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In Oathbringer, Dalinar opened Honor's Perpendicularity and all of the Gemstones and Radiants near him were super-charged with Stormlight.

My question is: could this happen with all Perpendicularities? Could Lift potentially gain power from Cultivation's Perpendicularity? 

 

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Lift is a special case in that she can only get Lifelight from food but cannot take in Stormlight in from gems at all, so she may not be able to take ambient Investiture in at all.  

But yes, I do recall an old WOB that said you could charge gems from other perpendicularities, though it was long before we'd gotten into the different types of Light so it might not be that simple.  However, per WOB Investiture-in-Gems predates the honor's arrival (maybe the shattering?) so it has a decent chance of being a fairly universal way to store Investiture.  Hard to say if it would, for example, hold Mist directly or need it to be converted to some sort of PreservationLight first.  

Per WOB Bondsmiths could open perpendicularities before, and Navani can theoretically learn how.  If true, it could follow that the Nigthtwatcher's Bondsmith might source Lifelight through their's.  

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29 minutes ago, Quantus said:

Lift is a special case in that she can only get Lifelight from food but cannot take in Stormlight in from gems at all, so she may not be able to take ambient Investiture in at all.  

It is said that she can't use Stormlight, only Lifelight. So I was thinking that she might have been tweaked by Cultivation to only use Lifelight but your theory makes more sense.

30 minutes ago, Quantus said:

But yes, I do recall an old WOB that said you could charge gems from other perpendicularities, though it was long before we'd gotten into the different types of Light so it might not be that simple.  However, per WOB Investiture-in-Gems predates the honor's arrival (maybe the shattering?) so it has a decent chance of being a fairly universal way to store Investiture.  Hard to say if it would, for example, hold Mist directly or need it to be converted to some sort of PreservationLight first.  

Oh that is very nice to know, thank you for answering. I'd say that Gemstones can't take in Mist due to the fact that I'd find it hard to believe that no one ever brought jewelry out into the Mists even once in a thousand years. Although maybe they did, but since no one could do anything with it they just dismissed it as 'A weird Mist thing'.

Also I like to call Preservation's Light 'Mistlight' (Creative I know) and Ruin's Light 'Ashlight'. I'd also imagine that if a Surgebinder could breathe in these Lights that Mistlight make make you feel less inclined to move or act, like the opposite of Stormlight, and Ashlight would be kinda like the Thrill. Just thought I'd say that.

36 minutes ago, Quantus said:

Per WOB Bondsmiths could open perpendicularities before, and Navani can theoretically learn how.  If true, it could follow that the Nigthtwatcher's Bondsmith might source Lifelight through their's.  

Interesting, I thought that the Stormfather said that no Bondsmith had done it before, though that might just be me misreading.

So I'd suppose that Navani's Perpendicularity might create large quantites of Towerlight.

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31 minutes ago, JustQuestin2004 said:

Interesting, I thought that the Stormfather said that no Bondsmith had done it before, though that might just be me misreading.

Nah, that was a thing too, that was asked in part of the WOB:

 

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Questioner

Dalinar Ascends, right? Like, right then, there.

Brandon Sanderson

I have RAFO'd that. Whether he is Ascending or not is a RAFO.

Questioner

Okay, because I know he kind of mentions from that, I don't know how to say his name but the older guy who has the Diagram--

Brandon Sanderson

Taravangian, yeah. Whether that deserves to be a capital "A" or not is a matter of argument. It can be disputed.

Questioner

I guess my main question would just be Dalinar's now able to pull Stormlight and give it to people now.

Brandon Sanderson

He definitely can. That is a Bondsmith power, so.

Questioner

That is a Bondsmith power, okay.

Brandon Sanderson

That is specifically a Bondsmith power.

Questioner

Because my roommate was saying well, the Stormfather was surprised he could do that or was the Stormfather surprised that he was able to bridge--

Brandon Sanderson

He was surprised by what was happening to Dalinar as a whole.

Questioner

Oh okay, that's what I thought because I was like, because I felt like the Stormlight, that power would be a Bondsmith power.

Brandon Sanderson

Let's say that the Stormfather and Odium were seeing something in Dalinar that, perhaps, the average person watching even who is knowledgeable about Surges would not completely understand... But he will be able to use that power and Bondsmiths in the past have used that same power.

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31 minutes ago, JustQuestin2004 said:

So I'd suppose that Navani's Perpendicularity might create large quantites of Towerlight.

I should clarify, the WOB says she should be able to "Open A Perpendicularity" which might not actually cover Investiture granting.  Ishar used the power to transition to Shadesmar that time, but was still surprised that Dalinar could "used Honor's Path".  But then, the Stormfather was shocked Ishar could open it (or something) too and was was particularly shocked that he couldnt sense Ishar doing it.  

 

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Could Navani open a perpendicularity when she got far enough in her oaths?

Brandon Sanderson

This is theoretically possible.

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It's also possible that Navani could do it in the future, but previous Bondsmiths (Honor-alive era) couldn't. IE it's an unchained thing not a Stormfather thing.

It seems though that some less powerful version of Light-granting is "specifically a Bondsmith power".

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