Macen Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 So. I asked Brandon which Secret Group, if any Shallans mother is in. He quickly RAFO'd that. Next. I have been brewing a theory based on another conversation here about Lin Davar (will link when I get home). Based on his slow and steady decline into nearly constant rage and the rage he causes in others I thought he may have been influenced by Odium. I asked if he was influenced by Odium and he said yes! So stoked I didn't get RAFO'd on that one. Just left the signing. Time to drive home. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macen Posted March 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Oh. I also asked if more than one type of spren could be bonded and he more or less said (I didn't record it) that it's not impossible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Oooh, that's interesting! I wonder how Odium did it - would he need a medium like Ruin, or can he be more direct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macen Posted March 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Oh. I also asked if more than one type of spren could be bonded and he more or less said (I didn't record it) that it's not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Bleck. This kinda ruins his character, IMO. It was far more interesting when he was complex, being a good guy that destroys himself and turns into a monster. Now that magic is in the picture it seems too... pat, simple. I hope there isn't too much of this with other characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Bleck. This kinda ruins his character, IMO. It was far more interesting when he was complex, being a good guy that destroys himself and turns into a monster. Now that magic is in the picture it seems too... pat, simple. I hope there isn't too much of this with other characters. I seriously doubt that it was all Odium. In fact, I doubt Odium could have come in in the first place if he wasn't a little bit nuts, kind of like Ruin, who also needed insanity to work. His pain and rage were all his own, Odium just tried to push him a little further, probably into turning to the Ghostbloods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seloun Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Bleck. This kinda ruins his character, IMO. It was far more interesting when he was complex, being a good guy that destroys himself and turns into a monster. Now that magic is in the picture it seems too... pat, simple. I hope there isn't too much of this with other characters. I seriously doubt that it was all Odium. In fact, I doubt Odium could have come in in the first place if he wasn't a little bit nuts, kind of like Ruin, who also needed insanity to work. His pain and rage were all his own, Odium just tried to push him a little further, probably into turning to the Ghostbloods. I think it does take a fair bit away from Lin's arc, mainly because the influence of Odium removes a lot of his responsibility for his actions. If it had been all Lin, we have a person whose heroism eventually proves to his downfall; a thoughtful inspection of how good intentions can ultimately turn bad. If it's all Odium, it's about a hero who gets replaced by an evil robot; not quite as interesting since they're basically two different people being examined. Obviously the 'real' story is somewhere in the middle, and hopefully we'll find it's a light touch (maybe even an incidental one), but it does take something away from the deeper (well, arguably) interpretation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartbug Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I hope Brandon was Aes Sedai-ing you. After all, it could he argued that the Thrill is an Odious influence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesomeness Summoned Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Or just that he was an angry, hateful man so it was his odium that was destroying the family 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macen Posted March 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I think it was middle ground. Just like how spren bond with someone with cracks int heir soul. Odium was slowing influencing him from the cracks in his soul. I don't think odium was all of it, just helped push him along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marianmi Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I wonder if it was odium keeping him from hurting her, protecting her to maker her odiums champion... In any case, her father knew she had a shardblade, so that means Odium knew, right from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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