect this could be related to the type of spren they are bonded to.
6. squire bonds. I wonder where this comes from
7. Shardblade
8. ???

 

It would be interesting to see what abilities the Heralds get - might help us group the above skills more accurately. For example, if none get Squires then Radiant Squire ability is probably related to spren bond not Surges or Stormlight itself. They definitely should get improved healing since Szeth got. It would be interesting to see if they get (4) or (5) above - particularly if they get one and not the other since that indicate one is from Stormlight/Surge and one is from the spren.

 

[signspace13 he/him]

Lightweavers - this one's easy; we have lots of descriptions of Shallan's "Memories" and WoB that they are more than just her being ordinarily gifted. We also have mention in Words of Radiance (the in-book book) of the order having various mnemonic abilities. My theory here is that each Lightweaver gets some mental ability related to their chosen artistic medium; Shallan, as a drawer/painter, gets photographic memory, a musician might get perfect pitch, a poet might get perfect verbal memory/rhyming, and so forth.

 

I concur with this theory quite a bit. In fact I thin this could spread to other light weaving, perhaps Hoid's? we know he has perfect pitch and we know he is a musician the only time we have ever seen him light weave was while playing music, so yes I agree that a light weaver's special ability is something that helps them perfect their art form, Hoid his music and Shallan her drawing (bare in mind though I'm not saying that wit is a Radiant, just that his magic is likely very similar to Shallan's, as is said by Khriss in The ars arcanum)

 

Truthwatcher: Visions of the future, as in world examples show. This makes a lot of sense to me because of adding Illumination with Progression. Illuminating the progression of time. 

 

I do not think that Truthwatchers see a definite future, I think they see a calculated one, one that their very clever mind puts together from all of their own knowledge, and they can then project this knowledge into a sort of hologram, displaying what they see as the most likely series of events, this is the only way that I would see someone 'Learned' trusting any visions of the future, and explains Renarin's absolute melt down at the end of WoR, in his projection they do not win, it is not the most likely occurrence, but he see that projection as absolute because he doesn't understand his powers.

 

And I LOVE the theory that the skybreaker's ability alluded to in the epigraphs was there knack to start arguments. although I doubt it was there unique Radiant ability.

[Fifth of Daybreak he/him]

I really hope you are wrong about these, for meta-textual reasons - I would find it emotionally dissatisfying if these abilities come from an external/magical source rather than being innate to the characters.  It's awesome and satisfying when magic gives people amazing physical and sometimes even cognitive abilities, but I want these more spiritual aspects to come directly from Kaladin and Shallan themselves.

 

I suspect you are right that all Windrunners are excellent leaders and all Lightweavers can provide this kind of spiritual sustenance, but I think you have the reason for this backward.  These strengths are what won them access to the Nahel bond in the first place (so of course everyone who develops a particular bond will share that same strength) rather that a consequence of it.  Once established, the bond gives them access to two surges plus a little something extra.

 

Also, the WoB quoted by Kurkistan in the second post of this thread seems pretty clear that the extra Lightweaver ability is mnemonic.  I'd expect the other extra abilities to be similar in scope - real and useful, but less powerful than the surges and not the defining characteristic of their order.

 

I feel completely the opposite on the meta-textual reasons. Yes, they'd both have those innate skills, but the magic is what augments them to become as powerful as they are. I'd be more emotionally disappointed if their more defining attributes could all be linked to the bond-Kaladin's fighting, and Shallan's memory/drawing. Across the cosmere, it's a theme that the power doesn't give skill that's not there, but enhances it. That Kaladin can't fight without the spren bond, or Shallan's memory and drawing skill would be kaput-that doesn't sit right with me. However, those abilities, combined with a little extra umph from their spren bonds resulting in the leadership and spiritual help, that makes more sense to me than the opposite. 

 

I think that it's the fighting ability, and her memory/drawing skills that drew the spren bond to them, not the leadership/spiritual nourishment. Kaladin was attracting Syl when he was initially leading people, and Shallan attracted Pattern before she could possibly had developed the skill to inspire people spiritually. I think the biggest credit to my line of thinking is that had Shallan been able to inspire and change people before Pattern, would her family have still been so broken? Would her father continue to degrade with her around after the incident? But she kept her memory, even when the bond was so flimsy. 

 

We're disagreeing on the interpretation of that WoB. I don't see it as clearly pointing one way or the other, it seems clear to me that he left it ambiguous for a reason. 

 

 

There is something supernatural about those. Each Order... Well, how about this. If you look at scholars' interpretations, there are some scholars who think that these things are not supernatural, and some who think that they are. But, if you look, many Lightweavers had powerful mnemonic abilities.

 

What came first, the chicken or the Nahel bond? The way I'm interpreting this: "there is no definitive answer as to whether it's supernatural or not, some people say it is, some say it isn't, but the fact remains that many Lightweavers had powerful mnemonic abilities."  I think if he had wanted it to be clear and deliberate that those abilities don't belong to the person, and instead belong to the bond, he wouldn't have left it ambiguous. Now it might no be as powerful without the spren bond, but I'd be more upset to learn that this powerful, core abilities have nothing to do with the person, and everything to do with the spren.