Alvron

I never left... I was watching.  Always.

17 hours since last post?  That's far too long.

As much as I would like to play part B, I will have to withdraw. I only have two more days before life drags me away again.  

This was a fun if quick game TJ.  Thank you for running it.

Kas, I hope you have calmed down a bit and I'm sorry to say that this post will likely set you off again but...

Sticks death is purely on Stick.  Sart offered the 'kill everyone' plan to find the Insider, I offered myself to Stick if they couldn't decide who to kill.  Stick chose to have the kill on whomever got the most votes which was the worst choice to make of the three on offer.  There is almost always a last minute flurry of votes at this stage of the game.  We all know this.  Between that and Sticks natural indecisiveness, this result was all but guaranteed.  My own vote, which I had to do due to filter, was on someone without a vote.  That was by choice.  I could've tied it up.  I wanted to tie it up! But I chose to vote on someone else in the hopes to help Stick.  Could I have voted on Neil to make the margin bigger? sure but I didn't want to.  My vote should not be the deciding factor where the elim kill goes.  No vote should!
For whatever reason, the fact is that Stick did not place their order.  Unless they placed it on Drake but that would be even worse than not placing an order at all.
I like Stick.  I love playing with Stick. But their death is their own fault!


Now then, Drake. I do believe it's time for you to die.

I believe I'll vote for RoyalBee.

9 hours ago, Kasimir said:

@Alvron Possible to solicit your general thoughts?

It's always possible.  Am currently working on something but needs to await some clarification from TJ before continuing.  Likely boils down to nothing but one never knows.

Plan 1: Failed. (See below)
Plan 2: On Hold
Plan 3: In progress (See below)

I like Sart's kill everyone plan with one change.  Since we have very little chance of IDing the Insider I feel our best chance is to kill as many as we can until the Contact dies.  Then we exe whichever elim we think is not the Informant and pray to the Gods of Luck and Chance that during all the death we took out the Insider.  It relies a lot on Luck but then I'm always willing to roll the dice.  
Naturally it's very possible that Aman was the Informant and all we are doing is killing ourselves for the elims enjoyment but if so, then well done elims.  An impressive gambit.

3 hours ago, Kasimir said:

[NOTHING] - Alv, JNV, Kas (all presumably not on. Not sure about Alv.)

For the record, I was online and was thoroughly enjoying the chaos.  I was even thinking of voting but Stick said that both Aman and Drake were going to hammer what at the time looked to end up a tie so I decided to let it play out.  Was not disappointed.

1 hour ago, Stick. said:

Ill also NK vote Faerie, but I won’t put it in right now as those votes at locked. Imagine it being there in spirit though. 

I feel that would be a waste.  The Informant knows who the Contact is so if you are as you claim then there is no chance of you hitting the Contact.  Instead you should target someone you think is the Insider as the kill will fail on them allowing us to ID them easier as I'm presuming you will be willing to reveal who you targeted either right before end of cycle or at start of next cycle.
Ignore this.  Informant doesn't know Contacts name (I believe).  There goes a couple of hours of wasted gray matter. So much for Plan 1.

However, should the Informant not know who to target with the NK for fear of hitting the Contact, I offer up myself.  I'm very willing to let my fate be decided on a Coinflip between the Informant and the elim.

31 minutes ago, Faerie Braids said:

Honestly, just a poke. Alv had the most information about their cosmetic role, so they were the easiest to incorporate into my introductory bit of RP.

And I loved it.  While I rarely have time to RP, I do enjoy it when others use my character to advance their own story.

19 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

alright well it looks like it's on me to see the next few steps in this crazy jig

so here they are

 

let's assume I can aim the NK at the Contact and then I win the coin toss and the Contact dies

then what?

 

sure at that point if I got exed I'd likely win, because the Insider can then go ahead and kill Stick with the NK

but people aren't gonna exe me, and the NK is going to always hit outside the doc because ties always favor votes outside the doc

so you'll just keep hitting people outside the doc with both the NK and the exe until the Insider is dead

and then vote me up and the village wins

and there's... not really much I can do about that!

 

so yeah, if we'd won that coin toss and I got exed yesterday, or if we'd actually gotten Stick voted up Aman I'm still judging you so hard for v!reading me most of yesterday smhhhhhhhhhhhhhh (and yes, aman, if you are judging me from beyond the grave for snap voting without seeing the bit about votes being immutable, you absolutely have a right to, but that doesn't stop me from judging you for this we can judge each other ok ), in either of those cases we'd very probably be winning

but in this case, not so much

I suppose you guys could still lose if you keep missing the Insider and it comes down to a 2v1 with me, Stick, and the Insider

you now have 8 chances to swing and miss

try not to mess it up

Except we do not know if we exe the Insider.  The only way for us to know would be to have the NK target the Insider and they not show up in the write up.
So long as the kill is targeting outside the Doc there's a chance for the Insider to be revealed.

7 minutes ago, Stick. said:

That might be a decent plan Alv, but it’s gonna be hard to exe anybody when they are likely somebody else’s claimed Contact

Not really.  For instance we can disregard Drake claiming me as the Contact and anyone you claim as well.  Others will claim randomly and even then there will be some that no one claims.
No matter what, people will vote and someone will be killed.  All I'm trying to do is keep the Insider from having an easy time.  Now if they claim they run the risk of outing themselves for no gain.

8 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

@Alvron, please note that this game has a vote inactivity filter. Please do vote to avoid being replaced. 

Don't you worry TJ.  My no vote was done for a reason.  The reason now being moot thanks to all the end of cycle fun we just had.  But hey, got a tie out of it and didn't have to do anything.


Assuming Aman was telling the truth, (Which I never fully believe) then we can conclude the following:
Drake and Stick are evil
The Informant is now dead (Aman) so they only need to kill the Contact to win.
The Insider knows who the Contact is.

If the Insider reveals themselves and outs who the Contact is, then the Village has no way of surviving.

Since the elims don't know who the Insider is, I feel that for the best chance of the Village to survive a little longer we all need to claim to be the Insider and claim someone else as the Contact.  This will obscure the real Insider should they try and claim.

7 minutes ago, neil the beguiled said:

why does me not knowing alv give me village cred though?

Pure speculation and part ego on my part but I'm fairly sure that if you were evil, your more experienced evil fellows would've said something about me in Doc and you would've asked in there for more information. 

11 hours ago, Stick. said:

Hi Alv :0 

Heya Stick. Nice to see you again.

10 hours ago, Kasimir said:

-Good to see Sarge again  @Alvron

Good to be seen Comrade Kas.

3 hours ago, Kasimir said:

-Someone will be able to read Alv. It won't be me. If he's Village, we struck the jackpot, if he isn't, good luck to us I guess.

Okay then, looks like Kas is evil.  My condolences, I know you dislike being elim.


Vote pattern analysis is going to be interesting this game.  If you are one of the three special roles, you have so many options to choose from to aid or hinder the other side but just as many tripwires waiting.
Does the Informant 'bus' an elim?
Does the Insider only vote for Villagers and claim it's simply bad luck?
Does the Contact vote early in a cycle on those they are told are evil or do they wait and hope someone else does it first?
Do the elims kill one of their own thinking they've IDed the mole? Or do they try and get them voted out?

So many options and so many I can't talk about due to them helping the elims more than the village.  Why must my elim!brain be more active then my village!brain?

1 hour ago, neil the beguiled said:

wait alvron is a real person help- i thought that was a meme or soemthing >.>

Close.  I'm not actually real.  I'm the physical manifestation of scary stories older SEers tell the youngins around a campfire to frighten them and only emerge when I need to claim a fresh soul for sustenance.

1 hour ago, Amanuensis said:

At work rn but very excited hi Alv!

Greetings Aman.  It's been a while since we've played together.

58 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

Alvron?

The one and only.  Any stories you may have heard about me are true.   And the stories you haven't heard about me are also true.

17 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

The man, the myth, and the legend o7

'Tis hard being a legend in ones own time.  Hopefully the rust is only skin deep.

I'll join as Ylath. A somewhat recent transfer from Wyllion.

15 hours ago, Kasimir said:

I didn't do anything about it. You're the one who voted and got me exed for not knowing how to play like a Villager, having come off...let's see, one Evil game, one Good Guy Fain game, and the game where Wyrm viciously stabbed me in the back, none of which are games that taught me how to play Village  I think that's just called 'having a conscience'?  

You didn't need to do anything.  Elan did very well in your stead.

For example:

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Night Six: Begin the trek towards the closest stash I have in the forest.

Your action was successful. You located the stash, which largely appears to have been undisturbed. Though as night fell, a shade was lingering uncomfortably close.
You have gone insane! You cannot take action or vote during this day turn. You will be immune* to insanity through D9.

*swallows hard*
Does the Shade look familiar to me at all?

Vaguely, though it seems to be from a time of life you try to keep not remembering well 

*whimper*

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Night Eight: Sell the loot I acquired and leave town, never to return.

You didn't quite make it out of town before the same shade as before blocked the path forward. It waits, but does not appear enraged.

Since I didn't have any Night actions to do, I decided to RP some and Elan was very accepting and played along fantastically despite the time constraints they had.
Once again Elan.  Thank you very much for indulging me.

This was a very interesting game.
Elandera.  Thank you very much for running it and for being so cool with my RP orders.
Kas, I hate your freaking Shade.  It's still haunting me.
 

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I feel like Unforgettable Horrors just senses Zunn the Mad lurking behind Alv

You're not the only one.  When I first went insane, Zunn immediately rose from the grave.  I'm fairly sure this game is his origin story.
 

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He rolled a me vote twice lol RNG never fails Alv

And I love that evil!Alv and elim!Alv are two different personas

It's not that I distrusted the rolls but Rand wasn't going to change so I had to pick and had to come up with a reason to. If only Rand had joined me instead.  
While similar there are some very key differences so they needed their own personas in my head.
 

1 minute ago, TheAlpha929 said:

@Alvron, you scared the living crem out of me. good job figuring me out perfectly!

The Assembly of Alvs thank you for the kind words.
GM!Alv does think that a Thief and SE on elim team is a bit strong though.
Vig!Alv thinks there should've been more crossbows and he should get 3 of them.

Well played Mat and Alpha.  You got hammered at the start and were always on the back foot but you hung in there and pulled off a fantastic win.

Oh, in that case, sure.

Nah

I hate this stage of the game.  I get too far into my own head and just go round and round and round.

Enter the Head of Alv (if you dare)

Alpha.  With the information I have, you are the best bet.

Sorry Rand but my vote on Mat stands.  Ultimately it comes down to N3.  Until Elan gets back and reveals if the elims can self target it's down to either Mat or Wei.  A 50% shot at an elim.
Another reason why I'm not going to vote Alpha at this point is also covered in N3.  They passed a Mask to Devotary.  If Alpha is evil, why pass a protection item to a confirmed roleblocker that just outed and killed Aman?  Why claim to have that item at all when keeping it secret is much better, especially when they had also just lost Archer who had a protection item.  It makes zero sense from where I would play as an elim.

6 minutes ago, Illwei said:

What was detess donig that absolves them of bring in the n3 pool

DeTess went insane and claims it was from being attacked due to their protection item disappearing.

14 hours ago, Illwei said:

Can i ask why we're not touching Alv?

Because I'm untouchable.   Until I give consent, then I can be touched.  But please, be gentle.

14 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said:

I’d kill Alv I think?

Now that's just mean.  You only think you would kill me?  I would've killed you N1 if I had a crossbow.  (Not because I thought you were suspicious but rather I hate unresolved exes)

6 hours ago, DeTess said:

@Alvron, what are your thoughts?

The elims have taken great care to not have Mat exed the past two days.  Either he's evil or it's a wonderful set-up.  I would rather Mat be taken out this cycle over anyone else.

Theoretically the elims could kill and then get hit by Shade Retaliation leaving it at two a piece.  A tie vote killing an elim then gives the village a chance.  The odds are very unlikely but not impossible.
Of course if they have a SE that hasn't used up their charge then there's almost no chance unless they forget to place orders.
But a chance is a Chance.  And I'm always willing to roll the dice.

Just now, DeTess said:

@Alvron what happened to your vote?

The 20% fail chance hit.

4 minutes ago, TheAlpha929 said:

sorry. I'm about to do the whole "im on a black&white kindle" spiel. so, I'm on a black&white kindle, is the name Mat red or the usual black?

You have Mat in red.