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good call, sorry I either started or contributed heavily to the hijacking Truth is he fits both of these well and could quite reasonably fall into several others (windrunner) which we have ruled out with less then certain reasoning.

just with regard to stonewards being Fighters/warriors....I have to disagree EVERY order of KR is going to be a god on the battlefield worth 10 shard-bearers even a seemingly useless surge ...say healing would augment those around you to a VERY potent force...think 50 elite troops that need to be decapitated in order to die...and know it!

I understand what your getting at and I am aware that "Perception" breaks the cast when compared to the other surges but I also think that is why this surge remains un-named at this stage. Information/Data maybe even Propagation would be better suited to match the other nine surges but dose not give a good one word description of a surge. a quick look through a thesaurus give me these options: Awareness, Recognition, Illumination, Detection,Espial, Revelation..... Again all these words are somehow inappropriate to me in some form though the best fits would be Information or Propagation so far, but I still think perception is the best way to describe how the surge "functions". who knows i'm most likely miles off the mark Edit: without hijacking the thread anyone got other idea's for what the final surge could be?

I would have to agree that Dalinar could easy fall into both Stoneward / Bondsmith and to be 100% honest he could be a Windrunner (Protecting/Leading) as well from what we have read so far but due Kaladin already occupying that slot i'm gonna rule it out with a as being a extreme outside chance. Now my argument/theory for him being a Stoneward hinges Strongly on the last un-named surge being perception rather than communication which I believe is likely for the following reasons. 1)communication is kinda less useful in the presence of transportation as a surge...(A elsecaller could just send you a note/someone with a message) 2) Overall I see perception as being a much more powerful Surge with better synergies compared to communication, Communication is a two way street where as perception would be just Knowing whats happening. eg a battle rages around you, with perception you know your getting flanked through your surge as opposed to with communication someone would have to communicate this too you. I picture this surge working as a function of distance...you "burn" through you stormlight reserve as you "look in" at a location ...the further it is away from you (or the more detailed your focus )the more rapidly your stormlight is consumed. 3) This surge applies to why Dalinar is the one receiving the visions and why he speaks a ancient language during them...the whole vision is coming in said ancient language but his surge is fueling a direct "perception" of what is being communicated. 4) just a worthless gut feeling that this will plug a hole in the ten surges power synergies especially if this surge can be used to directly affect another living being (sharing perceptions). I imagine someone with this surge being able to touch someone and share their perceptions of a area/situation ...say with Elsecaller allowing for long distance transportation and attacks ect. Well I was going to clean this up and take it out of point format but this will have to do for now. Please poke as many holes in this as you can, I have only read TWoK twice and am on my third re-read now so this theory could be full of problems.

This is how I pictured fabrials working, Like a extremely limited surgbinder with binary style input/output. example 1) Would be like a windrunner gravity fabrial but its limitation is you can only do one type of lashing, the most useful i can think of would be one full lashing or maybe a nine tenths lashing directly up ONLY, so you can't "fly" but you could fall from extreme highs or jump 200ft walls ect ect. Example 2) would be the proximity fabrial being a limited version of the communication/perception surge with an actual surgbinder with this surge able to "look in" where ever they please at a whim but the fabral only able to be a fancy tripwire. the difference is a world apart with the perception/communication surge making you a invaluable intelligence and command asset but the fabrial is just a security alarm. Edit; I after looking at the chart provided by the OP I love the idea of Dalinar/stonewards possessing both a communication/perception surge and surface tension, I Imagine extreme durability of making shields/weapons by changing the surface tension of available objects (Air maybe ?) and the ability to command and maneuver a army efficiently with communication/perception. The communication/perception surge is a good offset to their lack of speed as they should have advanced warning of potential threats and just start moving earlier. then there is the ability to make "impenetrable" walls with surface tension and you can probably take you sweet time anyway.

Great Concept for a Thread ok quick response strike team Tom, the Iron Misting + Steel Ferring twinborn = 3 points Will,the Steel Misting + Iron Ferring Twinborn = 3 points Harry, the chromium Misting + Steel Ferring Twinborn = 3 points Jack Cadmium misting =1 point Ok now my hypothesis is that this crew can "fly" on these principles 1)That both Tom and Will are both have attachable steel souls on there boots 2) Will launches himself into the air with a Steel misting push from Toms boots (while storing on iron) 3)Then Taps iron for more weight once he is moving at high speed increasing his momentum 4)Tom Pulls on Wills boots getting him air-born too now he keeps Pulling with iron at a constant rate 5)Will keeps changing his effective weight while "pulsing" away from Toms boots. Now this method should only be needed for High altitude flying for low level stuff you would just simulate the Vin method working as a team. All 4 of em should be able to get into the air by "piggybacking" one other member. Jacks there to "trap" or divide opposing foes for the team Harry is there to destroy other misting metal reserves asap then fight at high speed Tom is able to move at high speeds helping him position well for his iron pulls and avoid his own projectiles Will ...well we all know this guys strengths form alloy of law PS: not sure if I broke physics there but I think that should be possible let me know if i'm wrong, one thing is for sure ..Will and Tom are gonna get a lot of bruises from learning this little trick If i'm wrong about the physics on this then ill just take a chromium compounder, dude can just sit on his butt and compound all day waiting for whatever he is looking for to fall into his lap god knows if I was in the cosmere this is what I would wanna be.

Cheer looks like the 36 number is a fairly loose approximation so i'm gonna just have to take it as it come ...the more the better IMO as long as he doesn't leave any open ends i'm a happy camper .

HI all I have been a longtime Sanderson fan starting as soon as I heard that he would be finishing Wheel of Time so i promptly got Mistborn to check out he style....wow and I have since found his works are by far my favorite fictions, I have (obviously) read all his cosmere works some for the second and third time and through the help of these forums have fit as much of the "known" pieces into place on the cosmere scale. I have already got paperbacks of most of his works (all but Warbreaker) and just recently started ordering signed hardbacks from his website with the intention of getting a full Cosmere hardcover signed set , Now a very important questions for those of you in the know ...I have read here that the cosmere is apparently sitting at a planed 36 books total i'm guessing that's not counting novella like alloy of law or Emperor's soul so i'm assuming that Sanderson's Full epic is looking something like this so far. Stormlight Archive = 10 Mistborn Trilogy = 9 Elantris = 3 Warbreaker = 2 White Sands = ?? Dragonsteel = ?? Now with the "known" totals we at 24 that leaves 12 more books over 2 series ....This to me Feels very odd so if anyone knows if i have made any miss allocations of books in series or if the smaller novellas are going to be part of the 36 can some one let me know. Ps; Hi i'm new