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So given this WoB

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Kaymyth

I asked the question about chromium vs a Compounder with both Invested and un-Invested metals in both their stomach and piercings.

Brandon Sanderson

What it boils down to is this:

1) Yes, the piercings will get burned off.

2) The non-Invested metals go before the Invested ones. He said that because Invested metals are harder to affect, it takes a little extra time and effort to get them to burn off. So a Leecher trying to clean out a Compounder would have to get a good grip and hang on for a few seconds.

3) Chromium burns about as quickly as duralumin, so if you're trying to burn off a lot of metals, it is possible to run out of chromium before your target is clean. This would probably only be an issue when dealing with larger pieces (like jewelry) rather than your standard metal-flakes-in-the-stomach deal.

ConQuest 46 (May 22, 2015)

Non invested metal is burnt before invested metal is, so if a twinborn or someone else using invested arts wanted to fight a Mistborn they could consume trace amounts of relativly safe allomantic metals and use that as a buffer against their powers being leeched.

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Does chromium leech all metals regardless of being actively burnt?   I thought I remember duralumin using up everything that was being used not everything in the stomach at once.  Then again aluminum seemed to work on all metal no matter if it was being burned as well.  I assume a nicroburst would be held to the same need for an active source to work as duralumin and I guess chromium could work against anything at all.  

My confusion with chromium is just where are the lines at all?  I thought metal was just a catalyst for allomancy.  Can a leecher touch a piece of steel in the world and burn it all away?  Or does the steel only become leechable when it is in an allomamcers stomach?   If that steel has to be accessible by a coinshot to be leechable then swallowing a bunch of metal as a feruchemist or surgebinder would do absolutely nothing to help in a fight against a leecher.  It would just poison you.  When we see a special cube get used why did it only burn away Wax's steel in his stomach and not rip a hole in the train cars ground?  

I just feel like aluminum, duralumin, chromium, and nicrosil all play by different rules and they all hurt my little brain.  

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8 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

If that steel has to be accessible by a coinshot to be leechable then swallowing a bunch of metal as a feruchemist or surgebinder would do absolutely nothing to help in a fight against a leecher.  It would just poison you. 

Gold is actually completly safe to eat.

8 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

Does chromium leech all metals regardless of being actively burnt?   I thought I remember duralumin using up everything that was being used not everything in the stomach at once.  Then again aluminum seemed to work on all metal no matter if it was being burned as well.  I assume a nicroburst would be held to the same need for an active source to work as duralumin and I guess chromium could work against anything at all.  

My confusion with chromium is just where are the lines at all?  I thought metal was just a catalyst for allomancy.  Can a leecher touch a piece of steel in the world and burn it all away?  Or does the steel only become leechable when it is in an allomamcers stomach? 

That is my question as well.

8 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

I just feel like aluminum, duralumin, chromium, and nicrosil all play by different rules and they all hurt my little brain.  

Feel that.

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50 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

I just feel like aluminum, duralumin, chromium, and nicrosil all play by different rules and they all hurt my little brain.  

I feel like aluminum, duralumin, chromium and nicrosil break a similar pattern to the one that Atium and Malatium did which was one of the subtle clues that they (atium and Malatium) were not the true external temporal metals of the chart. And indeed, they weren’t, they were just put there for Preservation’s plan.

What’s stopping Aluminum and Duralumin from being the same? 
 

Well, mainly that Aluminum/Chromium isn’t a god metal. But aluminum is still special in the Cosmere! :ph34r:

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26 minutes ago, Halyo_Alex said:

I feel like aluminum, duralumin, chromium and nicrosil break a similar pattern to the one that Atium and Malatium did which was one of the subtle clues that they (atium and Malatium) were not the true external temporal metals of the chart. And indeed, they weren’t, they were just put there for Preservation’s plan.

Yeah, if it followed the pattern they would be AoE's, Chromium would prevent people from burnin and Nicrosil would force them to burn.

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