AerionBFII Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) I decided to make this thread after reading a thread combing through the death rattles. I wanted to try and make sense of the snippets from the book from the start of each chapter and try to put them in order and see what we could learn about the Radiants. By Chapter: Chapter 35: The Multiplied Strain of Simultaneous InfusionThey also, when they had settled their rulings in nature of each bond's placement, called the name of it the Nahel bond, with regard to it's effect upon the souls of those caught in its grip; in this description, each was related to the bonds that drive Roshar itself, ten Surges, named in turn and two for each order; in this light, it can be seen that each order would by necessity share one Surge with each of its neighbors.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 8, page 6Chapter 36: A New Woman:And when they were spoken of by the common folk, the Releasers claimed to be misjudged because of the dreadful nature of their power; and when they dealt with others, always were they firm in their claim that other epithets, notably „Dustbringers,“ often heard in the common speech, were unacceptable substitutions, in particular for their similarity to the word „Voidbringers.“ They did also exercise anger in great prejudice regarding it, though to many who speak, there was little difference between there two assemblies.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 17, page 11Chapter 37: A Matter of PerspectiveNow, as each order was thus matched to the nature and temperament of the Herald it named patron, there was none more archetypal of this than the Stonewards, who followed after Talenelat'Elin, Stonesinew, Herald of War: they thought it a point of virtue to exemplify resolve, strength, and dependability. Alas, they took less care for imprudent practice of their stubbornness, even in the face of proven error.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 13, page 1Chapter 38: The silent StormNow, as the Windrunners were thus engaged, arose the event which has hitherto been referenced: namely, that discovery of some wicked thing of eminence, though whether it be some rogueries among the Radiants' adherents or of some external origin, Avena would not suggest.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 38, page 6Chapter 40: PalonaThat they responded immediately and with great consternation is undeniable, as these were primary among those who would forswear and abandon their oaths. The term Recreance was not then applied, but has since become a popular title by which this event is named.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 38, page 6Chapter 41: ScarsThis act of great villainy went beyond the impudence which had hitherto been ascribed to the orders; as the fighting was particularly intense at this time, many attributed this act to a sense of inherent betrayal; and after they withdrew, about two thousand made assault upon them, destroying much of the membership; but this was only nine of the ten, as one said they would not abandon their arms and flee, but instead entertained great subterfuge at the expense of the other nine.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 38, page 20Chapter 42: Mere vaporsBut as for Ishi'Elin, his was the part most important at their inception; he readily understood the implications of Surges being granted to men, and caused organization to be thrust upon them; as having too great power, he let it be known that he would destroy each and every one, unless they agreed to be bound by precepts and laws.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 2, page 4Chapter 43: The GhostbloodsAnd thus were the disturbances in the Revv toparchy quieted, when, upon their ceasing to prosecute their civil dissensions, Nalan'Elin betook himself to finally accept the Skybreakers who had named him their master, when initially he had spurned their advances and, in his own interests, refused to countenance that which he deemed a pursuit of vanity and annoyance; this was the last of the Heralds to admit to such patronage.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 5, page 17Chapter 44: One form of JusticeBut as for the Bondsmiths, they had members only three, which number was not uncommon for them; nor did they seek to increase this order was in continual accompaniment of Urithiru and its thrones. Their spren was understood to be specific, and to persuade them to grow to the magnitude of the other orders was seen as seditious.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 16, page 14Chapter 46: PatriotsWhen Simol was informed of the arrival of the Edgedancers, a concealed consternation and terror, as is common in such cases, fell upon him; although they were not the most demanding of orders, their graceful, limber movements hid a deadliness that was, by this time, quite renowned; also, they were the most articulate and refined of the Radiants.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 20, page 12Chapter 47: Feminine wilesYet, were the orders not disheartened by so great a defeat, for the Lightweavers provided spiritual sustenance; they were enticed by those glorious creations to venture on a second assault.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 21, page 10Chapter 49: Watching the world transformThese Lightweavers, by no coincidence, included many who pursude the arts; namly: writers, artists, musicians, painters, sculptors. Considering the order's general temperament, the tales of their strange and varied mnemonic abilities may have been embellished.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 21, page 10Chapter 50: Uncut gemsAnd now, if there was an uncut gem among the Radiance, it was the Willshapers; for though enterprising, they were erratic, and Invia wrote of them, “capricious, frustrating, unreliable,” as taking it for granted that others would agree; this may have been an intolerant view, as often Invia expressed, for this order was said to be most varied, inconsistent in temperament save for a general love of adventure, novelty, or oddity.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 7, page 1Chapter 51: HeirsIn short, if any presume Kazilah to be innocent, you must look at the facts and deny them in their entirety; to say that the Radiants were destitute of integrity for executing one of their own, one who had obviously fraternized with the unwholesome elements, indicates the most slothful of reasoning; for the enemy's baleful influence demanded vigilance on all occasions, of war and of peace.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 32, page 17Chapter 52: Into the SkyNow, as the Truthwatchers were esoteric in nature, their order being formed entirely of those who never spoke or wrote of what they did, in this lies frustration for those who would see their exceeding secrecy from the outside; they were not naturally inclined to explanation; and in the case of Corberon's disagreements, their silence was not a sign of exceeding abundance of disdain, but rather and exceeding abundance of tact.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 11, page 6Chapter 53: PerfectionAs to the other orders that were inferior in this visiting of the far realm of spren, the Elsecallers were prodigiously benevolent, allowing others as auxiliary to their visits and interactions; though they did never relinquish their place as prime liaisons with the great ones of the spren; and the Lightweavers and Willshapers both also had an affinity to the same, though neither were true masters of that realm.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 6, page 2Chapter 54: Veil's LessonThere came also sixteen of the order of Windrunners, and with them a considerable number of squires, and finding in that place the Skybreakers dividing the innocent from the guilty, there ensued a great debate.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 28, page 3Chapter 55: The Rule of the GameThe considerable abilities of the Skybreakers for making such amounted to an almost divine skill, for which no specific Surge or spren grants capacity, but however the order came to such an aptitude, the fact of it was real and acknowledged even by their rivals.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 28, page 3Chapter 56: Whitespine uncagedTwenty-three cohorts followed behind, that come from the contributions of the King of Makabakam, for though the bond between man and spren was at times inexplicable, the ability for bonded spren to manifest in our world rather than their own grew stronger through the course of the oaths given.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 35, page 9Chapter 57: To Kill the WindMalchin was stymied, for though he was inferior to none in the arts of war, he was not suitable for the Lightweavers; he wished for his oaths to be elementary and straightforward, and yet their spren were liberal, as to our comprehension, in definitions pertaining to this matter; the process included speaking truths as an approach to a threshold of self-awareness that Malchin could never attain.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 12, page 12Chapter 58: Never AgainSo Melishi retired to his tent, and resolved to destroy the Voidbringers upon the next day, but that night did present a different stratagem, related to the unique abilities of the Bondsmiths; and being hurried, he could make no specific account of his process; it was related to the very nature of the Heralds and their divine duties, an attribute the Bondsmiths alone could address.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 30, page 18 Rough order of WOR: But as for Ishi'Elin, his was the part most important at their inception; he readily understood the implications of Surges being granted to men, and caused organization to be thrust upon them; as having too great power, he let it be known that he would destroy each and every one, unless they agreed to be bound by precepts and laws.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 2, page 4-------------------------------------------------------------------And thus were the disturbances in the Revv toparchy quieted, when, upon their ceasing to prosecute their civil dissensions, Nalan'Elin betook himself to finally accept the Skybreakers who had named him their master, when initially he had spurned their advances and, in his own interests, refused to countenance that which he deemed a pursuit of vanity and annoyance; this was the last of the Heralds to admit to such patronage.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 5, page 17--------------------------------------------------------------------As to the other orders that were inferior in this visiting of the far realm of spren, the Elsecallers were prodigiously benevolent, allowing others as auxiliary to their visits and interactions; though they did never relinquish their place as prime liaisons with the great ones of the spren; and the Lightweavers and Willshapers both also had an affinity to the same, though neither were true masters of that realm.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 6, page 2---------------------------------------------------------------------------------And now, if there was an uncut gem among the Radiance, it was the Willshapers; for though enterprising, they were erratic, and Invia wrote of them, “capricious, frustrating, unreliable,” as taking it for granted that others would agree; this may have been an intolerant view, as often Invia expressed, for this order was said to be most varied, inconsistent in temperament save for a general love of adventure, novelty, or oddity.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 7, page 1-----------------------------------------------------------------------------They also, when they had settled their rulings in nature of each bond's placement, called the name of it the Nahel bond, with regard to it's effect upon the souls of those caught in its grip; in this description, each was related to the bonds that drive Roshar itself, ten Surges, named in turn and two for each order; in this light, it can be seen that each order would by necessity share one Surge with each of its neighbors.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 8, page 6---------------------------------------------------------------Now, as the Truthwatchers were esoteric in nature, their order being formed entirely of those who never spoke or wrote of what they did, in this lies frustration for those who would see their exceeding secrecy from the outside; they were not naturally inclined to explanation; and in the case of Corberon's disagreements, their silence was not a sign of exceeding abundance of disdain, but rather and exceeding abundance of tact.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 11, page 6--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Malchin was stymied, for though he was inferior to none in the arts of war, he was not suitable for the Lightweavers; he wished for his oaths to be elementary and straightforward, and yet their spren were liberal, as to our comprehension, in definitions pertaining to this matter; the process included speaking truths as an approach to a threshold of self-awareness that Malchin could never attain.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 12, page 12-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Now, as each order was thus matched to the nature and temperament of the Herald it named patron, there was none more archetypal of this than the Stonewards, who followed after Talenelat'Elin, Stonesinew, Herald of War: they thought it a point of virtue to exemplify resolve, strength, and dependability. Alas, they took less care for imprudent practice of their stubbornness, even in the face of proven error.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 13, page 1----------------------------------------------------------------But as for the Bondsmiths, they had members only three, which number was not uncommon for them; nor did they seek to increase this order was in continual accompaniment of Urithiru and its thrones. Their spren was understood to be specific, and to persuade them to grow to the magnitude of the other orders was seen as seditious.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 16, page 14----------------------------------------------------------------------And when they were spoken of by the common folk, the Releasers claimed to be misjudged because of the dreadful nature of their power; and when they dealt with others, always were they firm in their claim that other epithets, notably „Dustbringers,“ often heard in the common speech, were unacceptable substitutions, in particular for their similarity to the word „Voidbringers.“ They did also exercise anger in great prejudice regarding it, though to many who speak, there was little difference between there two assemblies.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 17, page 11----------------------------------------------------------------When Simol was informed of the arrival of the Edgedancers, a concealed consternation and terror, as is common in such cases, fell upon him; although they were not the most demanding of orders, their graceful, limber movements hid a deadliness that was, by this time, quite renowned; also, they were the most articulate and refined of the Radiants.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 20, page 12-----------------------------------------------------------------------Yet, were the orders not disheartened by so great a defeat, for the Lightweavers provided spiritual sustenance; they were enticed by those glorious creations to venture on a second assault.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 21, page 10-------------------------------------------------------------------------These Lightweavers, by no coincidence, included many who pursude the arts; namly: writers, artists, musicians, painters, sculptors. Considering the order's general temperament, the tales of their strange and varied mnemonic abilities may have been embellished.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 21, page 10---------------------------------------------------------------------------There came also sixteen of the order of Windrunners, and with them a considerable number of squires, and finding in that place the Skybreakers dividing the innocent from the guilty, there ensued a great debate.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 28, page 3-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------The considerable abilities of the Skybreakers for making such amounted to an almost divine skill, for which no specific Surge or spren grants capacity, but however the order came to such an aptitude, the fact of it was real and acknowledged even by their rivals.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 28, page 3-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------So Melishi retired to his tent, and resolved to destroy the Voidbringers upon the next day, but that night did present a different stratagem, related to the unique abilities of the Bondsmiths; and being hurried, he could make no specific account of his process; it was related to the very nature of the Heralds and their divine duties, an attribute the Bondsmiths alone could address.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 30, page 18---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------In short, if any presume Kazilah to be innocent, you must look at the facts and deny them in their entirety; to say that the Radiants were destitute of integrity for executing one of their own, one who had obviously fraternized with the unwholesome elements, indicates the most slothful of reasoning; for the enemy's baleful influence demanded vigilance on all occasions, of war and of peace.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 32, page 17-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Twenty-three cohorts followed behind, that come from the contributions of the King of Makabakam, for though the bond between man and spren was at times inexplicable, the ability for bonded spren to manifest in our world rather than their own grew stronger through the course of the oaths given.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 35, page 9-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Now, as the Windrunners were thus engaged, arose the event which has hitherto been referenced: namely, that discovery of some wicked thing of eminence, though whether it be some rogueries among the Radiants' adherents or of some external origin, Avena would not suggest.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 38, page 6That they responded immediately and with great consternation is undeniable, as these were primary among those who would forswear and abandon their oaths. The term Recreance was not then applied, but has since become a popular title by which this event is named.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 38, page 6------------------------------------------------------------------This act of great villainy went beyond the impudence which had hitherto been ascribed to the orders; as the fighting was particularly intense at this time, many attributed this act to a sense of inherent betrayal; and after they withdrew, about two thousand made assault upon them, destroying much of the membership; but this was only nine of the ten, as one said they would not abandon their arms and flee, but instead entertained great subterfuge at the expense of the other nine.—From Words of Radiance, chapter 38, page 20------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited January 10, 2015 by WEZ313 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawToast225 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Good compilation, but it has been compiled in this order. I won't find the link for you because I know someone else will. Anyway, you got an up vote from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 You are to be commended for the work done, but alas, I'm afraid it was pointless. I'm sure there are other recollections of death rattles somewhere in the forum. for wok I'm 100% sure, and probably wor was included too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bort Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Well, I found it helpful at least, thanks Wez. Some interesting comments in there, especially about the Bondsmiths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBFII Posted January 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Thanks Bort!! I accidentally down voted you im sorry... Today is not a good day... I just though looking at them might help us understand the tidbits we got. Edited January 12, 2015 by WEZ313 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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