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  1. I'd like to confirm the spoiler policy for non-forum sections of the site. As with the last large Stormlight release, I'm planning to post my chapter by chapter reactions and analysis for Winds and Truth. (See RoW liveblog linked in my signature.) When I consulted staff regarding this for Rhythm of War, it was determined that the blog section of the site is visited infrequently enough that a prominent spoiler warning at the top of each post was sufficient, as that would clearly set expectations and would be the featured text in any preview potentially showing up on the other sections of the site. 

    Does this still meet with approval? I haven't been a frequent site visitor in a few years, so I wouldn't be surprised if some combination of policies, format, and usage patterns make the new situation different. 

    (I probably won't be ready to start posting for at least a week, so no rush on making a firm decision.)

     

    Thanks!

  2. Storms! I just realized that I somehow neglected to actually post my updated catalog of swears after Rhythm of War released. My apologies to all for the egregious multi-year delay! This is an update on my prior iterations of this compilation of swears, most recently the Oathbringer edition. I will try to be much more timely when I've completed the Winds and Truth edition.

    To my knowledge, the list is exhaustive for all Stormlight books prior to Winds and Truth. Please comment with suggested additions. 

    On attributions: In most cases, speaker attributions are omitted for the sake of clarity, but speakers are identified parenthetically if their identity adds important context to the entry. If you think a particular phrase should be attributed (or not), please make your case in a comment.

     

    Storms and Storming are universal, and people use them frequently. So far we haven’t had many scenes from people on the western half of the continent where the storms are weaker; there is a good chance that the storms are invoked far less in such regions.

    Notably, Taffa uses a storm-related curse in Dalinar’s Starfalls vision, indicating that it was used historically as well. 

    • Variants and related curses:
      • Stormwinds
      • Storms alight
      • Storms within
      • Blustering
      • Storms bright and brash
      • Storms send -- (a construction more commonly used when invoking the Heralds, see below)

     

    The Heralds, collectively and as individuals, are invoked across many Rosharan cultures.

    Vorin speakers most frequently swear by Kelek, but across the series Vorin speakers have invoked each of the ten Heralds at least once. As they occur in curses, the Alethi forms are: Jezerezeh, Nalan, Chana, Vev/Vedeledev, Pailiah/Pali, Ash, Battah, Kelek, Talat, Ishi. Herdazian speakers will use Kalak instead.

    • [Herald] knows or [Herald] send are frequent formulations. ”Chana help” is a similar construction
    • [Herald’s] [attribute] A herald is often paired with a body part or attribute. Some appear to be traditional associations, but others are most likely spontaneous variations. (e.g. Nale's nuts). 
      Examples with traditional attributes:
      • Kelek's breath / tongue 
      • Ash's eyes
      • Ishar's soul
      • Nalan's hand
      • Pali's mind—(Adrotagia)
      • Vev's golden keys
      • Talat's hand / palms / nails

    Notable unique examples:

      • Ash's mask
      • Ash's brush of endless paint
      • Kelek's own truth
      • Sweet wisdom of Battar -- (Taffa, from Dalinar's vision)
    • Other Variants:
      • Living Heralds above
      • Heralds send
      • Heralds-forsaken
      • What in Kelek's name
      • Thank Kelek

    Azish speakers refer to the Heralds as Kadasixes and use alternate names for them, primarily invoking Yaezir (Jezrien)

    • Variants: "for Yaezir's sake," "Yaezir help", "Yezir's own speed"
    • Kadasixes and Stars -- the association with stars is interesting, especially considering cosmological features like Taln's scar and the gas giants shown in the star chart in Arcanum Unbounded.

    Tashikki speakers frequently invoke Tashi, a name for Ishar. Variants: "Tashi above," "Tashi, God of Gods and Binder of the World"

     

    Other Vorin Curses

    • Almighty is a frequent Vorin curse, referencing Honor/Tanavast. Many variants of usage are found:
      • "Almighty above"
      • "by the Almighty's tenth name"
      • Elithanathile (tenth name of the Almighty)
      • "what in the Almighty's own eyes?"
      • "by the names of God himself"
      • "Almighty, cast from heaven to dwell in our hearts"
    • Stormfather is a ubiquitous Vorin curse. NOTE: While the general usage is distinct, we should remember that Vorinism has conflated the Stormfather with Jezerezeh/Jezrien. In contrast, the Natan people conflate him with Kelek.
    • Damnation is an especially common curse among Vorin speakers. Variants and related phrases:
      • “What in Damnation's eleventh name?"—(Sebarial)
      • Storms above and Damnation beyond
      • Damnation's own device
    • The Tranquiline Halls, frequently shortened simply to Halls
      • holy halls
      • Halls above
    • Blood of my fathers  -  Used so far by Dalinar, Amaram, and Moash, this may be a specific feature of the violent Alethi culture, rather than the wider Vorin nations. Sometimes rendered as ancestors rather than fathers.

     

    Other Human Cultures

    • Thaylen
      • Passions-- Rendered "Blessed passion" on one occasion (Yokska). Thaylen speakers also say things like "I had Passion that help would come," meaning hope or expectation. Both usages are related to (but distinct from) the Passion spoken of by singers Fused, and Odium himself. The singer version so far does not appear to be used as a curse.
    • Herdazian
      • Flick my sparks –(Lopen), a reference to sparkflickers.
      • Three Gods--So far only used by The Mink in modern day and Taffa from Dalinar's visions, so the association with Herdaz could be mistaken.
    • Unkalaki
      • Beautiful lights and fallen stars -- (Rock) 
      • Blessed gods of sea and stone -- (Rock) 
      • Kali’kalin’s ghost – (Rock)
    • Shin
      • Glories within—(Szeth)
      • Stones Unhallowed -- (Szeth)

     

    Listeners/Singers

    • Thank the purest tones -- (Rlain)
    • Praise the ancient storms -- (Venli)
    • Oh rhythms ancient and new-- (Venli)
    • For Ado's sake -- (Raboniel) **as the speaker is a Fused, this might more appropriately be considered an ancient or worldhopper curse rather than a Listener one.

     

    Spren It is not yet clear how spren culture divides, so instances are noted by speaker:

    • Wyndle: “Sweet virtue” and variants of "Mother" including “Oh blessed mother” and "Oh Mother, oh Cultivation!"
    • Stormfather: "Why in Damnation", an apparently Vorin appropriation.

     

     Unique or Uncategorized

    • Drynets—a sailor curse implied to be quite inappropriate.
    • Stonefalls --(Adolin)
    • Starving--unique curse used by food-obsessed Lift. Variants include "Starve me"
    • Storming Mother of the World and Father of Storms Above. (Lift) Originally Reshi, Lift has travelled widely, so it is difficult to assign a parent culture.
    • frozen -- (Malata) derogatory adjective, possibly Veden
    • Dustmother—(Ton, a Bavlander). Possibly Vorin?
    • Starlight - (Geranid) Speaker is a Vorin ardent with extended residence in the Reshi isles
    • By the Brightcaller's Rays -- used by Drehy, so presumably a phrase from far western Roshar (presumably Rira)
    • Blight it all – (Axies) presumably Siah/Aimian, but Axies is a traveler and could have acquired it elsewhere
    • This place [Urithiru] glows like Nomon’s own backside.--(Red) This reference to one of the moons is somewhat ambiguous. It could be merely descriptive, but the construction mirrors other in-world swears, and so I've included it here.
    • Oh God of Oaths

    Worldhoppers

    • Shadows—(Nazh) Threnody
    • By purity's eye - (Nazh) Threnody
    • Merciful Domi - (Riino) Sel
    • Damnation--(Azure) A Vorin curse, notable because Azure uses it ungrammatically as "Damnation me" and "Damnation these creatures," betraying her incomplete command of the language
    • Oh God. Oh Adonalsium! - (Ash)
    • Heavens, no--(Wit) Notable only for the lack of similar phrases by native Rosharans.
    • God Beyond --multiple worldhopping speakers, but notably Dalinar has adopted this invocation
    • The Beyond knows --(Wit)

     

     

    Highlight of new/notable instances from Dawnshard and Rhythm of War, in order of appearance.

    Spoiler

    DAWNSHARD

    "Gods far and near" - Talik
    "By the Halls themselves"
    "hie me off to Damnation"
     

    RHYTHM OF WAR

    “Storms bright and brash”-Navani
    “Vev’s golden keys!”
    “By the Three Gods” - Herdazian General
    “No casualties so far, thank Kelek.”
    “These Heralds-forsaken stormlands”
    Storms send he was still alive
    “Nale’s nuts,” muttered one of Adolin’s soldiers. 
    “Stonefalls.” Adolin
    “God Beyond willing…” Dalinar
    “By Kalak’s mighty breath.” The Mink
    “Kelek, Jezerezeh, and Heralds above”-Adolin
    “That’s Kelek’s own truth.” - Teft
    “Almighty send”
    “Ash’s mask”
    “Ash’s brush of endless paint...”
    “Holy halls!”
    “For Ado’s sake” - Raboniel (fused)
    “This place [Urithiru] glows like Nomon’s own backside.” - Red
    “Halls above” 
    “By the blood of our fathers” 
    “Kelek help him.”
    “Oh storms. Oh rhythms ancient and new.” - Venli
    “Praise the ancient storms” –Venli
    “By the holiest name of the Almighty” –Navani
    “Thank the purest tones.” –Rlain
    The honest-by-Kelek’s-own-breath truth. --Teft 
    “You know Kelek’s own storming truth?”
    Elithanathile (tenth name of the almighty)
    “Storms above and Damnation beyond.”
    “Damnation’s own device, that was.”
    “Go with Yaezir’s own speed.”--Yanagawn
    “God Beyond bless it to be enough.”
    “Storms within” -Dalinar
    “The Beyond knows” –Wit
     

     

  3. All updates completed to this point! Sorry for any delays.

     

    On 10/30/2022 at 9:40 PM, The Halcyon Girl said:

    Where can I find this map? In case I want to know if anyone else is in—uhhhh, Denver?

    In case you haven't found it yet, the map can be found here.

     

    On 11/1/2022 at 0:57 PM, AonDoor said:

    Can you move me to Missouri?

    I've placed a new marker for you in Missouri, since I didn't find a prior marker for you on the map. Has your username changed? If so, I'll correct the out of date entry.

  4. On 4/25/2022 at 11:17 AM, EmulatonStromenkiin said:

    Welcome to West Virginia

     

    On 4/18/2022 at 10:05 AM, Emery the Steelrunner said:

    I’m from Idaho Falls, Idaho.

    Sorry, I'm a little confused about these posts. Right now I've added @Emery the Steelrunnerto the map in Idaho Falls, and @EmulatonStromenkiin in West Virginia. If this is incorrect, please tell me how to fix it and I'll be happy to do so.

  5. On 3/23/2022 at 0:37 PM, Szeth's Facepalm said:

    Hey, does anyone know how to get little sharder location icons off? Because i clicked on the link and now every single time i open google maps the little icons are there ;-;

    Nice! Now you have reminders of this inclusive fandom everywhere you go!

    My best guess is that you've added the Sharders around the World map to your personal account, in which case it should show up as an available list in "Your Places" under the dropdown menu. If so, you can set that list to be hidden by default, or delete it entirely. Don't worry, it won't get rid of the master list.

  6. I've added both of you.

    On 12/2/2021 at 11:13 PM, Ookla the unintelligible said:

    I'm in North Carolina.

    Do you have a non-Ookla name you'd like me to use, or is this your semi-permanent username?

    On 12/6/2021 at 7:05 PM, Robin Hatter said:

    I live in China. Is that enough, or do I need to be more specific?

    "China" is good enough--it's all about how specific you are comfortable with being. Feel free to PM me if you want the map marker moved from where I placed it.

  7. I've gone ahead and created a site blog and started posting there. The blog feature of 17S is hidden enough that I generally forget it exists, so I believe the danger of someone stumbling upon it inadvertently and seeing spoilers is minimal. However, if the mods disagree I'm willing to delete it and find another solution.

  8. I am liveblogging my reactions to the Rhythm of War preview chapters, and plan to continue doing so through the rest of the book after official release. Currently I'm doing so in a Google Doc. Would it be appropriate to start a thread in the RoW spoiler board for this, to post my chapter by chapter reactions? My reactions are fairly extensive and are not structured in a way that's especially conducive for discussion, so I would feel odd about posting them in the current chapter-by-chapter discussion threads, or in the post-release discussion threads that aren't broken out by chapter.

    At the same time, I'm not sure that having a thread dedicated to or centered around one user's thoughts is necessarily a good fit for 17S as a site. What do the mods think?

    (I will note that I also did a similar process for Starsight and Oathbringer, also currently stored on Google Docs. So if this is deemed an appropriate use of the site, I might also consider migrating those over despite not being current releases.)

  9. On 6/21/2020 at 0:08 PM, Quitecontrary said:

    As a fellow returnee, I welcome you back into the fold.  Let's celebrate with waffles!

    Yay waffles!

    I swear I recognize your avatar from another forum--are you active on Space Battles or Sufficient Velocity?

     

    Speaking of which, I had somehow forgotten what a wonderful corner of the internet 17S is. I had been back on the site for all of 20 minutes when I suddenly realized that I hadn't come across a bashing post, or a troll, and I didn't expect to. Thank you once again to all of the staff who have somehow cultivated a shockingly friendly culture on this site.

  10. It's been almost 18 months since I logged in, so I figured I should drop a line here to say thanks for holding down the fort. Initially I took a break to finish my PhD (turns out that obsessing over online forums can contribute to a detrimental effect on your productivity), but then when I finally graduated I got sucked into the Worm fandom and have been reading and writing way too many fanfics in that community.

    If you don't know me from before, I am the proud author of "If Doctor Seuss Wrote the Stormlight Archive" (linked in my sig) and I used to help with the tracking thread (I see several notifications from people tagging me over there, so I'll be trying to belatedly follow up on those things right after this). 

    I have a year and a half of WoBs to catch up on, plus I need to read Starsight and anything else that I've been neglecting since then. If you have any favorite or particularly revelatory WoB from the past year, link me to it!

    I'm looking forward to being back.

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