Beligaronia

I want to see Gemmel push Kelsier off a building.

An excellent inquisitor for an excellent season.

An ARC would mean less Cadmium I have to burn to make Alloy of Law come faster.

Probably what started me on fantasy was the Redwall series (although probably what led me to that was the works of Dick-King-Smith but that's not quite Fantasy). I also met and fell in love with the Dragon riders of Pern leading me into the strange world of Science fiction. At this point my course was set, what I read would have Magic or Far off science (or on a good day both). (Despite several well-intentioned english teachers trying to get me to read things about this world.) Redwall remained ensconced as my favourite series for quite some time before finally being displaced in time by a chance introduction to "The Carpet People" by Terry Pratchett. Pratchett has maintained his chokehold on my literary landscape for the past 10 years. At some point in all this Harry Potter caught me but in their turn they were cast by the wayside. (I enjoy the books and occasionally even reread them but still find it more fun to pick holes in them affectionately.) And in no particular order the following authors have been read in their time: Jonathon Stroud (Bartimaeus Trilogy) David Eddings (Belgariad, Mallorean, Elenium and Tamuli) David Weber (Honor Harrington series among others) Brandon Sanderson (You may have heard of him) Mercedes Lackey (Heralds of Valdemar and others) Many many others In summary: Redwall led to Pratchett. Pratchett led to everything else.

If you're logged in then you should have the option of moving a page. Unless we've inadvertently decided to be mean and disabled that for users. Have a look at the top next to the edit button. There should be a tab marked move. I've moved Eshene for you. That way it also creates redirects automaticaly.

Yeah. The wiki was attacked just recently. A bot was replacing with everything with "This page is under construction. Please follow this link." I've fixed the damage so hopefully it's gone for the moment. The Main page is now protected so this should not happen again. The rest of the wiki may not be so lucky. Sorry for the inconvenience.

I would argue that in "Page (subpage)" the "(subpage)" is a continuation of the title and thus is bound by the restrictions of what I will call "title case" (only first words, book titles and proper nouns are capitalised) whereas in the case of Page/subpage, the "subpage" is itself a new title of the subpage and thus should have the first letter capitalised as per "title case". My apologies for my lack of wiki knowledge. Could you give an example of an occasion one would have to use {{lc:}} or ucfirst nested with {{lc:}}. I assume you would use them in some template but fail to see their necessity.

One question. Should subpages have a capital letter or should they be lowercase? My instincts are saying the first letter should be uppercase but then I believe most things should be capitalised. E.g. "Elantris (book)/Summary" vs "Elantris (book)/summary" Also: What should the disambiguation note be for "The Way of Kings" (the in-universe text that Dalinar follows)? Book is already taken, possibly "in-universe text" would be suitable? Are we going to be consistent and move all the books to "Book title (book)" or just those that need disambiguation? (I'm going to say we should be consistent). In the interests of making book linking easier would a link template e.g. {{b|The Way of Kings}} be useful instead of having to type out the full piped linking? "The Stormlight Archive". Should we anticipate an in-universe object and move this to "The Stormlight Archive (series)"? Agreed. Agreed Sure.

There have been some suggestions made to improve and standardise the wiki. These may be found here: http://www.17thshard.com/wiki/The_Coppermind:Suggestions_and_Issues and here: http://www.17thshard.com/wiki/The_Coppermind_talk:Suggestions_and_Issues Anyone with an interest in the wiki should feel free to comment. You don't need to be an editor, so if any of our readers (he says optimistically) has an idea of how they would like the site to look or work feel free to chime in. Also if anyone has anyone has any suggestions beyond those already mentioned they should feel free to mention them. Thank you for your time.

They just recently went to flagged revisions. (Each edit must be approved by a long-standing user.) Before that they just used the almighty power of thousands of wiki-slaves. And a strong blocking policy.

Given the sudden outbreak of spambots on the wiki I would appreciate any suggestions on how to deal with this problem. Obviously one option is just to continue reverting and hope they go away. Another is to have one of the admins block their IP adresses as and when they appear. This is something I would recommend just as a matter of course to any admins who read this. A third that I am not yet recommending is to lock the wiki so only logged in users can edit. Actual contributors without accounts would still be able to create accounts and keep editing but the step of creating accounts may block some of the spambots. Your thoughts? Any other ideas?

I disagree. Light would not be altered unless the allomancer was moving, in which case due to the great speed the light would be blue or red shifted according to the normal laws of physics. However this still depends on the scale factor the metal produces. Working on a hypothetical 10 times faster or slower there would probably be little to no red shifting. Suppose that an Allomancer on a pewter enhanced horse (a Mustang Misting) travels at 10ms^-1. Then the allomancer burns metal slowing time by a factor of 10, the horse is now traveling at 100ms^-1, about the speed of a bullet. (for a large value of -ish.) This is still only a minuscule fraction of light speed so there would very little red/blue shift. (The 10 comes from a desire to keep the misting effective but not at god level.) When passing through the walls of the time bubble there is no change in media, no physical properties that would cause the light to alter. The supposed change in speed would actually be compensated for by the change in time scale. The light would still move at 3*10^8 ms^-1 but the seconds would be shorter from the perspective of the outside world thus there would be no alterations to the properties of the light. Since the observer can only be on one side of the bubble they will see no change in the light since it will, to them, always be travelling at the same speed since they can't see the time shift itself. Then again I may be wrong.

If you have a copy of any of the images, along the sidebar there will be a link labeled Upload file. That'll let you upload from your computer to the wiki. Probably for code you want something like: [[File:File.png|200px|thumb|right]] Which would give you an image at the right of the page. You may need to play with the size till it works with what you want.

If you want to help go for it. Don't worry too much about wikicode, it'll be reasonably easy to codify anything you do after it's there. (For me, since I'm lazy, the hard part is getting it written in the first place.) Basic wikicode can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_markup. If you want anything specific just ask us (we'll be happy to help). To start editing, go to the page you want to change and click edit at the top of the page. this should open up a text box and you can make changes from there. If you want to see how everything looks then click "show preview" before saving.

I am a Recent Changes stalker. This means that I see everything. If a windspren twitches on the wiki, I will know. I noticed about half a day after you did it. And yes, it's funny but maybe not on a wiki. Perhaps move it to "The Coppermind:Ash" or "Ash (meme)" and tag it for in-jokes and silly articles.

Redirects, and lots of them. Seriously though, there is an option in the toolbox of an article called "what links here" (down the left hand side.) you can use that to check which articles link to the improperly named articles and fix them. In my opinion all articles should be at a character's full name unless this is not known or they were referred to by another title in a way that makes their name unhelpful. e.g. lord ruler should be at lord ruler and not rashek (sp?) since that is unhelpful and unknown until the end of the book. Rashek would redirect to Lord Ruler, (possibly a soft redirect to prevent spoilers, once I figure out how to code that). If an article is misnamed either move it yourself or tag it with {{move|new page name}} so that we can discuss it. Anything that is likely to be searched or linked to should be turned into a redirect. My two cents, refunds available.

Other pages that will help us in our quest include: http://www.17thshard.com/wiki/Special:ShortPages Lists pages by length. Anything under about 150 bytes has only one or two sentences and needs work. http://www.17thshard.com/wiki/Category:Stub Pages needing work. Doesn't contain much of anything at the moment but if people create short articles that can be expanded it would be nice if they added {{stub}} to the end of the article which will tag and categorise it. http://www.17thshard.com/wiki/Special:WantedPages Anything that has been linked to but not yet created will appear on this list. Of course it also lists things that have been misspelled or linked to an alternate spelling etc. but everything there needs work. With regards to mis-titled pages pages, ordinary users do have the option to move articles. If you want to move a page it is much easier just to use the move tab at the top of the page, rather than deleting one and copy-pasting. This will move the article, and create the redirect automagically. That also keeps the history of the page intact which will be useful in the future. PS Could you unprotect Ash?

Oops. That was me copy-pasting the book infobox and then failing to proofread. Thanks.

So this did post. I never could find this again. Sure, I'll create it (or you can if you get there first). I am mildly disturbed by the concept of "Spoiler-free" as restricting information. I support the idea of keeping synopses of books to what might be gleaned from the blurbs etc. but in some ways things like the character lists or other links themselves may reveal spoilers. I'm happy to have it for the moment but I think if ever there is a conflict between information on a page and maintaining the spoiler freeness of the page then the spoiler free tag won't know what hit it. Summary: Great for now as long as it doesn't get in the way of good articles (for books at least that should be easyish). (I may have just reiterated your argument. Oops.)

Fair call. As long as you are aware of the potential problem. Which I agree is nowhere near pressing sadly. ;_; I want people on the wiki! But, what do you think?

Ok! Seeing as how I love wikis (and want to put off maths) I have coded up a mock up of what our main page could look like. (This may become important now that we are exposed to the full gaze of the internet.) I would like some feedback. The page is on my talk page (http://www.17thshard.com/wiki/User_talk:Beligaronia.) By the way I know the colour of the header sucks and blends a bit but I couldn't find a nice shade in a hurry and it is such a nice shade of blue I just had to use it. (If anyone feels the same way and wants to keep the blue then I can code the links to show up in another colour.) Ok, your turn to talk. Mine to go do maths. PS To the admin that reads this please go protect the main page! I could be anyone and I could have made this change without consulting anyone. I could also take over the world and install squirrels in every home. I won't, because I'm nice and regard wikis as sacred animals, but (and this is important) not everyone on the internet is as nice as me. PPS Would anyone like a squirrel?

Yup. Saw that. The image field is now uncommented and I've put one up for TWoK. We probably need to cobble together some guidelines for what images we can and can't use. Wikipedia seems to work on the principle that if we have free images then we should/must use that but if not, then a small image of the subject is permissible under fair use. Any thoughts?

Works like a charm. YAY!

We can't use external images unless they're enabled. (Though we can of course link to them) See here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowExternalImages @Chaos: Do you have access to the server/php/whatever you need to make these changes or do I need to consult with KChan or Ryan? PS While this would be nice and would make us look all professional and awesome we can probably do without it for a while.

Thanks for the feedback. I shall change the delete template immediately (I was just choosing colors at random and red was easier to type than hexcode). There is actually an image field coded into the books template but its been commented out since we didn't have any way to upload images. However we can link to images hosted elsewhere I believe (possibly? not quite sure of the code but search wikipedia and it should help.) I don't have time to surf the internet for images right now (I'm supposed to be doing physics) but I'll try and get onto it later. If anyone else wants to do it before I get there feel free. Its a wiki! Be bold! Make changes!