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1 minute ago, Frustration said:

No, I imagine being alive when the other person is dead.

I killed better than they did, and I survived better than they did. And thus, I won.

Whether I succumb to my wounds afterwards is not relevant to me winning or losing.

As others have said. The spirit of the agreement is that one champion comes out alive. Not which dies first. 

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And thus upon the first person breaking the contract the other party is no longer bound.

If they choose to break at the same time then they both broke the contract.

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If there is so much as a Planck instant in which one champion is dead and the other is not the living party wins and the results cannot be altered.

If they both die then neither champion really won. 
 

gotta say you picked a fitting username.

6 minutes ago, Frustration said:

You're using the letter of the agreement, to say that the spirit of the agreement says something?

There are no twists of language that get Odium what he wants.

This is the stupidest argument I’ve seen on this forum. If both champions quite they break the contract. If both die no one wins, contract goes void.

5 minutes ago, Treamayne said:

From the Coppermind and WoB:

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It should.

Easiest way to remember for long-established books is in a Subforum - all unrelated items are tagged (this is Stormlight Archive, so any reference off-Roshar gets a tag).

Gatcha thanks.

2 minutes ago, lacrossedeamon said:

Frost's letter to Hoid

It does require some speculation on what exactly that means. I think Zahel's conversation with Kaladin in RoW also states or at least implies Roshar being one of the older planets in the cosmere.

I’ll have to re-read that soon. Where can that letter be found?

1 minute ago, lacrossedeamon said:

It's implied they existed before the Shattering or at least naturally developed from stuff put in place before the Shattering I believe.

Interesting. Is that stated in any of the books (been a minute since I read them) or Dawnshard? 

Kinda confuses me cause on  

so did Honor and Cultivation create the Dawnsingers or did they naturally develop? I tried looking it up but couldn’t find a thread that even asked that. Do we even know?

Hmmm interesting. Someone needs to ask Sanderson about that during a Q&A.

6 hours ago, Shallan Stormblessed said:

Well, Kaladin couldn't make himself lighter, but in RoW, he uses it to carry Teft for longer than he probably could. (Maybe he could have carried Teft for that long. I don't know. Kaladin's got to have insane stamina, even without Stormlight. He pushes his body to the very limits quite often.)

Hasn’t he made himself lighter before? I thought he did it in WoR just having a slight lashing? 

2 minutes ago, Frustration said:

Stormlight would reset your body so you wouldn't get stronger.

However you could make yourself weigh less while maintaining your strength and oxygen levels so you could run forever.

Yeah that’s what I figured. Would be interesting to have seen something like that if Stormlight didn’t work the way it does. 
 

I haven’t thought of the running forever, that’d be interesting. The whole ability to fly almost makes running useless but it’d be really cool to see a Windrunner use they’re surges for some ridiculous running feats.

So just random thought. 
lets say Stormlight were real in someway or whatever, and a person who ran track or any other sport really were a Windrunner. Would they be able to weigh themselves down to help with strength training or utilize Stormlight in some other way to assist training? Or would them using any Stormlight just heal any part if their body as they tried to build up strength making it a moot point? 

4 minutes ago, Returned said:

I, personally, would prefer to have read it immediately after Hero of Ages. The "spoilers" people are referring to are indeed better after Bands of Mourning, but I don't think they're that much better that it's worth becoming less familiar with the relevant events from the first three books. Even if you do prefer to wait until after HoA you'll get more out of SH if you re-read the original trilogy immediately before anyways.

Cosmere interconnectivity between books being what it is, and the fandom being what it is, there is a real chance that the SH spoiler(s) will be less impactful than they would have been right after SH was published. I wouldn't say that there is a wrong way to read SH though (except maybe before reading era 1, I guess), so I wouldn't worry about it too much no matter what you decide.

That’s what I decided to do. I had bought a copy shortly before posting and was just thinking about it. But then I thought “I’ve read through the entirety of Stormlight before any other cosmere books and had HoA big time spoiled for me before finishing it so what’s the worst that could happen?” 

1 minute ago, StormingTexan said:

I agree with @Frustration above. I think it mainly depends though on how long it will take you to read the first three books of Era 2 though. In my opinion MBSH is better when the events of the original trilogy are fresh in your mind. I had read the original trilogy years before MBSH and I think some of the stuff in it would have landed better if I had read the trilogy more recently. 

I gatcha. I probably won’t be reading era 2 for awhile since I’ve got a lot of books sitting on my shelf to get threw plus I want to read Elantris and Warbreaker before then. I thank y’all for these responses, very helpful.

35 minutes ago, Frustration said:

Brandon recommends reading at least up to Bands of Mourning before reading SH. And I agree.

Thanks. Is it big spoilers or something? 

More specifically, is a person all in the clear to read SH after finishing the first trilogy? I just finished the first trilogy recently and am not quite ready to move on to era 2 so I was curious if SH is alright to read. 

On 1/16/2023 at 8:14 PM, Frustration said:

We know that Renarin is voidbinding.

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Let's talk about Renarin, and Voidbinding. So, with that page we talked about, Renarin Voidbinds. I asked about visions, you pointed to Voidbinding chart, he Voidbinds. Is that using Stormlight to power abilities different from the Surgebindings we've seen?  

Brandon Sanderson

Yes. 

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Is that what voidbinding is? 

Brandon Sanderson

No, but close. You're on the right track. We are gonna get into that, I'm not gonna tell you what the chart means, and things like that. But yeah, something really weird is happening there. 

Footnote: The chart referenced is the back endsheet in The Way of Kings.

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And here I thought that chart was just a fancy surgebinding chart… interesting.

Kal, so I can talk to him about how to better deal with depression, as he seems to be doing better after RoW.

19 minutes ago, duladen said:

It feels clunky, but really won’t affect my enjoyment of the story. Kinda makes sense for Kal and Szeth’s buddy cop adventure in Shinovar.

I was thinking more of Truthwatchers, but that makes more sense with Szeth.

3 hours ago, Stormtide_Leviathan said:

Moash girlies represent!!! 

May God have mercy on you.

1 minute ago, Ookla the Frustrated. said:

She said she wasn't alive at the time, but her Grandmother was.

Should have worded that better. I meant people still being on Ashyn. 

On 12/3/2022 at 3:22 PM, teknopathetic said:

Yes Rabonial was born after the heralds arrived. But since people were and still are alive on Ashyn, maybe Rabonial sent a scientific expedition at some point. 

Where did we get this info?

I’d like to preface this by saying WoR is probably my favorite book in the series (shocking I know) and at present a contender for my favorite book in general. So my suggested thought in no way takes away from my enjoyment from the book. Felt like saying that. Anyway.

So does anyone else think Kaladins third ideal would have been more effective as a ark if done with Amaram instead of Elhokar? I still think it works great with Elhokar but Kaladin reeeally hated Amaram as we know. I feel like it would have been more affective in showing Kaladins growth in wanting to protect all those he can. Just a thought curious what any of y’all have to say about it.

Probably Elend. Haven’t finished HoA but so far he’s probably my favorite despite how much I relate to Vin.

4 hours ago, Ookla the Frustrated. said:

Yeah, Brandon has read the prologue the first chapter and the first two flashbacks, you can find them in the arcanum, if you click discover and go to readings.

Thank you brotha.

On 10/9/2022 at 10:18 PM, Ookla the Frustrated. said:

No its fine.

Do you want to read the sample chapter about him from book 5 Brandon put out?

The whaat?