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Awesome. Thank you both for the help. I am looking forward to getting back into it. Now I have some good places to start. Again thanks for the help!

Hello fellow Brandon fans. A few years ago I used this site after getting introduced to a book you all may know called The Way of Kings. Everyone was friendly and helpful. After a lot of amazing things that happened in my life I didn't have the time to browse this site or even a chance to read much anymore. I now have the chance to dive back into Mr Sanderson books again and I wanted to learn more about the Cosmere. I've read nearly all of his books Cosmere/Non Cosmere related. I was just wondering if you friendly people could point me in the right direction so I can expand that knowledge further. Thank you in advance.

Oh, thanks for the heads up Ookla. Knowing me I probably would of done that a lot.

Btw, thank you for your help! You deserves some upvotes for this, but unfortunately I have to wait til I get home seeing as my iPhone can't do it.

Thanks Ather I'm always looking for more books to read. My brother is always suggesting new books and before this sight I really only knew about Mistborn and TWOK so I'm really behind. I know what you mean about TWOK, the first time I read it I started it at 7pm at night and the only reason I stopped was because I heard birds outside my window and after opening the blind and the sun hitting my face I decided it was time for sleep. Haha.

I agree with most of hat you're saying Gloom, but the part about the Shin warriors getting fed up with living as servants. The Shin who choose to pick up weapons also choose to live the life of a warrior. Which could also mean that the oathstone could poses some sort of power, but that would be highly unlikely since Szeth was ready to kill King Taravangian, but his honor kept him In check. Which makes your idea about protecting sacred Herald relics plausible.

Thanks Ather. I actually half way through the first book now and loving it, but I don't think I'll like any book more then I like TWOK.

Good point. I used that as one of my reasons as to why I thought they didn't use plate.

I was also thinking for that theory, maybe some sort of power? like regrowth maybe?

Thanks for the feedback guys. It has got me thinking more of the ancient martial arts Szeth uses called Kammar. I looked more into it and I found this. TWOK: part 1- (Death wears white) page 202. Soldiers tried to reach him, but Szeth danced between them, using the ancient martial art of Kammar, which uses only the hands. It was meant as a less deadly form of fighting, but focused on grabbing enemies and using their wieght against them and immobilizing them. It was also ideal when one wanted to touch and infuse someone. It indicates that Kammar isn't really deadly (but doesn't rule out that they have other forms) so the only thing that makes it so dangerous when mentioned is Szeths ability to lash soldiers to the roof. He lashes to make himself light and uses Kammar to dodge and weave through them and all he has to do is touch them and with that touch he sends them up to fall to their doom. It doesn't mention any fatal strikes and the only thing that makes it so dangerous was Szeths bindings. With that said they could also have other fighting styles. So with all that, even if the Shin guards knew Kammar it would be hard to protect their master with a style that focus only on the use of hands to grab their opponent. Which would make it hard to fight spear wielders and bowman. (Which is quoted by Vstim, "lower your bows you know how they feel about them things.") and in cases I think it's hard to compare Shin guards to Szeth the surgebinder. As quoted by Teft, as Kaladin was fighting using stormlight (it could not make a man into something he was not. It enhanced, it strengthened, invigorated. It perfected.) so not only is he faster he's precise, he's agile, he's "inhuman" and his skill with Kammar is enhanced. I should of looked into this more before making my theory, but it was my first time and I was excited/nervous to get it out .

I also forgot to mention their hand to hand combat. But the one time you see it Szeth uses it with his surgebinding and even tho Thresh has guards fighting bandits or others that use weapons would still be hard with only your hands.

Well, this is my first time posting a theory on this site so be kind . Hopefully this is new to you and gives you more ideas for your own theories or helps you think of new ones. So my Topic title "Shins with Blades" is more focused on Shin warriors with Shardblades. I started looking into this theory when I came across the trade between Vstim and the Shin farmer via Thresh-Son-Esan. TWOK: Part 1- (Rysn) page 476 (sorry I have to type this as I don't have Ebook) "Wow "Rysn said. "He brought a lot of servants". "Servants?" Vstim said. "The fellows in brown." Her Babsk smiled. " Those are his guards, child." On that page she mistakes Shin warriors as servants. He who Adds, the Farmer lavished with attention and respected escorted by warriors without weapons seems like an uncommon thing. Although it doesn't say if they do or do not have weapons I believe Rysns observations indicates that they don't. As an merchant in training it's part of her job to observe her buyers to know how best to haggle with them, so seeing as she mistakes Shin warriors for servants indicates that they were unarmed. There are other things that don't hint at it but seem a bit out of place. TWOK: Part 1- ( A Work of Art) page 492 He was required to carry the Blade until his death, after which Shin Stone Shamans would recover it from whomever had killed him. (I Might be taking this out of context but hey that's theories for you ) Szeth is smart and he's a thinker. To say that so decidedly and not doubt one bit that the Stone Shamans will retrieve the blade from "whomever had killed him" makes you wonder.. HOW?!. We are talking about the assassin in white. he kills Kings and High Princes. to retrieve the blade from either one would be through war or endless amounts of wealth which the Shin most likely don't have as quoted from Vstim " I have offered them spheres but they find them worthless. Or unholy. Or too holy to use." But a Stone Shaman with Shin warriors with Shardblades wouldn't have a problem retrieving that Blade. TWOK: Part 1- (Rysn) page 476 "Here, warriors are the lowliest of men - kind of like slaves. Men trade and sell them between houses by way of little stones that signify ownership, and any man who picks up a weapon must join them and be treated the same." The Farmers warriors had no weapons, or did they? 2 main sins you read about Szeth is committing murder and walking on/ destroying stone. There is one item that can do both and it's a weapon hidden within the user.. Shardblades. Picking up a weapon such as this would seem like a quick way to make you lose respect in a place like Shinovar. As for all Shin warriors, carrying Blades seems impossible, but if you view the map of Roshar Shinovar doesn't seem as big as the rest of Roshar and seeing as being a warrior is frowned upon in Shinovar the amount of warriors might not be a great as most people think. There is a part in the book where Dalinar sees the Radiants give away their Shardblades. he quoted that there are less then 100 Blades and Plates in all of Roshar and that more then 300 Radiants gave up their Blades that day. So where are the rest? Shinovar is a place cut off from most of Roshar, foreigners aren't allowed near farms and it seems Vstim and Thresh-Son-Esans trade was away from Shinovar. It also seems like little is known about them so they could hide Blades from others. I talk a lot about Shin warriors having Shardblades so you might wonder why I don't mention them having Shardplate. Shardplate is powered by Gemstones and the Vstim quote I mention before says that they find then too holy or unholy to use. This theory has flaws and points, but it's something that's been bugging me. So don't be shy to point out those flaws, we are all here to find something solid so your feedback is much appreciated and will help myself and others to come up with better theories!

Thanks Shardlet looking forward to it all.

Hi, my name is Abel. You may have already heard of me in my brothers introduction. Greetings from Australia. My brother introduced me to TWOK a while ago (what he didn't mention was that it was the first book released of a 10 book series and I'd be going mad waiting for the sequels) and it's been my favorite book ever since. He also introduced me to this site where I have already read some interesting theories and comments regarding those theories so I look forward to posting some of my own and hopefully they are as interesting as most of them on here.