macros Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 So from the WoR material so far its pretty much confirmed that having an honorblade grants access to surgebinding. Brandon has also confirmed that dual wielding shardblades is possible. So im wondering if it is possible to dual wield honorblades and if so, does it grant you access to 4 surges assuming that none of the surges are shared. any thoughts? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Aztec Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 What if kandra shifts into shiva and weilds ALL HONORBLADES? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodfalcon Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 I'd say yes, but my hope is that we see this scenario tweaked a little bit. It appears as though Hoid is collecting magical possessions from each Shardworld. If he got his hands on an Honorblade as well as an Awakened blade, that would be the real show. Still yes to your actual question. I think something along these lines will happen at some point in the series, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlehrma Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Hoid collecting all of the honor blades would fit with his personality in that he seems to be collecting powers from every world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meddler Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) I'd say yes, but my hope is that we see this scenario tweaked a little bit. It appears as though Hoid is collecting magical possessions from each Shardworld. If he got his hands on an Honorblade as well as an Awakened blade, that would be the real show. Still yes to your actual question. I think something along these lines will happen at some point in the series, too. Yeah, I don't think I want Hoid to turn into a dual blade wielding badass. I want him to remain in the background, furthering his own agenda, be a puppetmaster I'd think he would be a step up from any mortal from the Sharworlds, seeing as he has been around for a long long time and has access to magic from all over the world. Edited February 6, 2014 by meddler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodfalcon Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Yeah, I don't think I want Hoid to turn into a dual blade wielding badass. I want him to remain in the background, furthering his own agenda, be a puppetmaster I'd think he would be a step up from any mortal from the Sharworlds, seeing as he has been around for a long long time and has access to magic from all over the world. I'm pretty sure it has been said that Hoid will have some sort of fight with someone in the WoR epilogue, so unfortunately, I think he is about to start taking a more active role, whether he wants to or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think Hoid can be a puppet master with a badass potential. You know tweak a few strings, wait for them to find you at the source of your power, slay them with justice, rinse and repeat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macen Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Adolin is going to have so many shard blades he might just try to tri-wield them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shardlet Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Hoid collecting all of the honor blades would fit with his personality in that he seems to be collecting powers from every world. I'm not sure about that. Taking an honor blade could be particularly detrimental to the conflict facing the Roshar. I don't see Hoid as being interested in hamstringing the worlds he visits. Edited February 6, 2014 by Shardlet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodfalcon Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 I'm not sure about that. Taken an honor blade could be particularly detrimental to the conflict facing the Roshar. I don't see Hoid as being interested in hamstringing the worlds he visits. There might be something to be said about removing a particularly troublesome Herald's Honorblade. And if Hoid ended up trying to help Roshar, who better to have such an asset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aminar Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Adolin is going to have so many shard blades he might just try to tri-wield them. He's not a pirate. I'm not sure if having multiple honor-blades would grant extra surges. It seems to me that it the combinations wouldn't overlap in a similar way to Lerasium seemingly overriding a previous misting ability.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaa Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) I suspect there are ways for Hoid to get Roshar Investiture without using honorblades or nahel bonds. It will probably involve lerasium. (Edit: Theory! Hoid will make a fabrial that somehow transports the power of the trapped spren in the gemstone. The fabrial's metal part will be Hoid's lerasium bead, which will cause the spren's power to be added to Hoid's Spiritweb. He can then trap another spren in another gemstone and repeat the process. Rinse, repeat, until he gets all the Surgebinding powers he wants.)As for dual-wielding honorblades, I think it does make sense that doing this will grant you the powers of both blades. It would be like getting two Shards. And just like Shards, I suspect some difficulty will arise if the two honorblades have clashing Intents/Attributes (e.g. Zephyr's Leading versus Spark's Obedient). Edited February 7, 2014 by skaa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Guardian Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Adolin is going to have so many shard blades he might just try to tri-wield them. Kind of like a certain pirate who's jolly roger is my avatar? While baThis post has been reported for attempting to skirt the rules, given the typical style of fighting with a shard blade, I think dual-wielding them in a fight would be silly, let alone trying to be a santoryu user. If somebody did manage to obtain 2+ honor blades though, my thought is that they would very possibly never have to actually wield either of them. As Szeth proves, his windrunner powers don't go away when his blade isn't summoned, and someone with access to 3+ surges could extremely dangerous well before a weapon ever enters the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 If they didn't overlap, 3 honorblades = 6 surges! That's some badass power, there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Someone with all ten Surges would be terrifying. I'd really like to see a Hemalurgist try and get them all. Teleportation, flying, Soulcasting, illusions, healing... they're like a mix of an Allomancer and Elantrian. Bonus points if said Hemalurgist also has some other systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodfalcon Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Someone with all ten Surges would be terrifying. I'd really like to see a Hemalurgist try and get them all. Teleportation, flying, Soulcasting, illusions, healing... they're like a mix of an Allomancer and Elantrian. Bonus points if said Hemalurgist also has some other systems. hoooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiddddddddddddd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Speed of an allomancer Flexibility of an awakener Power of a Feruchemist Versitality of a Elantrian Deadliness of the Dakhor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisapx Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 To get to shadesmar, do you need to use, one of the investures of the world you're in, or can it be an investure from other world? If it's the latter it makes sense that Hoid is collecting types of powers, since he can't leave the world until he gains control from a investure from the same world, so he's only collecting them so that he can move on, and not trying to collect them all just because(it ends up being a huge perk though). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I wonder if Hemalurgy can give power to a Shard? For example, spiking out a Shardblade and pounding it into Sazed's reconstructed body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) I wonder if Hemalurgy can give power to a Shard? For example, spiking out a Shardblade and pounding it into Sazed's reconstructed body. I think this is unlikely. Ruin and Preservation were so opposed that coming into contact destroyed both holders. They're something of a special case, but Shards have such a strong identity that I think they would repel any Investiture that does not belong to them, if not necessarily as violently as Ruin/Preservation. Then again, Sazed is holding on to both, so who knows? Maybe you just have to 'force' the different Investiture together until it sees itself Cognitively as one being. I imagine you could steal power from a Shard if you had a way to get at their body, though. Edited February 7, 2014 by Moogle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantumHarmonix Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I wonder if Hemalurgy can give power to a Shard? For example, spiking out a Shardblade and pounding it into Sazed's reconstructed body. I seem to remember that there was a WoB that you could do it, if you knew what you were doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Do remember that there was an effective way to merge Ruin and Preservation's power in one body - perhaps a Shard can take foreign Investiture, but it alters their Intent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Do remember that there was an effective way to merge Ruin and Preservation's power in one body - perhaps a Shard can take foreign Investiture, but it alters their Intent. I edited my post because of that, but yeah. I think Harmony is something of a special case because Sazed managed to hold both Shards, rather than hold one Shard and have a small part of a different one's power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I wonder if Harmony is diametrically opposed to any other Shards, then? What if Harmony and Odium both died - could someone pull a Sazed and double Ascend, welding the Shards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel4165 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I seriously wonder when we're going to see a Hoid battle. I guess it'll either be very epic or a instant kill, one liner fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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