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LUNA, I never claimed to be selfless. No selfless guy would make a plan that put him at the center of attention for two cycles. Police officers will get confirmation once they have been scanned as innocent. EDIT: and Conquester, I've sent a plan to L, I just need them to get online and confirm it.
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Neither of us have revealed the Identity of our L.
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Problem: Alias Sheep and I have been contacted by separate L's. I can't think of any way to verify one over the other. . . Honestly, with all the information I have, despite being unconfirmed, I wish I was the holder.
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According to her post, no.
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That's a relief.
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As many people have said, I could be a Holder, performing a high risk high gain play. I'm not, but that possibility exists. Which is why I'm irritated at the sheer amount of role reveals I've had. I meant to learn them tomorrow. Not today. I'm in contact with police, murderers, and most frighteningly, L. People, in this case, it worked out ok, because I'm not an eliminator, but there are times when Eliminators will do gambles like this, Especially disposable eliminators like the holder! Please don't be so trusting of someone, just because they offer themselves up to be lynched as part of a plan to help the village! If I was a Holder, I could do a cremload of damage right now. That said, L, if you didn't contact me, then the Holder did. I haven't told L any of the names I've been given, and I won't until tomorrow. But if no other L contacts me, then I will assume that I'm in contact with the legit L, and reveal all the names of the police and murderers to L. (I waffled a bit on whether I should say him or her, in order to disguise him/her, but whatever. I'm just going to say L.) Of course, I'm naturally going to be suspicious of any L's who do claim they're L now. And Elbereth, The mass Murderer reveal wouldn't help in my opinion. I was simply putting out all the options I had thought of.
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The one good thing about Trump winning, is that people will stop making jokes about Time travelers killing Hitler. -
Arraenae, I'm uncertain as to why you originally voted for me: Was it because you thought this was a flaw? Or Something else? Either way, I'd like to know why you haven't retracted your vote on me. vote on me.
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Jo and the Bush replied to Delightful's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
I don't think Trump will be able to do anything if he becomes president. The politicians can't stand him, and are going to do their best to block his every action. Of course, he can and will ruin all foreign relations. -
To answer a question asked in a PM, yes, I did send the exact same PM to everyone less than an Hour after the game started. You can ask anyone, and they'll confirm it. I'm replying in the thread to prove accountability.
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Because Ryuk can't take risks. Once Ryuk dies, we win. Of course, his Holder could easily fake claim to be police. However, as I said here, I'll only provide L's name to the officer currently leading the protection detail. If multiple people claim as such, I'll give neither the name. L will instead investigate one. If that one shows up innocent, we'll kill the other. ALVRON, a few questions. Can there be multiple L's? Can Ryuk kill his holder and get a new Holder on the same turn?
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Hmm. You're right about that. I can think of a few ways around that, but most of them can be easily circumvented by Ryuk sacrificing his holder to kill L. The best way I can think of to salvage my plan is to delay it. L contacts me as before, I give him the names of all the police, and only tell L's name to the one currently assigned to lead the protection detail. He'll have to check them off one at a time. If two cops claim to be in charge of protection that cycle, then one of them must be Ryuk or his Holder, so we'll find one of them that way. But that severely limits who L can investigate. I missed that Ryuk starts with a randomly chosen Holder. I thought he would be picking one tonight. Which is actually better for my plan. I don't have to die until we successfully kill a holder, because I can't be converted until then.
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Then by all means, do so! I hate players who put out a plan, then attack people who go against their plan. My idea shouldn't be any more important than yours. I do think it's a bad idea though. Unrelated note, if we do go with my plan, can I get police protection tonight? I've really tossed myself out there right now.
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Current Thoughts: We can probably use the Murderer kill as a Second Lynch. Ryuk only has one voice right now, so He can be partially certain that he doesn't have much influence. If the murderer's are willing, I'd love for them to target whoever has the second most number of votes. Of course, that will lead to the death of two villagers most days, but they're going to die anyway. (Yes, I know how suspicious that sounds, but it's true.) (Of course, I don't want to use either the lynch or the kill today.) Secondly, We need some Police protection on L pronto. The best plan I've come up with to do that is this. L targets Me, learns that I'm Innocent. He contacts me, and on day two, police and murderers reveal themselves to me. I pass their names onto L, and ask the Police to always protect him. I am killed, by either the murderers or the Lynch on day two. Because otherwise, Ryuk would convert me, and I would tell him the names of everyone. (Yes I'm volunteering to be killed 48 hours from now.(Unless someone else would prefer to do that)) What do you guys think of such a plan? Third, Day one lynches. We have an equal chance of killing Ryuk as we do L. We have a better chance of killing a player with a role than we do of killing Ryuk. I vote we don't lynch today. Fourth, I've been thinking about the murderers. Ryuk will claim to be one, since it's the only way he can slide underneath L's investigation. What do you guys think of a mass murderer role reveal? (Not advocating one, since I don't like it.) It would give us a smaller group to search in, but also reveal our only kill roles, plus Ryuk might not claim murderer. But if he doesn't, and L finds someone who isn't a murderer, but is Guilty, it's likely they're Ryuk or a holder. So, biggest thing is, what does everyone think of the plan I have put forward to get protection of L?
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My vote actually counted? That's slightly beautiful. Could we have lynched Meta before the game began?
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Thank you! I haven't gotten to do a man angry at himself for a long time, so RP'ing Joseph has been fun, especially since Meta gave him such an outlet.
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Memories. Memories of previous men who had controlled him, used him as their tool, their fist, their bloody dog. Memories of years spent in prison because he hadn't been his own master, because he was disposable. A man to be used until it was inconvenient to keep him, and then he was thrown to the police to hide his masters. Never again. Never! Joseph suddenly realized that people were staring at him with some trepidation. Right. He closed his eyes, and sucked in a deep breath. He forced his fists to unclench, and his teeth to unlock. Relax. "I'm sorry, Ma'am? I don't believe I caught your name, but I don't think you understand. Kira is my priority. I would much rather find him than M. But, M has given me no proof he isn't Kira, nor has he given me any proof that he wouldn't happily kill me if it meant getting to Kira sooner." He stepped forward, to less than an arm's length away from the emissary. He had dropped his umbrella at some point, but it hardly mattered if M had eyes here. "I will never be a tool for men like M again. He's just as dangerous as Kira. Men of no morals, who believe that what they are doing is right, and that the ends justify the means." He turned away, facing the larger portion of the gathering. "My first priority, even above that of killing Kira, is keeping myself, my friends, and those few I consider family alive. I would do anything to keep them alive. M has said outright that he is willing to sacrifice any of us to get what he wants. Just because his want's align with our, does not mean we should not oppose him! He is just as much a threat to us while Kira lives as Kira himself is!" Joseph turned back to the Emissary. "M sent you with a copy of our records? Who cares. That means nothing. They are a copy. Until M proves that he values our lives, Then I will hunt him like the rabid dog he is. If you want to work with him to take down Kira, then do so. I won't harm you for that. You're not a villain for working with a sociopath, you're just ignorant. That goes for all of you. If you choose to work for M, you're safe from my wrath. I reserve that for M and Kira alone." Joseph bent down a bit, putting his mouth next to the emissary's ear, ans whispered so that only she could hear him. "Tell your master, that I'm coming for him. The only way he can prove his good intentions is to reveal his face and name to us, just as we are known to him. Otherwise, he will be the first man I will ever kill." Hey Meta, do you have a backup/decoy base that Sumiko and I can blow up/burn down/knock over/sink into a swamp? Also, This reminder mainly applies to myself, but remember that RP shouldn't bias you. We currently have no idea who Kira is. I could be Kira. Pre-game debate shouldn't influence how you see alignment You should go read the first several games. This use to be the Norm, and I for one want to it become the Norm again. I'm actually going to go RP as Jonly in LG21 in a bit.
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"If I can figure out M or Kira's adress, I'd like you to blow them up. With or without them in it. Your choice."
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"You've all raised good points, so let's put it to a vote. Who votes that M is benevolent, and that we should share our actions with him, and who votes we maintain secrecy against him? Or a third option. I vote for Secrecy."
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Yeah, I can't think of an in world justification for that, or for any of the players survivng past day 1.
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"Nice speech," Rikku said, "But does M have to be an enemy? If M wants us to get rid of Kira, we want to get rid of Kira -- I don't see why that's a bad thing." Joseph nodded along. It was a point he haf expected to be brought up. "Indeed. But that doesn't make us allies. Kira seeks to tear us apart, to kill us one by one. He'll hide away from us, as M is doing now. We need to be able to watch each other, moniter and get to know one another. M's methods for finding Kira are counter productive, because if we follow M's methods of hiding, then we'll lose if M is Kira." "Right now, we have no proof that M isn't Kira. And until he works with us, so that we can all prove we aren't, he will remain my top suspect for being Kira." I think this is the first time someone has voted for someone before the game starts. Eh, whatever. I'm just having fun right now.
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Sorry for the delay in posting this. Prom shenanigans. Joseph was glad for the thick grey clouds that had rolled in. They cast a shade of darkness over the land, and hid him from view. Even if M did have access to satellites, he shouldn't be able to see him. Unless he misunderstood how satellites worked. Which was quite possible. Hopefully Alex would know how they worked, assuming he showed up. Joseph slowly turned about, surveying all edges of the field he had picked out. It was large enough that while he could see people on the edges, he couldn't recognize them. He could recognize which were under Umbrella's though. Hopefully they had received his Email, or had been invited by others. Of course, it was also likely at least one was secretly working for M. But Joseph would show them trust, and hope they would do the same. After all, M was working against Kira as well, and Kira was the higher priority. People began to arrive. He nodded to each in turn, and explained he would start once he had thought everyone had arrived. So they sat, and whispered in pairs to each other. Once five minutes had passed from the arrival of the latest, he decided that no one else was coming. He cleared his throat, loudly enough to get everyone's attention, and began. "Thank you all for coming today, even those of you whom I didn't invite. I don't know how you knew to arrive here, and I'll want to know that eventually, but for now, I'll assume that you're here because we have two common enemies. Kira and M. Both of them threaten us, so both of them must be removed. But I don't know how to do it. I simply know that we, as a group, can. We're all skilled individuals. Together, we can survive." I left attendance open ended. If you want to be there, just post, if you don't post, I'll assume you didn't show up.
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What ever type you want to grab.
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Glad to have you! Do any of the people involved in this situation want to do anything first, Or can I arrive at the field?
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I have been waiting for this game, ever since Quiver and I came up with the original concept. Adonalsium bless you for running it Seonid. Jonly, a sliver of Preservation and Feruchemist is in the game.
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- joe did good shardgames
- also lg10 sequel
- day 2
- so is cultivation
- is this the recreance?
- and a knight radiant
- no mistakes this time
- please
- odium reigns on roshar
- pretty please
- odium lives a little longer
- goodbye devotion
- night 5
- last minute vote ploys
- lg21
- because ruin destroyed it
- pity odium didnt
