Darkeye Venev

All shards have an intent, but what does that intent allow/restrict the shard, and to what extent? In Rhythm of War, when Zahel talks to Kaladin after they fight in the Laundry section, Zahel says "The longer one exists, the more... consumed by a singular purpose, our minds bound and chained by our intent." This suggests that the restrictions get more hefty as a entity progresses through time, as we have seen a lot in the first trilogy of Mistborn. But how much do these restrict the entity? Well we know in the beginning, it still restricts some, as Vin finds out after becoming preservation. We see how odium is virtually incapable of other things besides his plan of hate, etc, and that he becomes obsessed with it, which I believe connects to his intent as well.

All shards have an intent, but what does that intent allow/restrict the shard, and to what extent? In Rhythm of War, when Zahel talks to Kaladin after they fight in the Laundry section, Zahel says "The longer one exists, the more... consumed by a singular purpose, our minds bound and chained by our intent." This suggests that the restrictions get more hefty as a entity progresses through time, as we have seen a lot in the first trilogy of Mistborn. But how much do these restrict the entity? Well we know in the beginning, it still restricts some, as Vin finds out after becoming preservation. We see how odium is virtually incapable of other things besides his plan of hate, etc, and that he becomes obsessed with it, which I believe connects to his intent as well.

My personal favorite is Lopen, but I wanted to see what everybody else thought. I did not include Kaladin because i figured lots of people would vote for him and I already knew that.

Shards all have corresponding intents, correct? But, does that nessecarily mean that they have to have one? Well, first of all we know that intent does help bind things. In the coppermind, underneath Honor: Intent, it states "Honor seeks to uphold oaths and agreements, and to bind things together. The Fused consider him to be the god of the natural laws of the universe.[6]" This suggests that yes, the investiture of a shard does need intent to keep it together.

I am officially a lightweaver, and closely followed by a dustbringer. But if i could choose one, I would be a dustbringer willshaper or edgedancer.

So basically the kandra had red eyes, and I was talking to somebody and they mentioned odium and how he and autonomy were working together. So maybe if trell is a avatar of autonomy, then could odium send fused to help trell take over scadrial? If so, it would explain red eyes and the willingness to die.

ferechumist. They are way better and can do so much more.

Shards intent Shards have a core emotion/feeling, or intent, and that affects different things they can do. But, what if that intent was separated from them or their investiture? Certainly this would confuse, disorient, and even harm the vessel mentally, but also make them vulnerable to attack. Pretend for now there is a bundle of pencils with a pen in the middle, held together by a rubber band. The rubber band is the intent, the investiture the pencils, and the vessel the pen. Removing it would scatter the pencils, making it easy to manipulate or break the pen. But let’s also imagine that the whole bundle is in a box, 1ft by 1 by 1. If the rubber band is removed, then the pencils scatter but stay in moderate control of the vessel. Now the question is, is this possible? what I am meaning is that you take away the intent, but with a little bit of investiture atttached so then it becomes a cognitive being, and the shard is now intentless. In reply to spinning sky, I would say that if you somehow canceled out them just right, you could get a a neutral wave. You can do the same with sound, why not investiture, and if investiture, why not intent.

I actually have a different thought path than your guyses. I think that maybe odium stripped the investiture that honor had of its intent, making it weaker and confusing the shard, making it much easier to kill. Just a side thought. An edit: not destroy the intent, just separate it from the investiture, cause I’m pretty sure that it is impossible to destroy intent.

Also, I keep noting thinks next to peoples name such as “Spren” and “steel inquisitor”. What do those mean?

Sweet thanks.

Basically I just joined but have read 95% of Brandon stuff. Who should I talk to to get into better forums and discussions etc.

Even if it’s not, question: is a shards investiture bonded or kept together by its intent or by the vessel, or by something else? Actually, any investiture, but specifically shards. Sorry Mr. Misting. My mistake.