Alvron

Given Zillah hasn't posted since D4 while Xino posted this Day, might I suggest you roleblock Xino? If Zillah is evil then they will need to post during this Night in order to use the attack.

That would be me. I transferred your vote onto Shanerocks. Or rather I used the PR subset ability to do so.

Do you know if it reveals EBIs if scanned?

Do your scans show up those that are EBIs or does it just gives roles and subset information?

What did the others bring? Any other book references? Also, if you only brought a Bead of Lerasium, how did you win? Did someone bring pewter or iron filings?

On the contrary, lynching me will lose us a role. It just won't lose us a subset role.

I'm thinking only one elim left myself. But I can see two. Without knowing who might have been cleared by the Research dept given that I don't think it's even been confirmed that they have a scan, I have it down to you Elk along with Coda and Zillah being the last elim. I would place my odds on Zillah personally. The unknown subset does not have a kill. I wish they did because then I would be using it. We have the vote manipulation. It's been used twice both on our own members. Once to save Abs and once to save me, although it turned out not to be needed last cycle. What do you mean by being exposed?

Well, I'm willing to do that for my own self preservation. Bard.

Don't get me wrong, I know what their reason was, it just doesn't work when applied to me as I explained in my post above. I would also point out that when I placed my vote I did so to try and prevent any vote manipulations changing the outcome. If Elandera had control of the Legal vote cancelling then it would've been only four votes on them at end of cycle and there is also another vote manipulation that moved a vote from Abs to Venture so depending on where the EBIs are and who's paying attention, they could've tied the vote up. And that was with my vote. If I hadn't voted, they could've swing the vote completely onto Elk. Thankfully they either didn't think of it or didn't have the resources to do so. Personally, I want to vote for Rath but since he's the final member of Legal, he has control over the two vote cancelling ability so he wouldn't have any votes at end of cycle. If I vote on either Bard or Kidpen, Rath can cancel the votes on them and leave me alone to be lynched rather than tied like I prefer. For my final words, something to think about. Rath has almost complete control over the lynch when it's this close. I'm honestly surprised the elims didn't kill him last Night and remove a powerful ability from the village hands.

I am suspicious of everyone and I trust no one. Wait, Scratch that. I trust Abs but that's about it. And seeing as I have two votes on me for some reason, I would like to point out that If I was evil, I wouldn't have voted on Elandera. I hadn't voted in the two cycles beforehand even when Venture was a possible lynch so why would I draw attention to myself now?

I'm just here for cake.

I agree completely with you. Even if there wasn't the possibilities of conversions, I wouldn't clear anyone for revealing information that a group of people knew about. Given that there are 15 players and as far as I know each subset has three members each, wouldn't that leave you a group short? Since you're not a member of the Legal or Sunshine departments and you didn't mention the Communication branch, I'm assuming you are one of their two remaining members. So that would leave two other groups currently unnamed. Although Kyne wasn't listed as being in any one group so maybe there's a group with only two members or there's something else I'm missing (which to be fair is far more likely).

If you have the game all but solved, why not share? Better to solve the game now than for you to die and take the information with you into the grave should you be attacked.

Elandera is basically only being lynched based on Bards claim. In past games when such claims tend to be wrong, the claimant tends to be lynched next cycle. I know but the odds of getting a tie at this stage is almost impossible. However, if you can somehow get two more votes on Elk, I'll be willing to switch and be the tying vote.

Ah, my thanks for pointing that out Rath. I thought I had kept better tabs on the death reveals but apparently not. So, if my tally is correct, which at this stage I wouldn't be surprised to find I missed something, then it's 5 votes on Elandera and 2 on Elk. We know of a vote moving ability and a vote cancelling ability at very least so it is currently possible for the lynch to end in a tie albeit unlikely. That said the evidence against Elandera isn't strong, just a roleblock claim against an apparent no kill. It is however the best lead we have. Sorry Elandera but I would rather learn the truth than hope it ends in a tie at this stage. Rest assured that if you are innocent, Bard will likely be lynched the next cycle. Votes: Xino (0): Elandera Bard (0): Elk Elandera (6): Bard, Xino, Rath, Abs, Kidpen, Alv Elk (2): Elandera, Zillah Coda (0): Elk

Many thanks. I don't think it will be necessary for someone to come forward to confirm your claim as it would be foolish of an elim to claim a whole subset which could easily be counterclaimed. I don't think your vote was moved to Venture. Two votes were removed and only one added. It makes more sense for the one on Abs to be moved to Venture rather than yours as that would've left it a tie, which of course isn't a bad thing but I doubt many would that. I'm interested in how you came by your information. Since the only Subsets to be revealed are the Sparkles and Communication groups, how do you know of the Legal department? It makes sense for there to be one but you could only know the name if you are either in the team, and Elim or have a PM from the Communication team and they have a PM with someone from Legal.

I didn't say they were inactive, just that they didn't post, although I will admit I wasn't clear as I could've been. What I meant was that the five players I listed didn't post during that Night cycle and thus are a possible source for the lack of kill. I myself talked in my Doc but didn't post so I was active just not publicly, I cannot however prove that as it would reveal another in the same subset. I'm not a big fan of the sudden votes piling on Elandera as it tends to stifle discussion even when it's a good lead. It does however bring up a couple of questions. @Young Bard, how do you know Elandera was roleblocked? Is there anyway it can be verified by another? For the record, I'm fine not having it confirmed I just want to cover all bases. Also, do you know what happened to your vote on Coda? I admit that at the start of the cycle I wanted to vote on you Bard so that is likely colouring me against your claim at moment.

Well, that's boring. Of those playing, I believe that Xino, myself, Shanerocks, Kidpen and Bard were the only ones not to post anything. Good chance of one of us being an elim.

I doubt they started with just one elim. That would be far too low given they can't rely on defections to bolster their numbers. A 2-3 elim team would be my guess. As for defections, I think one defection for Sequence death which we have seen and perhaps one for every 3? Set rank deaths/arrests but only after Sequence dies. I don't think there would be a reverse defection should we take out the EBI originals given they can just reveal everything though. Would be cool though if the defections were given a special Doc with the EBIs but the EBIs could stay anonymous so the defections couldn't reveal everything if they flipped again. Hmm, I might tinker with that idea a bit for one of my own games.

Not necessarily. At moment there's five active votes, each on one person so you only have a 20% chance of lynching. Right in the sweet spot. Votes: Bard (0): Shanerockes Elkanah (1): God King, Elandera Elandera (0): Xino Kynedath (0): Coda, Elkanah Zillah (0): Experience Alvron (1): Venture Experience (0): Abstrusity Abstrusity (1): Kidpen Kidpen (1): Abstrusity Venture (1) : Bard

6%? bah not worth it. 20% - 50% chance of death is the sweet spot. Under, it's not thrilling enough. Over, it's almost certain that you're the one to die. But 20-50% chance. Now there's where the fun lies. 1 post? It's two posts before this one. And I'm always nice. It's easier to slip the knife between the ribs if you're nice. I would also point out that not all members of the Set are killers. Some are administrators while others do manual labour. Professor Irich for instance.

As things currently stand the only votes are on Bard and Kynedath at one each. With almost no information to go on, a no vote might be worth considering. Votes: Bard (1): Shanerockes Elkanah (0): God King Elandera (0): Xino Kynedath (1): Coda Zillah (0): Experience

While I like the thought of being on the same GM level as Joe, I don't think any of my games have allowed players to kill the GM. I enjoy living too much I guess.

*is convinced otherwise*