kaladin x happiness she/her Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 so ive read secret history once but i didnt have much prior cosmere knowledge - i just finished my reread of it and i have questions. a lot of them. 1. Who are the Ire? From which planet? Which book? Which Shards? What are the glowy things they eat? Which planet is the building Kelsier reaches on? 2. It says the building glows with a white-blue light… is this Stormlight? How??! 3. How is the space between planets represented in the Cognitive Realm? 4. How did kelsier found ghostbloods and why? 4a. also how did he become visible to gavliar on roshar? 5. how did kelsier tie himself back to the physical realm as mentioned at the end? does this mean he’s no longer a cognitive shadow? 6. what is the affliction kelsier shares with the heralds as mentioned on a wiki somewhere? thanks guys!!
Nesh he/him Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 34 minutes ago, kaladin x happiness said: Who are the Ire? From which planet? Which book? Which Shards? What are the glowy things they eat? Which planet is the building Kelsier reaches on? The Ire are a sect of Elantrians they are from Sel, the planet where Elantris takes place, the Shards on Sel are Devotion and Dominion. The glowy stuff is a kind of Investiture, that's all we know. The planet Kelsier saw was Sel. 34 minutes ago, kaladin x happiness said: It says the building glows with a white-blue light… is this Stormlight? How??! It's not Stormlight, it's some other form of Investiture. 39 minutes ago, kaladin x happiness said: 3. How is the space between planets represented in the Cognitive Realm? Interstellar space is much smaller in the Cognative Realm because it is largely empty. 40 minutes ago, kaladin x happiness said: How did kelsier found ghostbloods and why? How, the same way he formed the crew probably: Recruiting. Why, to protect Scadrial from outside forces in the greater Cosmere. 42 minutes ago, kaladin x happiness said: also how did he become visible to gavliar on roshar? He used a Seon, also from Sel and the book Elantris. Shallan gets one in Rhythm of War, the glowing, taking orb from the Ghostblood box. Really, you should probably read Elantris, it would help with a lot of these questions. It's Brandon's earliest published work though, so don't expect Stormlight level quality. 48 minutes ago, kaladin x happiness said: 5. how did kelsier tie himself back to the physical realm as mentioned at the end? does this mean he’s no longer a cognitive shadow? 6. what is the affliction kelsier shares with the heralds as mentioned on a wiki somewhere? We're not exactly sure how Kelsier got a body again, we know Hemalurgy was involved, but beyond that... He is still a Cognitive Shadow, that is the affliction he shares with the Hearlds, or at least has something to do with it.
kaladin x happiness she/her Posted November 3, 2022 Author Posted November 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Nesh said: The Ire are a sect of Elantrians they are from Sel, the planet where Elantris takes place, the Shards on Sel are Devotion and Dominion. The glowy stuff is a kind of Investiture, that's all we know. The planet Kelsier saw was Sel. It's not Stormlight, it's some other form of Investiture. Interstellar space is much smaller in the Cognative Realm because it is largely empty. How, the same way he formed the crew probably: Recruiting. Why, to protect Scadrial from outside forces in the greater Cosmere. He used a Seon, also from Sel and the book Elantris. Shallan gets one in Rhythm of War, the glowing, taking orb from the Ghostblood box. Really, you should probably read Elantris, it would help with a lot of these questions. It's Brandon's earliest published work though, so don't expect Stormlight level quality. We're not exactly sure how Kelsier got a body again, we know Hemalurgy was involved, but beyond that... He is still a Cognitive Shadow, that is the affliction he shares with the Hearlds, or at least has something to do with it. Gosh, thank you so much! Yes, I’ve read Elantris but only once, and a long time ago at that. i think it’s possibly time for another reread. I’ve also read smewhere that Ghostbloods are looking to export Stormlight off Roshar - why would Kelsier wnat to do that?
Nesh he/him Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, kaladin x happiness said: Gosh, thank you so much! Yes, I’ve read Elantris but only once, and a long time ago at that. i think it’s possibly time for another reread. I’ve also read smewhere that Ghostbloods are looking to export Stormlight off Roshar - why would Kelsier wnat to do that? It's the most accessible form of Investiture we've seen this far, and you can do a lot of stuff with Investiture.
Jofwu he/him Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 @kaladin x happiness FYI, this is about big spoilers well outside the scope of Mistborn alone, so I'm moving this to the Cosmere Discussion forum.
Returned he/him Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 11 hours ago, kaladin x happiness said: I’ve also read smewhere that Ghostbloods are looking to export Stormlight off Roshar - why would Kelsier wnat to do that? It would be very valuable to be the first group to be able to do that, given how portable and accessible it is. There are also implications for Kelsier himself: figuring out how to get Stormlight off of Roshar might be very helpful in helping get Kelsier unstuck from where he is. And beyond that I wouldn't feel too secure in thinking that we know everything about Kelsier's goals or mindset right now. A lot has happened to him, and his current state of existence might have prompted a lot of changes in him.
kaladin x happiness she/her Posted November 3, 2022 Author Posted November 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Jofwu said: @kaladin x happiness FYI, this is about big spoilers well outside the scope of Mistborn alone, so I'm moving this to the Cosmere Discussion forum. Oh yes, of course - thank you 7 hours ago, Returned said: It would be very valuable to be the first group to be able to do that, given how portable and accessible it is. There are also implications for Kelsier himself: figuring out how to get Stormlight off of Roshar might be very helpful in helping get Kelsier unstuck from where he is. And beyond that I wouldn't feel too secure in thinking that we know everything about Kelsier's goals or mindset right now. A lot has happened to him, and his current state of existence might have prompted a lot of changes in him. Very true
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