Dawnshard Theory #16729438

[Aliroz-The-Confused]

Enough is enough!  I have had it with all of these monkey-flipping Dawnshard theories on this Multi-Fractal forum!

 

First off, Dawnshards aren't real, have never been important in any canon Cosmere book, and aren't going to be important in any canon Cosmere book.  This is because Dawnshard isn't canon, which is self-evidently obvious but I'm going to explain it anyway (because you SMART PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET said my theories were unlikely and unsupported-by-evidence-and-logic so I'm insecure about making claims without at least a page or two attempting to justify my thoughts).  This is best demonstrated by the fact that Dawnshard, for the longest time, was not published as a physical book, but was only available as an electronic text.

You know what else is only available as an electronic text?  The Way Of Kings Prime.  Which, as you all know, is not canon, and is also garbage and not worth reading (don't worry, I didn't read it).  Just because Sanderson wrote it doesn't mean it counts, if Moshe, Joshua, and the publishers don't deem it worthy of the printed page.  If the book was worthy like the others, it would have been published from the start.

Also, Dawnshard cannot count as existing/mattering/canon because it would ruin the entire Stormlight Archive's basic structure of being ten books (that's the entire basic thing of it, with a world built around tens, and Sanderson promising ten books, it has to be ten books), and Dawnshard sure as heck isn't Stormlight 5.  Mistborn was promised as a trilogy of trilogies, and Stormlight was promised as a ten-book series.  The Way Of Kings Prime doesn't count in the numbering, it doesn't count as canon, and Dawnshard must be the same.

Look, I have faith in Sanderson's abilities, I don't think he's going to screw it up when he has ONE JOB (a ten-book series).

Okay, Sanderson screwed up a bit with Mistborn by writing a trilogy that wasn't the second trilogy but saved himself by making it a side-thing that's not part of the proper Mistborn Trilogy Of Trilogies, but then you fans Ati'd that all up and got it republished and marketed as Era Two and as the second trilogy, so you either ruined the WHOLE THING or cheated me out of three books.

Still, I stand with the publishers of 2020, no matter what happened in February of this year.

 

In Summary:  Dawnshard = not a physical book at release.  Way of Kings Prime = not a physical book at release.  Therefore, Dawnshard = Way of Kings Prime.  Way Of Kings Prime = stupid garbage unworthy of publication which is not canon.  Thus, Dawnshard = stupid garbage unworthy of publication which is not canon.

Edited November 11, 2022 by Aliroz-The-Confused

[NerdyAarakocra They/Them]

10 minutes ago, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

In Summary:  Dawnshard = not a physical book at release.  Way of Kings Prime = not a physical book at release.  Therefore, Dawnshard = Way of Kings Prime.  Way Of Kings Prime = stupid garbage unworthy of publication which is not canon.  Thus, Dawnshard = stupid garbage unworthy of publication which is not canon.

...But I have the physical copy of Dawnshard. Also, Edgedancer is canon. Also, the novellas aren't considered to be part of the main series, so they don't Ati the 10-book thing.

(I'm going to assume that this posting was an elaborate joke unless you specify otherwise.)

[Aliroz-The-Confused]

Edgedancer has been published as part of Arcanum Unbounded, and thus has the same canon status as Secret History.

 

(This posting genuinely isn't an elaborate joke, it's just my, to other people very bizarre, opinion.  I was, in all truth, planning not to read Stormlight 5 when it comes out, or any Stormlight after it, because of how much I resented Dawnshard for not being available in print when I wanted to read it (I refuse to have anything to do with e-books or audiobooks), but since my cousin is reading the series I've found myself planning to actually continue with Stormlight because I love talking about it with her).

[Frustration]

1 hour ago, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

Edgedancer has been published as part of Arcanum Unbounded, and thus has the same canon status as Secret History.

 

(This posting genuinely isn't an elaborate joke, it's just my, to other people very bizarre, opinion.  I was, in all truth, planning not to read Stormlight 5 when it comes out, or any Stormlight after it, because of how much I resented Dawnshard for not being available in print when I wanted to read it (I refuse to have anything to do with e-books or audiobooks), but since my cousin is reading the series I've found myself planning to actually continue with Stormlight because I love talking about it with her).

PRINT BROTHERS UNITE!

Except I am totally going to read any stormlight books that come out as soon as I can until Sanderson drives me kicking and screaming away from the series by driving it into the ground, which he won't do.

[Aliroz-The-Confused]

30 minutes ago, Frustration said:

Except I am totally going to read any stormlight books that come out as soon as I can until Sanderson drives me kicking and screaming away from the series by driving it into the ground, which he won't do.

I feel like Obi-Wan at Mustafar now.  WHYYYYYYYYYYY FRUS, WHYYYYY!???!?!?

[NerdyAarakocra They/Them]

There are references to the events of Dawnshard in RoW, so I think that we can assume that it's canon.

If it makes you feel better, I got Dawnshard and... it wasn't very good. I wouldn't recommend it.

[Frustration]

9 hours ago, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

I feel like Obi-Wan at Mustafar now.  WHYYYYYYYYYYY FRUS, WHYYYYY!???!?!?

I NEEDS IT! No, I'm not addicted, I can quit whenever I want.

37 minutes ago, NerdyAarakocra said:

There are references to the events of Dawnshard in RoW, so I think that we can assume that it's canon.

If it makes you feel better, I got Dawnshard and... it wasn't very good. I wouldn't recommend it.

What?!

[NerdyAarakocra They/Them]

2 minutes ago, Frustration said:

What?!

Look, there were some fun parts that I really enjoyed, but it tried to pack a bunch of character development, most of which already happened, into a book a quarter of the length of one of the main books.

[Frustration]

Just now, NerdyAarakocra said:

Look, there were some fun parts that I really enjoyed, but it tried to pack a bunch of character development, most of which already happened, into a book a quarter of the length of one of the main books.

But we learned about Dawnshards!

[SpinningSky he/him]

1 hour ago, NerdyAarakocra said:

There are references to the events of Dawnshard in RoW, so I think that we can assume that it's canon.

If it makes you feel better, I got Dawnshard and... it wasn't very good. I wouldn't recommend it.

While the concept of Rysn sounds like an amazing amazing charachter, I never really liked her, I was honestly a bit underwhelmed when I found out Dawnshards was gonna be about her, and the feeling remained after reading it, so yeah, I'm with you

 

12 hours ago, Aliroz-The-Confused said:

Edgedancer has been published as part of Arcanum Unbounded, and thus has the same canon status as Secret History.

 

(This posting genuinely isn't an elaborate joke, it's just my, to other people very bizarre, opinion.  I was, in all truth, planning not to read Stormlight 5 when it comes out, or any Stormlight after it, because of how much I resented Dawnshard for not being available in print when I wanted to read it (I refuse to have anything to do with e-books or audiobooks), but since my cousin is reading the series I've found myself planning to actually continue with Stormlight because I love talking about it with her).

We should do a kickstarter to print out all of the WoBs to help you join the discourse on most theories I guess

[Aliroz-The-Confused]

6 hours ago, SpinningSky said:

We should do a kickstarter to print out all of the WoBs to help you join the discourse on most theories I guess

Kickstarter is a malicious thing; it's devoured two of my favorite storytellers already.  They got too much money and now are trapped by their own ambitions and promises in a Sisyphus-and-Stone scenario, and I worry the same is starting to happen here.

I suppose the question now is whether Mr. Sanderson is like the protagonist of a Greek Tragedy, in which case his fate is already sealed and any warning would come too late, or whether he's like the protagonist of an anime, in which case any warning will be responded to by a successful accomplishment of the previously impossible.

A Moshe-edited, Joshua-screened, traditionally published book that serves as a compendium of random Cosmere lore would be interesting (and we got some of that with Arcanum Unbounded), but if there's one thing we ought to have learned from Rowling, it's that editors, agents, and publishers are crucial and ought not be removed from the process if the readers want good content.

 

Or, in other words, even that would probably fail to get past my increasingly irrational opinions, for many of the same reasons Dawnshard does.  It would probably be good for the more reasonable Print Fanatics out there, though.

Edited November 11, 2022 by Aliroz-The-Confused