Eldergod3 Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 Do you think a bondsmith (Dalinar, Ishar or Navani) could enhance Hoid’s Allomancy in the same way Dalinar enhanced Shallan’s Lightweaving? I had the thought that Lerasium grants allomancy by increasing a being’s connection to Preservation, so theoretically he could strengthen a Allomancer’s Allomancy by temporarily enhancing their connection to Preservation.
alder24 Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 I think it could be possible. However we don't know if this Bondsmith power is a thing restricted only to Radiant's due to their connection to Roshar and Honor, or it can be expanded further. Any set of powers have some sort of resonance between them so I find it likely that Bondsmith would be able to affect Allomancy. however I think it would look more like a nicroburst/duralumin, just giving or releasing more power, than some fancy stuff.
Through The Living Grub He/Him Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 I believe Mraize says that forms of Investiture get "heavier" the farther they are from their home planet so that may cause a few problems.
Trusk'our he/him Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, Xiahida said: I believe Mraize says that forms of Investiture get "heavier" the farther they are from their home planet so that may cause a few problems. It depends on the Investiture. Some, such as Bio-Chromatic Breaths don't have any issues leaving their system, since their Intent is about giving away with no strings attached. Quote Rhythm of War Preview Q&As (Oct. 8, 2020) Badger1289 If Investiture can’t be moved beyond a certain point away from its world/solar system, how in the Cosmere did three Awakeners end up on Roshar? Brandon Sanderson Investiture from different systems acts in different ways. Certain people have managed, for example, to get some kinds of Investiture to leave their home world through the use of a kind of magical pipeline. Breaths attach to the identity of the individual, and are fully given away--freely, which removes some of this Connection. It's a nature of Endowment that the gift is given without strings attached, so to speak. But while it's a renewable resource, it's a difficult one. Roshar is extra "sticky" so to speak with Investiture. It's part of the nature of Honor, Cultivation, and oaths. So getting it off is a problem, though collecting it is not. Echono Wouldn't consuming it also be a problem? You need a direct or secondary Bond to take in Stormlight Investiture. It's not like metals or Breaths that anyone could absorb. Although a certain grouchy ardent might have found a way... Brandon Sanderson You are right in that Stormlight is more being seen as a power source, since certain systems in the cosmere can work on a variety of different kinds. Not just anyone could make use of it, at least not unless it is refined. Honor's Intent is literally to bind things, to grab and hold onto them. Odium's is also about not letting go, but for more selfish reasons. That's why it is so hard to move those Investitures off world.
alder24 Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 35 minutes ago, Xiahida said: I believe Mraize says that forms of Investiture get "heavier" the farther they are from their home planet so that may cause a few problems. Breaths are part of your soul, so you can take it with you, as it is part of you. It's like Preservation's fragment in Scadrians, they can leave Scadrial as well. Other forms of investiture, like Stormlight come with string attached, and this string is Connection, that connects it to Shard and the planet it originated from, making it hard to move out of that planet. With Breaths or Preservation's fragment you don’t have that problem as they are part of you and are connected to you.
Trusk'our he/him Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, alder24 said: Breaths are part of your soul, so you can take it with you, as it is part of you. Bit of a nitpick, but Breaths are mostly in the physical realm, not the spiritual. Quote Shadows of Self London UK signing (Oct. 19, 2015) Questioner With spikes, would you be able to actually transfer Breaths, when they get to the other planets? Brandon Sanderson So spikes rip off pieces of the soul and so Breaths are not going to be part of the soul. You could maybe get a divine Breath but I haven't really decided on regular Breaths, they're kind of stuck there in the Physical Realm which is not a thing that spikes are dealing with. Divine Breath, potentially, because that's something that's actually melding onto your soul. But, you know, when you're using the Breaths they reach through to the Spiritual Realm so, maybe if you got it while the Breaths were kinetic, right, while you're using them, then you might be able to rip them off. I'm not a hundred percent certain on that one. Bystander There's still things to decide upon. Brandon Sanderson Yeah there's still things, like I have to kind of see. My instinct says no right now. But, you know, how they interact is not something that I have-- Yeah. Edited March 6, 2023 by Trusk'our
alder24 Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Trusk'our said: Bit of a nitpick, but Breaths are mostly in the physical realm, not the spiritual. I will defend myself! It's an innate investiture, additional part of you. And Breaths are often named by Brandon as a part of a soul: Spoiler Luke Beartline Along the lines of BioChromatic Breath being akin to a person's soul, how would a Shardblade react to someone who does not have any Breath, would it cut them like an inanimate object? Brandon Sanderson No. Remember, one of the things with Breath is I consider Breath to be a part of someone's soul, but it is the extra part that the Cosmere has that non-Cosmere doesn't have. I don't know how far I want to lean into this, but there is definitely a part of me that thinks that Drabs, people who have given up their breath on Nalthis, are just like people from our world. That's what they are, that if we went to the Cosmere we would all be Drabs. Even on planets that aren't Nalthis, where you can't take part of that and give it away and things like that, people are invested. They are invested generally more than here. [edited, big WoB] YouTube Spoiler Stream 2 (June 3, 2021) Spoiler Questioner Hemalurgy, does the person having the metal shoved through them have to die? Brandon Sanderson It has to rip off a piece of their soul. That normally results in death. Questioner Because I'm thinking you're going a bit into the future, surgery, precise things like that... Brandon Sanderson It's plausible but-- I mean it would leave the person like-- it's ripping off a piece of their soul. But the same thing happens when you give up your Breath. So you're giving up a piece of your soul. There are-- It's plausible you could take off pieces of a soul without killing the person. Salt Lake City Comic-Con 2014 (Sept. 4, 2014) Stormlight is not innate investiture, it's not part of you. It's either kinetic or static.
Trusk'our he/him Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, alder24 said: I will defend myself! It's an innate investiture, additional part of you. And Breaths are often named by Brandon as a part of a soul: Hide contents Luke Beartline Along the lines of BioChromatic Breath being akin to a person's soul, how would a Shardblade react to someone who does not have any Breath, would it cut them like an inanimate object? Brandon Sanderson No. Remember, one of the things with Breath is I consider Breath to be a part of someone's soul, but it is the extra part that the Cosmere has that non-Cosmere doesn't have. I don't know how far I want to lean into this, but there is definitely a part of me that thinks that Drabs, people who have given up their breath on Nalthis, are just like people from our world. That's what they are, that if we went to the Cosmere we would all be Drabs. Even on planets that aren't Nalthis, where you can't take part of that and give it away and things like that, people are invested. They are invested generally more than here. [edited, big WoB] YouTube Spoiler Stream 2 (June 3, 2021) Hide contents Questioner Hemalurgy, does the person having the metal shoved through them have to die? Brandon Sanderson It has to rip off a piece of their soul. That normally results in death. Questioner Because I'm thinking you're going a bit into the future, surgery, precise things like that... Brandon Sanderson It's plausible but-- I mean it would leave the person like-- it's ripping off a piece of their soul. But the same thing happens when you give up your Breath. So you're giving up a piece of your soul. There are-- It's plausible you could take off pieces of a soul without killing the person. Salt Lake City Comic-Con 2014 (Sept. 4, 2014) Stormlight is not innate investiture, it's not part of you. It's either kinetic or static. You know, I actually would bet that the original Breath every Nalthian carries is part of your Spiritual aspect (and why it is classified as "innate" Investiture), but all of the ones you get after aren't. That would help explain why your Breath retains some aspects of yourself even when you give it away. In other words, your original Breath is part of your soul, but all others you collect aren't, since they are primarily in the physical realm. Nice defense with the quotes by the way.
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