How would a Spinner make money

[Timeline]

So, I was thinking about A Spinner, and how would I use the ability to make money, how I would I fill my Metalmind, I’ll sit at home for a week or so, fill 10-15% (as much as I dare without crashing a meteor on my house) only when I’m awake, sitting on a couch, reading a book, I will not do it while eating, sleeping, etc. let's say I’ll store 80 hours of 10% luck. How would I use it to make money?

Option one:

Tap the entire storage while filling one lottery box, which will take about 10-15 seconds, I can assume that that much luck in a burst, will guaranty a jackpot or at least second prize.

Option two:

80 hours of 10%, will give me 20% for 40 hours, 40% for 20 hours, 80% for 10 hours, etc.

I can tap it all for two hours at the craps table in the casino, if I have 80 hours of 10%, and will use all of it for two hours, that should guaranty me not “seven out” for the entire time. anyone who knows the game of craps can understand how much money you can make if you can keep throwing the dice for 2 hours streight without a Seven. Ten of thousands for sure.

 

Thoughts?

[Halyo_Alex he/him]

While this does sound lovely in theory, I believe it's more likely that "luck" in the feruchemical sense is the Cosmeric attribute of Fortune, relating to your ability to see the future (not unlike Atium or Electrum allomancies, really). It's just that until you hit a certain threshold, your future "sight" is more of a subconscious, gut-feeling or spidey-sense.

In other words, storing huge quantities of Luck won't make a meteor crash into your house, since that's a predetermined path of inanimate matter. What it WOULD do is cause you to kind of fumble... Quick-time events, for lack of a better term. Your base level of Fortune being taken away would likely mess with some of your subconscious decision-making, basically.

Which means that tapping it would give those same subconscious aspects more to work with, and enhance your decision-making for the sake of creating a favorable outcome. So you should tap Chromium when you're about to decide which lottery ticket to pick up, or when you're about to roll your own dice, or whenever you're thinking about taking a risky action, and then go with your gut-feeling on the matter.

[Timeline]

I like your interpretation of Fortune, as it does seem more Cosmeric as just Luck. in that case, I'll do the same, save 80 hours of 10% and use it for 2-3 hours, but the game I would choose to play is Texas Holdem, as in this game the results are based on the decision of the players vs other casino games which any results are solely based on Mathematics. thanks for your input. 

I can only assume that Brandon Sanderson intent to use this Feruchemy ability in the 3rd Mistborn series (unless it will be in the Lost Metal) which will happen about 300 years after W&W (600 years after the Final Empire). I can't wait for those books. as it will be Allomancy and Feruchemy in a world much like ours today.

[cometaryorbit]

Yeah it is the same Fortune ability that Hoid uses to know where he needs to be (not that Hoid is necessarily using Feruchemy, but the same Cosmere mechanism).

The connection to atium/electrum is interesting. Sounds weird at first, as one would expect there to be no baseline "future sight" to store, but if it's a gut instinct sort of thing...

Or alternately it might be less direct future sight, more a feeling about how things are going and what I should be doing right now.

 

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Where does another 300 year time jump come from? Era 3 is supposed to be 1980s tech and Era 2 is early 20th century tech, so I'd expect more like 70-80 years, maybe less if the interaction of Basin and Southern technology accelerates development.

 

[Eldergod3]

On 2021-12-21 at 3:57 PM, cometaryorbit said:

Yeah it is the same Fortune ability that Hoid uses to know where he needs to be (not that Hoid is necessarily using Feruchemy, but the same Cosmere mechanism).

The connection to atium/electrum is interesting. Sounds weird at first, as one would expect there to be no baseline "future sight" to store, but if it's a gut instinct sort of thing...

Or alternately it might be less direct future sight, more a feeling about how things are going and what I should be doing right now.

 

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Where does another 300 year time jump come from? Era 3 is supposed to be 1980s tech and Era 2 is early 20th century tech, so I'd expect more like 70-80 years, maybe less if the interaction of Basin and Southern technology accelerates development.

 

Originally there were 3 eras, The Final Empire, 1980’s Computer Boom, Futuristic Space Opera/Era. Brandon wanted to keep Scadrial in peoples minds so he wrote Alloy of Law to connect era 1 and 2, he enjoyed it so much that it became era 2, 1980’s era 3, space opera era 4. 

[Trusk'our he/him]

On 12/21/2021 at 3:57 PM, cometaryorbit said:

Yeah it is the same Fortune ability that Hoid uses to know where he needs to be (not that Hoid is necessarily using Feruchemy, but the same Cosmere mechanism).

The connection to atium/electrum is interesting. Sounds weird at first, as one would expect there to be no baseline "future sight" to store, but if it's a gut instinct sort of thing...

Or alternately it might be less direct future sight, more a feeling about how things are going and what I should be doing right now.

 

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Where does another 300 year time jump come from? Era 3 is supposed to be 1980s tech and Era 2 is early 20th century tech, so I'd expect more like 70-80 years, maybe less if the interaction of Basin and Southern technology accelerates development.

 

It sounds like it's been canonized as Feruchemy now. Also, based on this quote, the use of Fortune is almost certainly a future-sight type of ability rather than one that causes physical changes in the world around you.

Quote

Lamguin (paraphrased)

Hoid is regularly around when important events take place. How does he know where to go?

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

He uses Feruchemy. Part of it that will show up in later books.

 

[Jani99 she/her]

Using a spinner to make money sounds like a fun idea. And the two options you mentioned, hitting the jackpot in a lottery or playing a long streak at the craps table, have potential for big returns. Just keep in mind that gambling, whether it's with luck from a spinner or not, is a risky business and you should always approach it with caution. As for legit cash games, it's important to make sure you are participating in legal and reputable gambling activities.

Edited February 16, 2023 by Jani99

[TommeHie]

Your thoughts on using A Spinner's abilities for making money are quite intriguing. Reminds me of when I pondered different side hustles to boost my income.

[Argenti he/him]

On 4/4/2024 at 11:27 AM, TommeHie said:

Your thoughts on using A Spinner's abilities for making money are quite intriguing. Reminds me of when I pondered different side hustles to boost my income.

Are you a bot or smth? 

[Naelar]

On 12/21/2021 at 3:19 AM, Timeline said:

So, I was thinking about A Spinner, and how would I use the ability to make money, how I would I fill my Metalmind, I’ll sit at home for a week or so, fill 10-15% (as much as I dare without crashing a meteor on my house) only when I’m awake, sitting on a couch, reading a book, I will not do it while eating, sleeping, etc. let's say I’ll store 80 hours of 10% luck. How would I use it to make money?

Option one:

Tap the entire storage while filling one lottery box, which will take about 10-15 seconds, I can assume that that much luck in a burst, will guaranty a jackpot or at least second prize.

Option two:

80 hours of 10%, will give me 20% for 40 hours, 40% for 20 hours, 80% for 10 hours, etc.

I can tap it all for two hours at the craps table in the casino, if I have 80 hours of 10%, and will use all of it for two hours, that should guaranty me not “seven out” for the entire time. anyone who knows the game of craps can understand how much money you can make if you can keep throwing the dice for 2 hours streight without a Seven. Ten of thousands for sure. By the way, I once won on a casino site thanks to this tactic.

 

Thoughts?

Tapping all your stored luck at once to fill out a lottery ticket could potentially yield a huge payout if it works as intended. However, lotteries are designed to be highly unpredictable, so even with increased luck, there's no absolute guarantee of winning the jackpot.

Edited September 30, 2024 by Naelar